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BigAlofPa.
01-20-2019, 07:26 PM
Wondering if keeping some in a plastic Hoppes 9 bottle would be safe for range trips. I had a small glass jar that got broken last outing. Thanks.

Outpost75
01-20-2019, 07:32 PM
Don't know what plastic the Hoppe's bottle is. ER mixed with acetone will eat up HDPE bottles, but PET and PVC bottles are OK.

Hinnerk
01-20-2019, 07:34 PM
It depends upon what you put in your mix and what plastic Hoppe's uses. Look for the triangular symbol on the bottle to see what it is and Google "plastics chemical compatibility chart". I use an old glass Hoppe's bottle.

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crankycalico
01-20-2019, 07:39 PM
In theory if the strongest solvent in your home brew cleaner is say acetone, then the acetone bottle SHOULD be a good thing to use for a short term storage solution.

However a REALLY big glass bottle may be more fun.

Hinnerk
01-20-2019, 07:51 PM
In theory if the strongest solvent in your home brew cleaner is say acetone, then the acetone bottle SHOULD be a good thing to use for a short term storage solution.

However a REALLY big glass bottle may be more fun.Good suggestion. My acetone comes in a can but fingernail polish remover is mostly acetone and usually comes in a plastic bottle so ask your wife for a range bottle.

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jonp
01-20-2019, 07:53 PM
You can get generic acetone finger nail polish at walmart or dollar general for a buck or so. dump it out and refill with ed's. I usually carry either a bottle of Hoppes or a small can of Ballistol.

JBinMN
01-20-2019, 08:45 PM
If ya want you can take a glass bottle like for hoppes#9 and duct tape the bottle all around bottom included & up to the neck where the lid goes on & then put a lint free cotton rag that fits inside the bottle almost stuffed to fill the bottle then fill with Ed's Red, or what ever solvent ya want in it, filled to the top.

even one of those eyedropper glass ones will work in a pinch if ya still have one around.

The lint free cotton rag (old worn & tore up t-shirt should work) will soak up the solvent to reduce spillage, IF you do break the glass & the duct tape will keep the glass in one place so the glass is not shattered all over and help keep leakage to a minimum if there is a crack in the glass.

When it is time to use, you can draw part of the rag out & squeeze/wring it to get the solvent where ya like, & if ya want to soak patches, you can either use the solvent in the bottle that is not absorbed by the rag, or also squeeze/wring out the solvent from the rag onto the patch(es) & then use it to wipe or punch bore, etc...


Just some suggestions for folks if they want to try it & don't have a plastic bottle, but do have a glass one, like the one Hoppes 39 used to come in. I dunno if Hoppes quit using glass bottles or not. I just re-use mine like said above with Ed's Red, although I do not use the acetone due to concerns about plastic parts on some firearms..

G'Luck!
:)

BigAlofPa.
01-20-2019, 08:57 PM
Ok im good according the the chart. The only thing that effects the plastic they use is chlorine.

egg250
01-21-2019, 12:46 AM
HDPE plastic will deteriorate with acetone. LDPE plastic will not. I don't use acetone in my general Ed's Red mix.

Herb in Pa
01-21-2019, 01:30 AM
I believe the only reason for the acetone in the Ed's Red mix is for shotgun cleaning to remove the residue from plastic wads...………….

Tom W.
01-21-2019, 01:54 AM
I bought some bottles from Midway that I use for different cleaning chemicals for my firearms. They weren't expensive, and the chemicals have yet to melt them.....

EDG
01-21-2019, 02:19 AM
A friend of mine gave me a quart of Ed's Red that he mixed in a plastic liquor bottle. That was 15 years ago and the bottle is still intact.
Unfortunately my friend emptied too many liquor bottles and he has been dead 11 years.

JBinMN
01-21-2019, 03:05 AM
A friend of mine gave me a quart of Ed's Red that he mixed in a plastic liquor bottle. That was 15 years ago and the bottle is still intact.
Unfortunately my friend emptied too many liquor bottles and he has been dead 11 years.

