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[zymguy]

I set mine up with one e clip per pin . My first run I’m running 3 cavities with no hp and one with the penta . My alloy is 1 coww: 2 pure led https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190125/26f4d6ee35e32ff2c974079db1faf0e3.jpg


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[brewer12345]

Where do the clips go?

[brewer12345]

Where do the clips go?

[dragon813gt]

You only need one clip per pin. The upper one can be knocked off by the handle. I run different pins only on initial run so I can take weight measurements. After that it’s one style as I’ve had nose fill out issues otherwise. Have the same MP mood but use the NOE version more. It rains bullets while I have intermittent sticking issues w/ the MP. i use the plug pins and know using one of the HP pins would alleviate this issue.

[brewer12345]

You only need one clip per pin. The upper one can be knocked off by the handle. I run different pins only on initial run so I can take weight measurements. After that it’s one style as I’ve had nose fill out issues otherwise. Have the same MP mood but use the NOE version more. It rains bullets while I have intermittent sticking issues w/ the MP. i use the plug pins and know using one of the HP pins would alleviate this issue.

Great, but where do you put the clip?

[dragon813gt]

In the slot on the pin posts.

[brewer12345]

Thanks

[zymguy]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190126/374cb845586d9ad72a33bdd9a41faac3.jpg
Here ya go brewer


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[brewer12345]

Ah, so the clips up ps are the spacers to keep the pins in the right spot.

[dragon813gt]

The clips prevent the pins from essentially falling out of the blocks. They provide a positive stop.

[zymguy]

Ah, so the clips up ps are the spacers to keep the pins in the right spot.

Clips can spin around if they want , they start fairly tight.

Pinsmove however they want when Moulds is open and fit when closed


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[zymguy]

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I ran one penta pin and 3 blanks these are the HP. The powder is smokes clear . The bucket I tumble in used to be for smokes traffic orange that’s why there are orange spots. I’m going to run them through my 358 lee sizer die and put them on some 358 win brass . I’ve got the Lyman cast number four but , what load do you guys like ?


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[zymguy]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190129/9c85f2ed0a758637d723c1d6697ec51a.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190129/d2b7dbd6414e3bf0d9e19134b7f290ed.jpg green ones are the blank pin Eastwood powder mirror green

[Tripplebeards]

I never got a bill for mine yet. When did you get yours?

[zymguy]

I never got a bill for mine yet. When did you get yours?

Send him a message, happend to me once . It was just confusion around my email address. If you were on the list I’m confident your mold is reserved


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[Tripplebeards]

Thanks, what's his username

[Teemu]

Thanks, what's his username

MiHec

[zymguy]

Anyone who got the gas check version want to trade me for some of my plain base boolits ?


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[Tripplebeards]

I just paid my invoice I received a few weeks ago for my GC, hp, 2 cavity, brass mold with all pins, and handles. How long dose it take to get it from the other side of the world?

[Reverend Al]

You've got a hair in with your boolits ... don't load it in one of your .358 Winchester rounds by mistake!

:kidding:


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I ran one penta pin and 3 blanks these are the HP. The powder is smokes clear . The bucket I tumble in used to be for smokes traffic orange that’s why there are orange spots. I’m going to run them through my 358 lee sizer die and put them on some 358 win brass . I’ve got the Lyman cast number four but , what load do you guys like ?


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[Tripplebeards]

My ocd saw that as well. Too long for nose or knuckles...Chest hair reloads. Better on your bullets than my bacon wrapped venison straps.:dung_hits_fan::dung_hits_fan:

[zymguy]

I’ve been shooting these over 13g of 700x (358 win)

What’s everyone else shooting?


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[bluejay75]

14.0 H110 as a solid Seated deep into a 357 magnum case and crimped with a Lee Collet Crimp Die. One of the best shooting loads I have in 357 Magnum. Shoots well in pistol and rifle. I plan on shooting the penta with the same charge.

[zymguy]

14.0 H110 as a solid Seated deep into a 357 magnum case and crimped with a Lee Collet Crimp Die. One of the best shooting loads I have in 357 Magnum. Shoots well in pistol and rifle. I plan on shooting the penta with the same charge.

Well that’s very interesting! What is your COL ?


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[bluejay75]

Well that’s very interesting! What is your COL ?


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Will have to let you know. Usually I set my COAL to my shortest chamber which happens to be the 77/357. I probably have 1500 of these loaded. Handful in a pistol and a killer in a rifle.

[bluejay75]

243702

Ballistic Coefficient makes this shoot really well. If the Full diameter carried all the way to the ogive it would be even more accurate IMO.

[zymguy]

243702

Ballistic Coefficient makes this shoot really well. If the Full diameter carried all the way to the ogive it would be even more accurate IMO.

They look crimped but not rolled or rolled with a flat afterwards. What is that a lee factory crimp die or a taper crimp die ?



