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Silvercreek Farmer
03-03-2019, 06:32 PM
I've got an 8" AR500 steel target hung on chains that rings great. Bought an 18" AR500 (both are 3/8") thinking it would be louder, but it just thudded when hung on chains. Other than the difference in size, the 8" has holes 1/2" or so within the outer diameter. The 18" has "ears" with the mounting holes. I took the 18" down, and experimented with different hanging methods. Any bolt secured tightly in the ears seemed to really dampen the vibration. Ended up hanging it off of one ear, loosely suspended, on a fixed eye bolt. It is better, but still doesn't seem as loud as it should. I didn't have a shepard's hook to try, but I imagine it would allow the gong to vibrate nicely. I was tempted to cut the ears off, and drill a new mounting hole, but drilling AR500 can't be easy, and didn't want to toast the drill bits unless I had at least a little evidence that it would make a difference. Any thoughts?

Bazoo
03-03-2019, 06:47 PM
Hang it from rope instead of chain. I'll require more maintenance but it should ring well. My 2/3 IPSC is on a stand with a carrage bolt that let's it hang loosely. It rings well.

country gent
03-03-2019, 07:02 PM
Hit it with a bigger round. LOL Usually a thud from a gong means it hung to tight or has a crack or inclusion somewhere. To get the clear loud ring it has to vibrate freely. You might try doing away with the bolts and go to replacement chain links instead. Thy tried rubber straps on the clubs gongs and they moved good but the hit was more thud than ring with them.
Our gongs were at 200yds. A hit from centerfire 22s got a wiggle and tink sound. The 30s were better and got more movement along with a light ding sound. My 45 90 with 550 grn bullets they swung to almost the height of the cross bar and sounded like a bell ringing. Especially the big gong. We had a bank of 3 12" 8" and 5". The bigger gongs take a harder hit to ring clearly

WheelgunConvert
03-03-2019, 07:31 PM
Hang a cowbell on the back

Hossfly
03-03-2019, 07:33 PM
Hang from a piece of old fire hose will last longer with hits to hanger and lets vibrate better,

Chainsaw.
03-03-2019, 08:00 PM
Hossfly beat me to it, fire hose is great for hanging gongs, should ring better and it last a good long while. If not, just remember the lighter the touch of what ever is holding it, the better the ring.

Snow ninja
03-03-2019, 08:24 PM
I've gotten good results from some plastic coated wire, maybe 1/8" in diameter. You're done for if you shoot it though...
I'm gonna have to try the firehose.

bmortell
03-03-2019, 09:11 PM
you could take any kind of thin metal sheet and hang them both together with the ar500 one in front and the other sheet behind it and they will slap together when hit, should make a loud sound. or it might not work at all I just made that up in my head lol.

Hogtamer
03-04-2019, 12:23 AM
Those thuds aren't bullets hitting the berm are they? :kidding:

Winger Ed.
03-04-2019, 01:48 AM
Those thuds aren't bullets hitting the berm are they? :kidding:

My Grandmother would say, "Now just tacky, tacky, tacky".

Silvercreek Farmer
03-04-2019, 04:11 PM
Thanks for most of the replies! I'm still a little stuck on the "ears". Anyone shoot targets with ears and without, side by side?

TCFAN
03-04-2019, 05:34 PM
I shoot AR500 steel plates with and without ears and can tell no difference.
This is a 10 inch target with a 3 inch center that swings up when hit and the ring is different depending on which plate is hit

https://i.imgur.com/0QoIwbb.jpg


This plate is 1/4 inch AR500 hung with 1/4 inch rebar. It rings very nice

https://i.imgur.com/kJVwoxu.jpg

Geezer in NH
03-05-2019, 08:59 PM
Heavier bullet , more speed.

rockshooter
03-05-2019, 11:37 PM
I refer the gongs without ears. I do range maintenance at a private range and some turkeys aim at the ears and they break off.
Loren

poppy42
03-06-2019, 12:03 AM
Hang a cowbell on the back

Yah it needs more cow bell:veryconfu

bobthenailer
03-07-2019, 11:13 AM
I use strips of mine convayer belts cut to my needs usually 2 "W X 10"L

jonp
03-09-2019, 06:01 AM
Hang it from a rubber bungee. Buy a bag at Harbor Freight for cheap and replace as needed

jonp
03-09-2019, 06:02 AM
Yah it needs more cow bell:veryconfu


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVsQLlk-T0s

David2011
03-09-2019, 06:20 AM
The best ringing targets I’ve seen were mounted with carriage bolts and used automotive valve springs. The bolt went through the target, the valve spring was next, a large washer, then double nuts tightened against the washer to slightly compress the spring and tightened against each other. The bolt then went through the support and a final nut secured the assembly to the support. The bolts were 3”-4” long x 3/8” diameter.

tommag
03-09-2019, 12:20 PM
I wonder if attaching some sort of resonator to the back would help?

JSnover
03-09-2019, 01:09 PM
I refer the gongs without ears. I do range maintenance at a private range and some turkeys aim at the ears and they break off.
Loren

Paint the ears with a color that blends in with the backstop.

frankenfab
03-09-2019, 01:52 PM
Roll a rim out of 1/4" x 2" flat bar and weld it on the back, to make it shaped like a real "gong".

WebMonkey
03-09-2019, 01:59 PM
Build a cowbell or school bell out of ar500.

Guess you have to build first then temper though.

:)

abunaitoo
03-10-2019, 05:52 PM
How about mounting another plate touching behind it.

Lloyd Smale
03-11-2019, 08:00 AM
that's what I did with one of mine. drilled a 5/8s hole through it and a piece of mild steel about have as thick and put a 5/8s bolt through them both with a few washers to separate them and double nutted the bolt leaving it fairly loose. You could probably do the same by just hanging a chain behind it with a 1/2 of space between them.
you could take any kind of thin metal sheet and hang them both together with the ar500 one in front and the other sheet behind it and they will slap together when hit, should make a loud sound. or it might not work at all I just made that up in my head lol.

kens
03-11-2019, 09:32 AM
that's what I did with one of mine. drilled a 5/8s hole through it and a piece of mild steel about have as thick and put a 5/8s bolt through them both with a few washers to separate them and double nutted the bolt leaving it fairly loose. You could probably do the same by just hanging a chain behind it with a 1/2 of space between them.

What if you got a drummer symbal from a pawn shop and mounted similar???

David2011
03-12-2019, 02:52 AM
Good drummers' cymbals are made of fairly exotic alloys including copper and silver and are basically phosphor bronze. They are also very thin. Most any centerfire would leave holes.

Lloyd Smale
03-12-2019, 07:45 AM
put on the back side they should work fine. IF you steel is tough enough that your not putting holes through it.
What if you got a drummer symbal from a pawn shop and mounted similar???

Petander
03-12-2019, 10:54 AM
What if you got a drummer symbal from a pawn shop and mounted similar???

Bullets will break the cymbal. Why not get a drummer to hit the cymbal?