While it is sad to hear of the loss of your friend, your mentioning the liquor bottle is a good idea since it appears to have worked well for you.

Now it is time for me, or anyone who might be interested in doing so, to venture out to the local liquor/package store & get one or maybe a few of those little mini bottles of ones favorite adult beverage, (like they used to have on airlines years ago... I have not flown for decades so I do not know if they still have them on planes) empty one, (or more) in an appropriate manner & use them afterwards when empty, filling them with ones favorite solvent, for placing solvent in a portable kit.

Marked for the new contents though , to prevent any accidental imbibing of the solvent.
;)

Solves the OPs situation if the Hoppes # 9 bottle he mentions is unsuitable & certainly is a lot more fun than some of the other solutions posted, including my own...
;)

charlie3tuna
01-21-2019, 05:23 AM
I believe the only reason for the acetone in the Ed's Red mix is for shotgun cleaning to remove the residue from plastic wads...………….

I thought the same thing, until I read Ed's article on it. The acetone is mainly to increase the speed and effectiveness of the mix to remove powder residue. Said it will work as well without it, just slower....charlie

jonp
01-21-2019, 10:44 AM
From time to time I come across large amounts of those glass airline bottles. Is there any interest in them? I never thought anyone would want some. No tops,though but saran wrap and a twist tie would probably work

jonp
01-21-2019, 10:47 AM
I thought the same thing, until I read Ed's article on it. The acetone is mainly to increase the speed and effectiveness of the mix to remove powder residue. Said it will work as well without it, just slower....charlie

my understanding is that is what the acetone is for so i leave it out

JBinMN
01-21-2019, 12:35 PM
From time to time I come across large amounts of those glass airline bottles. Is there any interest in them? I never thought anyone would want some. No tops,though but saran wrap and a twist tie would probably work

The little "mini- bottles' of booze around here are plastic now a days. Have not held a glass one in my hand since I flew domestic many years ago. Kind of cool you still have some available.
;)

redhawk0
01-21-2019, 12:50 PM
I keep mine in a Military cleaning fluid metal can (olive drab). I'd bet you can find them at Army/Navy stores or other places that sell Mil-Surp. I think I got mine from "Cheaper than Dirt" about 25 years ago. I store my ER in a 1 gallon can then transfer 8 oz at a time to the Military metal can.

I'd be real afraid to put it in a liquor bottle....if someone has been drinking enough...even an altered label might not stop someone from accidental ingestion...which would likely cause death. I certainly wouldn't want to be responsible for that.

redhawk

gumbo333
01-21-2019, 04:43 PM
EDG, wasn't Crown Royal in a plastic bottle was it? Maybe McCormick vodka. Extremes of both can be killers.

BigAlofPa.
01-21-2019, 04:48 PM
I have the bottle sitting in a stainless steel dish. It's holding up good. I think im good to go next outing.

kywoodwrkr
01-27-2019, 12:08 PM
Interesting post.
Think I'm going to include some in my shooting box.
Going to buy an all stainless steel hip flask.
Guess I'd better label as shooting product-not for human consumption though.

KCSO
01-27-2019, 01:02 PM
I did some plumbing a while back and now I use an empty pipe cleaner tin for Red's.

BigAlofPa.
01-27-2019, 01:06 PM
Cool ideas above guys. The hoppes bottle is holding up well.

B R Shooter
01-27-2019, 03:12 PM
For what it's worth, I keep bore cleaner in a glass jar. When I get to the range, I pour a small amount in the plastic bottle that has the flip top for squirting, and go about the range time. When finished, I pour it back in the glass.

For jacketed bullets bore solvent has ammonia in it, and if the container isn't air tight, the ammonia will evaporate and does no good. The same should work for ER with acetone.

