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Hrfunk
01-11-2019, 01:36 PM
Hi all! I finally managed to record a video review of the classic 4" Combat Magnum as devised by the late Bill Jordan. This is part-1 of a 2 parter. Take a look and be sure to let me know what you think!

HRF


https://youtu.be/4QOqOQFK71s

TNsailorman
01-11-2019, 01:58 PM
I did enjoy the Pt. 1 video although you did not tell me anything I did not already know as I have been buying and shooting K frame Smiths since the very early 60's. I also have Bill's book "No Second Place Winner". I would recommend anyone who likes revolvers to get themselves a copy. I am looking forward to the part 2, the range session. james

Hrfunk
01-11-2019, 02:11 PM
I did enjoy the Pt. 1 video although you did not tell me anything I did not already know as I have been buying and shooting K frame Smiths since the very early 60's. I also have Bill's book "No Second Place Winner". I would recommend anyone who likes revolvers to get themselves a copy. I am looking forward to the part 2, the range session. james

Thanks James! I have that book too and I agree anyone who is into defensive shooting should have a copy for the historical value if nothing else. I also really like the chapter where he relates some of his personal stories and experiences as a law enforcement officer.

Folks our age who have been into shooting and firearms for a while are probably not going to learn a lot from my video. I tend to make these for the youngsters who may never have heard of Bill Jordan or the Combat Magnum. Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment!

Howard

El Bibliotecario
01-11-2019, 02:26 PM
... I tend to make these for the youngsters who may never have heard of Bill Jordan or the Combat Magnum...

The problem is that most such folks think, "Who would want an old fashioned revolver? Why, it's not even made of plastic--it might rust!"

Hrfunk
01-11-2019, 02:38 PM
The problem is that most such folks think, "Who would want an old fashioned revolver? Why, it's not even made of plastic--it might rust!"


THAT is why I do the live-fire portion of the videos on the range. I'm no Jerry Miculek, but it might surprise some of the plastic-pistol generation to see what the old wheelguns are capable of!

Howard

TNsailorman
01-11-2019, 02:51 PM
Hr, You did a great service for the future generation. I do not have an ax to grind about the modern days police weapons. They will do the job. But I shoot mostly double action and there is just something about the revolvers that no semi-auto can replace for me. The old Smiths were very smooth and I still prefer them. I only have one semi-auto right now and it is a Ruger .22lr. I would encourage any of the younger generation to own at least one of the older Smith or even Colt revolvers. The Rugers are very good also and are built like tanks. They just might decide that they have been missing something. Take care, james

wgg
01-11-2019, 06:05 PM
I just lucked into a model 19 2 1/2" rb. I have been shooting it getting ready to qualify with and carry on duty and off. When I started I was issued a model 28 Smith. Shooting the 19 brings a smile to my face. Old school cool.

TNsailorman
01-11-2019, 06:28 PM
wgg, good luck on your quals.. You could definitely carry worse. Round butt or square on that little jewel? I have and carry often a 3" .38 Special K frame. james

jonp
01-11-2019, 06:29 PM
Good, general video of a classic revolver. I liked it and not just because I have one upstairs next to my bed.
Yada, Yada...Plastic pistols..capacity...blah blah. I have several and I like them but something about a classic revolver in my hand just makes me feel better. Just feels "right" as I'm sure most on this forum know what I'm getting at. As wgg said, I just smile when I shoot one.

Well done and thanks for the info on the SW Mag. I never knew they put one out !

Hickok
01-11-2019, 06:46 PM
HR, I have watched your videos and thoroughly enjoy them. Keep up the good work! (Just subscribed!)

I bought my S&W model 19 with 4" barrel many years ago. In a little gun and pawn shop where a police officer had traded the Model 19 on the latest hi-cap 9mm as was the trend years back. The revolver looked like new, only wear was on the right wood grip panel. (From bumping into things while in a holster.)

Store owner sold it to me for $200. I was grinning from ear to ear. Still have it, will never sell it.

TNsailorman
01-11-2019, 06:55 PM
That was $200.00 well spent. If you run into another one anywhere near that price, give me a yell down here in the East Tennessee mountains. james

wgg
01-11-2019, 06:57 PM
TNSailorman, mine is a round but, first one I have ever had. I will schedule a range trip next week, looking for a way to carry speed loaders on a 1 3/4" belt.