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[bluejay75]

Collet crimp die. I wouldnt trust the others to hold it in place given the crimp location. The collet crimp lets you crimp wherever you find a flat spot.

https://ads.midwayusa.com/product/755573/lee-collet-style-crimp-die?utm_medium=shopping&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=Reloading+-+Dies+%26+Shellholders&utm_content=755573&cm_mmc=pf_ci_google-_-Reloading+-+Dies+%26+Shellholders-_-Lee-_-755573&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIruqw_Irv4gIVQ1cNCh3n_weuEAQYASAB EgKPrvD_BwE#

[zymguy]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190619/07aab662ba110e74f6f07005e8adba09.jpg

The top thirty are my go to 700x the bottom 30 are my first try with unique. Middle 40 are really new territory of imr 4227
With a bit of luck I’ll be trying them out at 200 yards tomorrow


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[Tripplebeards]

Keep us posted on the 200 yard grouping. I’m going fire up my pot when my 450 BM group buy mold shows and brake in my .358 group buy mold as well. My plan is to run them in my 35 whelen pushed a little harder if they don’t lead. I’ll be PCing and GCing mine. My plan is to try the penta HP pin with 50/50 ACCOWW and pure with 2% pewter added and work up to 2300/2400 FPS or a little faster...what is the velocity threshold before leading with PC anyways? I know with J words 3000 FPS is obtainable but I don’t want to lead my barrel by pushing my cast too hard.

[zymguy]

Finally got to the 200 yd line today . I shot pretty poorly. My “ groups were similar with both the 700x and the unique. I only shot single digit rounds of the 4227. The point of impact was so much higher the group was confused with the other two so I quit with the faster rounds . I’m going to load the cases I emptyed up with Rx 7 and try all 4 again.

I’m very interested to hear how your 35 Whalen trials go. I’ll caution against chasing speed for speeds sake . As your aware some smart fellers have walked before us. Good luck !


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[Tripplebeards]

I’m not expecting miracles either. What did your 100 yards groups measure before you stretched it out to 200? Never did try my 77/44 groupings past a 100 yards but I did get two different sub MOA loads...It’s the only rifle I’ve spent time with cast so far besides my Ruger American 450 BM. Even though I’d never shoot a deer that far with the 44 mag rifle I’m curious how much the groups will open up.

[zymguy]

The 358 with 13g of 700x shot around an inch . I did not have a rear bag at that time . I think that I was the limiting factor .
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200yd bench


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[McFred]

I played with my MP 358-200.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?394723-200gr-357-Sig-Subsonic

One of these days I'll get around to trying it in a .35 Remington.

[Tripplebeards]

Anyone get a chance to harvest a deer with one last year? Curious how they performed.

[Tripplebeards]

I finally broke my mold in today. I casted up some shiny 16/1 pure lead and Pewter mix. It has a Bh of 7.8. I’ll PC them tomorrow. I’ll end up trying them in my 35 Rems and 35 whelen. The majority dropped at 198 grains. To be precise 6 pounds of the 9.2 pounds came up within 198.0 to 198.9 grains. I ended up with finning around all the HP cavity areas. I can remove the finning with my fingernail easily. Any suggestions on how to keep it from finning? I ran my lee 4/20 at about 8.5 and kept my mold nice and hot. About 3/4’s of the way through my casting the sprue plate was acting like it warped and was not sitting flush. I was getting a thin sheet of lead between the boolit and sprue plate. I kept trying to adjust the plate till it would sit flush. I think it has something to do with the bent looking washer under it.

https://i.imgur.com/eh6Bqrd.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/eklB3rK.jpg

[Tripplebeards]

I figured out if I rubbed the HP tip flat against a piece of paper and rub it back and forth a couple times that the finning comes right off.

Here’s a couple of purple rejects I PC’d. I dropped a few that the alloy was too hot yet and olonged the HP cavity a little. I must have had a couple of boolits hit each other on the way out as you can see a dent on the line groove on the right side boolit. I’m sure it will shoot accurate enough for plinking. I clear PC’d the good ones and PC’d the oblong HP holed boolits blue and purple.

https://i.imgur.com/twfMJCG.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/QF1cDW6.jpg

[Tripplebeards]

I casted up 7.2 pounds of 50/50 pure lead and COWW plus 2% pewter today. I kept my lee 4-20 on 8.5 and I believe it was almost too hot. I had a huge pile of molten crud built up on Top the lead. Very consistent pour! Out of all of the boolits only 37 weighed 196.0 to 196.9 and all the rest 197.0 to 197.9!

I cut my sprues quicker this time and the baes were all flat. I had some lead smear I’ll have to get cleaned off a two little spots I’d lead around my mold halves I’ll have to clean off as well. I love MP molds! This mold is very easy to cast with!

https://i.imgur.com/l4lDjsy.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/2MsACOq.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/cSpqmCM.jpg

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[725]

triplebeards - Wonder if the HP pin is holding the mold open, thus causing the finning?

[Tripplebeards]

Don't know. Not that big of a deal to rub each one a few times on some cardboard to flatten them out. I have to do the same thing with my Lyman Devastator boolits. If I use soft alloy like the 16 to 1 with a 7.8 BH it flattens the finning right out with a flat seater die anyways.