I use acetone to clean bullet jackets, and keep it in a wide mouth glass jar. I dump jackets in, swirl around then pour out the juice through a strainer into another jar. I noticed the acetone would evaporate over some time, and these jars are I think pickle jars that had a rubber gasket in the lid, but it wasn't air tight. So I use a piece of saran wrap as a gasket, tear off a piece, double it over then place it on the jar top and screw the lid down over the wrap. The acetone never evaporates this way.

webfoot10
01-27-2019, 07:30 PM
Just go on-line or to a gun show and buy some of the metal solvent containers that
come with the russian 91/30 or SKS and AK47 rifles. Cheap and don't leak.
webfoot10

egg250
01-28-2019, 09:06 AM
I believe the only reason for the acetone in the Ed's Red mix is for shotgun cleaning to remove the residue from plastic wads...………….

The acetone also acts as a carrier, allowing the oils to get underneath any metal fouling in the bore. Swab the bore, brush the bore, swab the bore again and let sit for a while. Then brush the bore and repeat. Or you can use a much more effective bore cleaner...

marlinman93
01-31-2019, 11:48 AM
I wouldn't put anything with acetone in the mix into a plastic bottle. Eventually it will melt it's way through the plastic and make a big mess.

Mytmousemalibu
01-31-2019, 07:12 PM
Lab glass bottles are great for Ed's Red

kenton
02-02-2019, 08:56 AM
I wouldn't put anything with acetone in the mix into a plastic bottle. Eventually it will melt it's way through the plastic and make a big mess.

You can buy acetone in plastic bottles. The new 1 gallon acetone jugs at my work are plastic. The trick is figuring out which plastics you can use.

Nueces
02-02-2019, 09:50 AM
Make note of the recycling number found on the bottom of most plastic containers. If you come across acetone in plastic, note the number, google it and find bottles you like with the same number, to insure compatibility.

leebuilder
02-02-2019, 11:48 AM
I use recycled vape juice bottles, had Ed's red in some for years. Some even come with a precision tip.
Be well

WRideout
02-04-2019, 08:35 AM
Good suggestion. My acetone comes in a can but fingernail polish remover is mostly acetone and usually comes in a plastic bottle so ask your wife for a range bottle.

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If you get the polish remover that is non-oily, I believe it is pure acetone.
Wayne

MostlyLeverGuns
02-04-2019, 10:23 AM
There are small metal bottles, some are military surplus, Track of the Wolf has some new fancy ones for the field kit. There is a brass 'one drop' bottle that works well, sealed with a replaceable O-ring. Available at Amazon, Track of the Wolf, Dixie?, some others. I use the aluminum fuel bottles found for the mountaineering stoves to store Ed's Red.

fiberoptik
02-05-2019, 02:18 AM
There are small metal bottles, some are military surplus, Track of the Wolf has some new fancy ones for the field kit. I use the aluminum fuel bottles found for the mountaineering stoves to store Ed's Red.
That’s an excellent idea [emoji362]!



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barrabruce
02-05-2019, 07:10 AM
I’ve got a ss hip flask that I put a o ring in the top and had no troubles for years.
I don’t put acatone in my mix.
Worst is people want a swig or think you have had a few.

fiberoptik
02-06-2019, 01:54 AM
I’ve got a ss hip flask that I put a o ring in the top and had no troubles for years.
I don’t put acatone in my mix.
Worst is people want a swig or think you have had a few.

No! You Can’t drink my Eds Red!


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Geezer in NH
02-12-2019, 07:05 PM
I have always used the acetone containers that came with the acetone and have never had a problem. I use Sea Foam continuers for use.

stinjie
02-12-2019, 10:04 PM
If you attend any gun shows,keep an eye out for someone selling old,empty or near empty ,glass bottles of vintage Hoppes #9. Most folks overlook these old glass bottles. I recently found one at a show for $2.00 ,nearly full.

ulav8r
02-13-2019, 03:42 PM
Use a Budweiser aluminum bottle painted red.