TNsailorman
01-11-2019, 07:13 PM
Funny thing about that, a round butt feels better in my hand but I shoot just a tad better with a square butt--go figure. I carried my 2 speed loaders in belt pouches just in front of the holster so that when my right hand came down from the revolver to the holster ( which is a natural motion for me), and as the back of the hand touched the front of the holster, the loader were right there and I just rolled the hand to the left and a loader was right there is my hand. It sounds a lot more complicated than it really is and it is a natural motion, especially after a little practice. After a few times, it becomes so natural that you don't even have to take your eyes off a target. I will be glad to share what I know with you thru an email if you are interested. I developed this actually in competition and used it in my carry mode from then on.

Hrfunk
01-11-2019, 08:49 PM
I just lucked into a model 19 2 1/2" rb. I have been shooting it getting ready to qualify with and carry on duty and off. When I started I was issued a model 28 Smith. Shooting the 19 brings a smile to my face. Old school cool.

Old-school cool for sure. I have one too and I love it. Good luck!

Howard

Hrfunk
01-11-2019, 08:50 PM
Good, general video of a classic revolver. I liked it and not just because I have one upstairs next to my bed.
Yada, Yada...Plastic pistols..capacity...blah blah. I have several and I like them but something about a classic revolver in my hand just makes me feel better. Just feels "right" as I'm sure most on this forum know what I'm getting at. As wgg said, I just smile when I shoot one.

Well done and thanks for the info on the SW Mag. I never knew they put one out !

You're welcome! Thanks for watching!

Howard

Hrfunk
01-11-2019, 08:51 PM
HR, I have watched your videos and thoroughly enjoy them. Keep up the good work! (Just subscribed!)

I bought my S&W model 19 with 4" barrel many years ago. In a little gun and pawn shop where a police officer had traded the Model 19 on the latest hi-cap 9mm as was the trend years back. The revolver looked like new, only wear was on the right wood grip panel. (From bumping into things while in a holster.)

Store owner sold it to me for $200. I was grinning from ear to ear. Still have it, will never sell it.


Thanks for the sub! Enjoy that fine revolver.

Howard

Texas by God
01-11-2019, 09:37 PM
I'd drive 200 miles to pay 200 dollars for one like that any day!

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FergusonTO35
01-11-2019, 10:34 PM
Hmm, think I'll give my 10-5 some exercise tomorrow!!

Hrfunk
01-12-2019, 09:23 AM
OK Fellas! The sun is rising in the East. So long as the weather cooperates today, I'll be off to the range to record part-2!

Howard

Petrol & Powder
01-12-2019, 09:35 AM
Thanks for sharing.

I have a some bottom feeders made of steel, aluminum and even plastic but the DA revolver chambered in 38/357 holds a special place in my heart.

Thumbcocker
01-12-2019, 09:42 AM
I really enjoy your videos. Keep up the good work. BTW Mrs. Thumbcocker's personal revolver is a pinned and recessed model 19, she will never part with it.

Hrfunk
01-12-2019, 10:59 PM
I really enjoy your videos. Keep up the good work. BTW Mrs. Thumbcocker's personal revolver is a pinned and recessed model 19, she will never part with it.

Thank you! I managed to get part 2 recorded today, even though a snow storm moved in half way through my shooting. I should have it posted by tomorrow.



Howard

Hrfunk
01-13-2019, 10:43 AM
Here ya go fellas! Part-2 is now up and I hope you all enjoy it (I even managed to sneak in a few cast boolits for ya'll!)

Howard


https://youtu.be/RPeWvPAD15k

TNsailorman
01-13-2019, 11:51 AM
That was what I have been waiting on Howard. Thanks and well done. james

Hrfunk
01-13-2019, 12:00 PM
That was what I have been waiting on Howard. Thanks and well done. james

Thank you James! I'm glad you like it.

Howard

Hrfunk
01-13-2019, 02:18 PM
Anyone know how to edit the title of my thread so I can note Part-2 is up?

Howard

jonp
01-13-2019, 03:56 PM
OK Fellas! The sun is rising in the East. So long as the weather cooperates today, I'll be off to the range to record part-2!