[Tripplebeards]

I got it to feed and cycle right off the bat first measurement try in my Remington 7600 35 Remington loaded at 2.370”. My max OAL was 2.388”. The jury is still out on my 35 Whelen 7600 as it’s back to Remington for j word feeding issues.

https://i.imgur.com/lKy3n5r.jpg

[Tripplebeards]

And here are some I heated and swaged an air soft BB into to aid in feeding

https://i.imgur.com/SlQU34x.jpg

[Tripplebeards]

I shot the top group today with my 336 at 100 yards today. The group was without a BB swaged in...I haven’t tried the swaged BB boolits yet. First time shooting the group buy boolits. I only loaded up nine loads to try with Varget and two different alloys. The top group was shot with a load of 40 grains of Varget with 50/50 pure and COWW plus 2% pewter. The bottom group was shot with a lee 200 grain boolit. My bore slugs at .357” and I sized to .3595”. I had zero leading.





https://i.imgur.com/uv6NGaO.jpg

[Tripplebeards]

I re tested the 40 grain varget load today after I lightened my trigger pull to 2 1/4 pounds. Here is my first 100 yards three shot group today...

https://i.imgur.com/uVbAZ73.jpg

I also had just enough H4895 to load up three rounds so I rolled the dice and decided to load up a max j word book loading to test...

https://i.imgur.com/yby2coi.jpg

[Tripplebeards]

I tried the varget load at 200 yards today. I shot three, three shot groups that averaged 2 & 3/4" groups. I used to big of a target so I didn't aim small and miss small imo. I'll try again when I make some smaller targets and I'm sure I'll tighten up my groups a little. I sighted it an 1" high at 100 yards so I should be 2" low.at 150. My groups were 9" low at 200. I don't have a 200 yard shot anywhere on my property but in sure if I aimed at the top of a deer's back at 200 yards it would be down for the count.

Here’s my sight in picture. Shot number one is where I started. Number two was two clicks right and one up, shot number three was three clicks right and two up(musta flinched), shot four was one up and two right, shot five two more right, and shot six was one more click right. I didn’t shoot again but clicked one down and then shot 200 yards. Maybe my scope wasn’t moving with the clicks? It has 1/4” clicks. I see I was still a about a good click to the left yet after looking at my 100 and 200 yard shot placement when I got home so moved my scope one click to the right again.

https://i.imgur.com/us0XpbH.jpg

The gun is definitely hitting where I’m aiming that’s for sure. My last three shot groups of 1 to 2 clicks to the right each time we’re almost touching and under an inch.lol I Plan was to sight it in 1” high At 100 yards so it will be 2” low at 150 yards which is my farthest spot I can shoot on my property. I plugged in Remington 200 grain core loct data into my hornady drop calculator. The core loct is about identical in velocity to my load. The program said if my 1” high at 100 I’d be -2 at 150, and -9 at 200 yards. There is not a 150 yard target at my range so I figured I’d try the 200 yard target there just for kicks. I made my targets to big so imo I failed at the aim small, miss small philosophy. I made a huge square to aim at. I then measured from the middle of it and made a dot 9” low on the paper. I was just about exactly 9” low and shot a 2 3/4” group my first try. I shot two more 200 yard groups and were pretty close to the same measurements. Even though my crosshairs are pretty thick at this distance and a lighter trigger would help I know I can do still better with the way it’s set up. I’ll make some smaller targets to aim at and re try in the next couple of days.

Here’s my first three shot 200 yard group.

https://i.imgur.com/kwAcv9k.jpg

[zymguy]

Thanks for the update! These were the 50/50 with tin in hollow point?


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[Tripplebeards]

Yes, they have a BH of 10.4 and GC'd. My mix was 50/50 AC coww and pure lead flooring with 2% pewter added to the total weight, I tumble coated Smoke's clear PC and used the round HP pin like the purple ones above. I believe using the Lee collett factory style crimp that other members turned me onto helped with consistency and tight groups. Oh, and sized at .3595" ... my bore slugs at .357".

[Tripplebeards]

triplebeards - Wonder if the HP pin is holding the mold open, thus causing the finning?

I inspected the mold about a month or two ago. I had “tinning” on the mold and pins. It’s all cleaned off now. I’m sure I’ll be good to go till it happens again. I like to run my mold and alloy hot. Around 8.5 on my lee 4/20 pot. Fills the mold in perfectly but I get “ tinning” pretty quick unfortunately. I’ve heat treated the mold a half dozen times and it still doesn’t help. I’m going to oxidize it with salt and vinegar fumes before I use it next time to see if it helps. I polish my pins before use every time and even color them with pencil lead. I have even tried Rockford arsenal release spray in the past and I still get tinning on them.

[Tripplebeards]

Shot my first deer with it the other day at 11 yards. Dropped in its tracks!

https://i.imgur.com/lrtpIk5.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/lFVhOqw.jpg

Loaded at 2100 FPS and 10.4 Bh. That boolit is nasty!

[McFred]

Haha. I think you used "enough gun." You probably could have used a sidearm at 11 yards and saved some meat. :)