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Drm50
01-07-2019, 06:33 PM
Did a little shooting Saturday. Me and Bro had three 9mm pistols. He had just picked up a nice S&W m39 and wanted to try it out. We don't load 9mm but have standard ammo for each gun.
We had a mixture of factory ammo and I had a box of Herters 9mm that came on a trade with a
P-38. Anyway we were shooting the 39, a Browning HP and a Kimber Solo. We had Win, Rem, Fed and Browning besides the Herters. We never buy Herters so we decided to shoot that box up to
see what the 39 would do. We had duds, ones that went of on second try, jams on every other one
and each one sounded different. Some were so weak you could see them bounce when they hit the
plates. Also they were dirtiest ammo I have ever shot in anything. They preformed same in all 3 pistols. A side note is the Browning ammo although it shot fine did not function well in the Solo.

oldhenry
01-07-2019, 07:06 PM
I may regret posing this comment (my ignorance may be revealed): however, I was under the impression that Herters went out of business long ago. I still have a 1970 Herters catalog.

Since I'm under this assumption, I'd think that ammo must be quite old.

I may be wrong.....I often am.

Henry

BigAlofPa.
01-07-2019, 07:09 PM
Cabelas sells Herters brand.

oldhenry
01-08-2019, 07:29 PM
Cabelas sells Herters brand.

As predicted.........my ignorance has been revealed.

CraigOK
01-08-2019, 08:31 PM
As predicted.........my ignorance has been revealed.

There's nothing wrong with ignorance, especially not when coupled with humility like it was. But now you know :)

Rainier
01-08-2019, 08:40 PM
That stuff is horrible rubbish! I was given a gift card to Cabela’s a few years ago and bought some of the Herters branded 9mm - mistake! It wouldn’t consistently fire in a Kimber Solo, Kahr pm9, Browning Highpower, CZ 75 or a Glock 19. Like the OP reported, “…duds, ones that went off on second try, jams on every other one and each one sounded different.” my exact experience. I still have a handful around - they're great for immediate action drills 🙄

Orchard6
01-09-2019, 12:05 PM
I’ve ran a few boxes of their FMJ 357 mag thru my Blackhawk and found it to be very accurate and reliable. For $25 a box I was impressed! I guess I got lucky or your unlucky!

frkelly74
01-09-2019, 12:34 PM
I have found Herters labeled brass laying around and it seems to work like other brass. It has looked like it ran fine, no duds or evidence of multiple strikes.

JonB_in_Glencoe
01-09-2019, 01:10 PM
FYI, Cabela's contract's their Herters 9mm with Sellier & Bellot

https://www.cabelas.com/product/HERTERS-SELECT-GRADE-HANDGUN-AMMUNITION/2136644.uts

JonB_in_Glencoe
01-09-2019, 01:13 PM
Also of note, from American hunter

https://www.americanhunter.org/articles/2013/10/9/herters-select-grade-ammo/


Herter's Select Grade Ammo

Cabela’s chose operations in the Czech Republic, Italy and Russia to load rifle, handgun and shotgun ammunition to its specifications. And the Herter’s Select Grade line was born.

Rainier
01-09-2019, 07:21 PM
Hmmm... Here's a picture of the garbage I was sold...
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RU shooter
01-09-2019, 08:00 PM
Looks just like Russian Wolf brand steel cased ammo?

rking22
01-09-2019, 08:20 PM
Glad I read this. Their 16ga ammo is better than decent, and frequently on sale. Have had good experience with 5 flats of 16ga. I had been considering trying the 9mm and 40, thanks for posting your experience.

ioon44
01-10-2019, 09:49 AM
Herters labeled brass is one of the head stamps that I cull to the scrap bucket when I sort range brass. I don't like the way is reloads compared to U.S. brands of brass.

Electric88
01-10-2019, 10:00 AM
I think the only steel case Herters I've shot was through an old Mosin, and I don't remember any problems with it.

I've shot plenty of the brass cased blue box herters through various 9mm firearms, as well as some 45 acp, 40, and 357 mag. None of it was exceptionally dirty or inaccurate. In fact, for cheap shoot-em-ups it was actually pretty good. Just my two cents.

Texas by God
01-10-2019, 11:21 AM
I have seen several flavors of Herter's 9 mm ammo. The steel case comes from Russia, the brass case comes from Czechoslovakia, and the aluminum case from CCI Speer.

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salvadore
01-10-2019, 11:45 PM
I have a bunch of Herters 30 carbine, I'm thinkinf Tula steel case. Anyway, at the range shooting 50yd 1.5" groups. My reloads show the same accuracy. I also have Herters steelcased 62 gr. hollow points but have never grouped.