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MTyotehunter
02-05-2019, 01:50 AM
It's a pain in my Lee progressive, inconsistent charges and gums stuff up. I would like to burn it up in my handguns if there is a trick to getting corn flakes to flow!

Markopolo
02-05-2019, 02:02 AM
Yes... but there can be only one. The Lyman Gen 6 powder measure... it is a trickle measure that really don’t care what the powder is like.. it trickles it in with almost no variance.. very rarely a tenth of a grain short, but that is very rare. A slight tap and it goes dead on...

rintinglen
02-05-2019, 03:23 AM
A shovel.

dragon813gt
02-05-2019, 06:29 AM
RCBS Chargemaster. It’s not going to work in any volume measure. You have to weigh every charge.

psweigle
02-05-2019, 08:17 AM
Dippers and trickler. Love the stuff, it meters like garbage, but makes awesome ammo.

Boolseye
02-05-2019, 12:37 PM
I use dippers with that stuff.


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baileyboy
02-05-2019, 12:44 PM
The new LEE works with everything.

dragon813gt
02-05-2019, 01:10 PM
The new LEE works with everything.

It’s inconsistent w/ 800X like every other volume measure. It meters like gravel and unfortunately you have to weigh every charge. Completely worth it IMO. It’s my preferred powder for top end 10mm loads.

Markopolo
02-05-2019, 01:30 PM
Time to get an RCBS chargemaster or Lyman Gen 6... I like the Gen6 cuz it takes up way less space on my bench, and under 200 bucks

MT Gianni
02-05-2019, 01:33 PM
Lyman 1200 DPS throws anything. https://www.lymanproducts.com/brands/lyman/scales-measures/gen6-compact-powder-system.html It doesn't show up on the latest product chart but this does.

dbosman
02-05-2019, 10:54 PM
I've not had issues using an RCBS Little Dandy with fixed cavity rotors. But, perhaps because I've turned those rotors several thousand times?

labradigger1
02-05-2019, 11:12 PM
Belding and mull visible measure

Lloyd Smale
02-06-2019, 09:20 AM
yup and 700x too
A shovel.

roysha
02-06-2019, 01:34 PM
Are you folks saying that the fellows using 800X in shotgun loading are weighing each charge? If it meters as poorly as seems to be indicated by the posts here, I'm very surprised it is still produced since the margin for error, pressure wise, with a shotgun is somewhat smaller than with most handguns and rifles. Also, velocity can effect pattern and lead.

cwlongshot
02-06-2019, 02:24 PM
Same here!

The lil dandy is appropriately named.


I've not had issues using an RCBS Little Dandy with fixed cavity rotors. But, perhaps because I've turned those rotors several thousand times?

gwpercle
02-06-2019, 05:14 PM
Lyman 55 measure .
Adjust the three slides to give you one narrow deep cavity . Note , a shallow wide cavity opening doesn't work well .
Operate the 55 in a consistent manner...every time .
This will work with flake powders even Unique .
Gary

MTyotehunter
02-06-2019, 08:56 PM
Appreciate the info gents, I have 4# so I’ll try to get it to burn in something!

Texas by God
02-07-2019, 02:52 PM
My MEC 600 jr. ain't scared of 800X.[emoji16]
But yeah, Lee scoops work great. Slow down and enjoy.

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HangFireW8
02-07-2019, 09:19 PM
700X and 800X meters fine in shotgun quantities above 20 grains! It's the handgun 4-5-6 grain area that is hard.

My Lyman Accu-Measure does fine with either in "the load" quantities (~ 11-13 grains for rifle). Not sure about handgun quantities... I have better powders for that.

Budzilla 19
02-07-2019, 10:40 PM
Load it a lot in shotshells, does the job and has good low chamber pressures. Load it in handgun rounds, and yeah, it meters poorly in some powder measures. ( RCBS Uniflow will meter it, but you have to have patience)But, it is awesome handgun powder!!!! Corn flakes is a good description of this powder!! .45 acp and 700x?? In my opinion only it’s a marriage made in heaven.

corsair_001
02-08-2019, 01:09 AM
"Corn Flakes" LMAO, now that fits 800X. It's a great powder but yep a pain to use. I used in in my 44 for 900fps plinking loads.