Howard

Great! I subscribed to your channel after watching a couple of other video's of yours. Thanks for showing the proper way to react to a misfire. I'm thinking you may have seated the primers too deep.

Do you remember what your reloads were in regards to powder? You demonstrate the reason DA revolvers like the SW19 still have a place in this era of plastic double stacks. Misfire, just keep pulling the trigger.

Hrfunk
01-13-2019, 09:08 PM
Great! I subscribed to your channel after watching a couple of other video's of yours. Thanks for showing the proper way to react to a misfire. I'm thinking you may have seated the primers too deep.

Do you remember what your reloads were in regards to powder? You demonstrate the reason DA revolvers like the SW19 still have a place in this era of plastic double stacks. Misfire, just keep pulling the trigger.


Hi Jon! Thanks for the sub! The .357 load I was using in the video consists of a 158 grain Remington SJHP in front of 16.0 grains of H110. It’s a great general purpose full-power load.

Howard

ReloaderFred
01-13-2019, 10:05 PM
I carried a 6" Model 19 as my duty gun from 1971 to 1980, when I changed to my Model 57 as my duty gun. Both were carried in a Hoyt High Rise Front Break holster, which is probably one of the finest duty holsters ever made, but unfortunately, the company is now out of business.

My dept. issued the 4" Model 19-4 as a duty weapon for many years, and I purchased one of the un-issued revolvers upon my retirement (along with a couple of the un-issued Model 59's). I've also got a 2 1/2" Model 19, a 2 1/2" Model 66 and a 4" Model 66, which are the stainless steel versions of the Model 19. As far as I'm concerned, the K-frame was one of S&W's finest products, but I still prefer my Model 57 for serious work.

Hope this helps.

Fred

PS: HR, I fixed your title for you. If you want it changed to something else, PM me and I'll take care of it for you.

Hrfunk
01-14-2019, 09:05 AM
I carried a 6" Model 19 as my duty gun from 1971 to 1980, when I changed to my Model 57 as my duty gun. Both were carried in a Hoyt High Rise Front Break holster, which is probably one of the finest duty holsters ever made, but unfortunately, the company is now out of business.

My dept. issued the 4" Model 19-4 as a duty weapon for many years, and I purchased one of the un-issued revolvers upon my retirement (along with a couple of the un-issued Model 59's). I've also got a 2 1/2" Model 19, a 2 1/2" Model 66 and a 4" Model 66, which are the stainless steel versions of the Model 19. As far as I'm concerned, the K-frame was one of S&W's finest products, but I still prefer my Model 57 for serious work.

Hope this helps.

Fred

PS: HR, I fixed your title for you. If you want it changed to something else, PM me and I'll take care of it for you.

My first Chief carried a Model 59. He was a great guy. Working for him was a little like what you would expect if you were working for your grandfather. He's now in a nursing home, and he has alzheimer's. I visited him a while back, and he still thought he was my Chief and I was one of his officers. I think I actually enjoyed the conversation. I wish I had a 59 to commemorate him.

Howard

P.S. Thanks for fixing my title!

Hickok
01-14-2019, 10:43 AM
I was really enjoying watching this video.

Having shot some of the 125 gr .357 magnums rounds that are legendary man stoppers, I always thought if these loads didn't drop a bad guy, the muzzle blast and concussion would surely stun him!

I mostly use and shoot 158 gr to 180 gr in my .357's, and leave the 125gr for defense rounds.

Hrfunk
01-14-2019, 11:19 AM
I was really enjoying watching this video.

Having shot some of the 125 gr .357 magnums rounds that are legendary man stoppers, I always thought if these loads didn't drop a bad guy, the muzzle blast and concussion would surely stun him!

I mostly use and shoot 158 gr to 180 gr in my .357's, and leave the 125gr for defense rounds.

That's a sound practice. When I carry a .357 for defensive use, it's normally my 3" M66. In that one, I prefer the Remington 125 grain Golden Sabers. The 125 gr. GS is a mid-range .357 load with power right between a .38 +P and a full-power 357. It's controllable and still quite effective. For all other .357 Magnum applications, I prefer a 158 grain (or heavier) bullet.

Howard