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historicfirearms
02-05-2019, 08:36 PM
I'm wondering if anyone knows how the Russians or other armies that used the Mosin Nagant uses the safety on the rifle. Did they typically carry the rifle around with a loaded chamber and safety on? Empty chamber and bolt closed, safety off? Just curious on the SOP in military uae.

nicholst55
02-05-2019, 08:59 PM
An interesting question. As difficult as it is to manipulate that safety, that could be challenging while wearing gloves, under fire, etc.

BigAlofPa.
02-05-2019, 09:04 PM
I can't work the safety on mine. Not really worried about it either.

Texas by God
02-05-2019, 09:29 PM
I would not use it. The trigger pull is usually heavier than the rifle.......

Finster101
02-05-2019, 09:32 PM
I think the bolt can be worked much quicker than the safety. The only disadvantage I can see is one less round in the rifle.

GhostHawk
02-05-2019, 10:14 PM
If I was to carry my Mosin afield, it would be round chambered, full magazine, bolt half open. Takes less time to close and lock the bolt than the safety.

Rifle can't go off, bolt is open.

I know I am a little weird, but I prefer the same thing for my Rem 870 Pump defensive shotgun.

I'm not sacrifising a round.
Gun can NOT go off from being dropped.
Its not the full ka-chunk kachunK of the action being cycled.

It is a quiet little "snick" that tells me I'm ready to rock and roll.
And on that gun of course, it has a trigger safety which is also on.
And I have enough hours with it that I could disemble, reassemble, load blindfolded.

Finding the safety in the dark with my trigger finger is childs play.

Ohh and there is one of those super bright lights below the barrel.
That is my preference, YMMV.

WebMonkey
02-05-2019, 10:35 PM
with or without gloves, i can let the pin drop with my thumb on the disk.
so when i get where i'm goin', i can just pull the disk back to cock.
kind of like an ar except it stays back.

so, i have a round chambered and the bolt fully closed, firing pin decocked.

i used to like half cock but my mosin's action is slick and i've ejected the round from gravity and halting limp/shuffle.
;)

Larry Gibson
02-06-2019, 12:33 AM
Russian tactical manuals state "in the assault/attack" the magazine is loaded, chamber is loaded, safety (they call it a "hammer") is off and the bayonet is mounted/fixed.

The Russian manual for the MN gives instruction on how to engage the safety.

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Beeks
02-06-2019, 12:38 AM
All mine are a PITA. I engaged it once, just to say "I did it."

Texas by God
02-06-2019, 01:13 AM
with or without gloves, i can let the pin drop with my thumb on the disk.
so when i get where i'm goin', i can just pull the disk back to cock.
kind of like an ar except it stays back.

so, i have a round chambered and the bolt fully closed, firing pin decocked.

i used to like half cock but my mosin's action is slick and i've ejected the round from gravity and halting limp/shuffle.
;)
Isn't the firing pin resting on the primer in your carry method? Can you fire it with the heel of your hand?

historicfirearms
02-06-2019, 11:27 AM
Larry you are THE man. That's exactly what I have been looking for.
Thanks

WebMonkey
02-06-2019, 12:56 PM
Isn't the firing pin resting on the primer in your carry method? Can you fire it with the heel of your hand?

i probably could whack it with a mallet but whacking with the palm of my hand wont do it.

Smoke4320
02-06-2019, 01:57 PM
Isn't the firing pin resting on the primer in your carry method? Can you fire it with the heel of your hand?

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