Boolseye
02-08-2019, 07:13 AM
800x can get you screaming velocities in the .357 SIG, at safe pressures. It’s also bulky enough to help prevent set-back issues.


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Elkins45
02-08-2019, 10:07 AM
The new LEE works with everything.

Mine locks up tight with a fine ball powder like AA#9.

If I ever break down and buy an electronic powder dispenser it will probably be because of 800-X.

Boolseye
02-12-2019, 05:08 PM
I don’t mind dippering out charges or weighing them individually when I’m loading something like .357 SIG or 10mm auto. For that reason, a classic powder like 800x is still attractive to me. I’m trying to remember whether I had any luck with the Redding and 800x. I don’t think I did, nor in my Lee Perfect Powder. I have a bunch of dippers and I would cut them down to a specific charge. Totally consistent, sure it takes a little more time but I’m not loading for a company. Those rounds are pretty stiff anyway, I only shoot a few at a time.

One of the very first powders I had was a 40 y/o can of 700x. For that reason alone it holds a special place. My Redding can handle that stuff.
-JP

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Pioneer2
02-16-2019, 11:32 AM
MEC 600 JR 28ga

fecmech
02-16-2019, 04:49 PM
Use something that vibrates and tape it to the powder measure

tazman
02-16-2019, 05:04 PM
When I was loading pistol with 800x, I used an RCBS Uniflow measure. When I fill the chamber I would tap the measure a couple of times then dispense the powder.
Worked consistently that way. Even the small loads for 9mm worked well.
At that point in time, I was loading single stage and it wasn't a problem. With faster machines I use powders that flow better through the measures.

OS OK
02-16-2019, 05:09 PM
Use something that vibrates and tape it to the powder measure

That's a dang good idea. I bet it would really narrow the tenth's spread on the large 'corn-flake' powders.

I'm gonna have'ta mull on this idea...thanks.

Treeman
02-19-2019, 01:20 AM
The frustration with 800X seems unending for some. I have not had difficulty metering it with the Lee Auto Disc....but it doesn't meter like ball powder. Develop a consistent rythym. Give a tap to the measure every cycle. Accept that plus or minus 1 tenth of a grain doesn't matter in either safety or accuracy with magnum revolver charges or 10mm auto. (I know that lots of us love precision in reloading but 1- 2% variance in powder charge isn't dangerous and seldom does it affect handgun group size in an appreciable way......and with consistent operation most charges drop "on".)

retread
02-19-2019, 01:53 AM
800-X does pretty well with my Dillon 550 measure. +/_ a tenth in my 44 mag does not bother me. My groups would never show it. Enough "pilot error" to hide that!!

Stuckcase
02-08-2020, 08:46 PM
Agreed with post above. It is my favorite pistol powder but best tool for metering would be a shovel.

1006
02-08-2020, 11:18 PM
I second the Dillon measures +/- close enough for pistols. I used a bunch in my 375 Winchester.

Low Budget Shooter
02-09-2020, 12:23 AM
When I was using up some 800x, I found it would measure pretty well in Lee Pro Auto Disk as long as I stayed above about 5 grains.

slam45
02-09-2020, 09:05 AM
i have no problem with 800X in my dillon 550...

Shawlerbrook
02-09-2020, 10:25 AM
Ditto on the Lyman 55. Adjust like in post #16 and use the knocker.

Shopdog
02-18-2020, 07:26 AM
Will be using 700X in a .45 today,tomorrow,and the next day.....

Throws very nicely out of my Accumeasure's.

kgb
02-20-2020, 08:53 PM
800-X does pretty well with my Dillon 550 measure. +/_ a tenth in my 44 mag does not bother me. My groups would never show it. Enough "pilot error" to hide that!!


Same here, 9gr with a Lee 230gr LFN cast in .41 Magnum.

EMC45
02-26-2020, 11:35 AM
I like both 700 and 800X. Both meter poorly, but if I found some on a deal I would snap it up.