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lar45
01-07-2019, 03:26 PM
https://shopkahrfirearmsgroup.com/blog/magnum-research-introduces-500-linebaugh-bfr/?mc_cid=e325aaf0e1&mc_eid=8a72b69f44

They do this just after my long wait time for a 500 Linebaugh from Mr. Linebaugh.

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LIMPINGJ
01-07-2019, 03:38 PM
I know how you feel, wanted a 500 but they didn’t chamber for it last year so went with the 475.

mattw
01-07-2019, 04:39 PM
I just cannot imagine doing that to my hand... I have tried several SA revolvers over the years and that grip and grip angle just kills me. OTOH, I love shooting my Desert Eagle .41 mag.

MT Chambers
01-07-2019, 04:59 PM
Certainly lots of hype, but I believe that the Freedom Arms revolvers are nicer, and I believe that the .500 smif is a bigger round.

megasupermagnum
01-07-2019, 07:18 PM
I just cannot imagine doing that to my hand... I have tried several SA revolvers over the years and that grip and grip angle just kills me. OTOH, I love shooting my Desert Eagle .41 mag.

I agree 100%, and it's such a shame. MRI could design any grip frame they want, but they choose to offer plain old single action grips. On a gun with no ties to any other, it's not ideal for fast shooting, or competition. Why not put a set of grips on that allow you to target shoot or hunt 2 handed from a rest better. I have not been able to ever shoot a BFR, but what you get is phenomenal. Mechanically the BFR is capable of being every bit as accurate as a Freedom Arms. For half the price, all you are giving up is some spit shine. I really hope MRI comes up with a double action some day.

lar45
01-07-2019, 08:08 PM
If they are going to do a .510 , I wonder if they would build a 50-70 on a long frame?

Whiterabbit
01-07-2019, 08:17 PM
It's been 14 months in the pipeline.

Some of us were calling monthly about it. at times, weekly, depending on their response. (almost here, almost here, almost here....)

Dpmsman
01-07-2019, 08:25 PM
I agree 100%, and it's such a shame. MRI could design any grip frame they want, but they choose to offer plain old single action grips. On a gun with no ties to any other, it's not ideal for fast shooting, or competition. Why not put a set of grips on that allow you to target shoot or hunt 2 handed from a rest better. I have not been able to ever shoot a BFR, but what you get is phenomenal. Mechanically the BFR is capable of being every bit as accurate as a Freedom Arms. For half the price, all you are giving up is some spit shine. I really hope MRI comes up with a double action some day.

Actually they do offer a Bisley grip. Here is a picture of my JRH..233537

megasupermagnum
01-07-2019, 08:38 PM
I've never tried a bisley grip in any form. I still don't see what it has over a double action grip. It just seems odd to me that all single action grips are a smooth contour, while many double action grips are shaped like a persons hand.

dubber123
01-08-2019, 01:51 AM
One of the 5.5" models would be a nice package. With a little tinkering, BFRs are a pretty nice revolver. Have they ditched the cheesy plastic/rubber grips, or are they still standard?

Dpmsman
01-08-2019, 12:50 PM
One of the 5.5" models would be a nice package. With a little tinkering, BFRs are a pretty nice revolver. Have they ditched the cheesy plastic/rubber grips, or are they still standard?

They replace the grips on the standard model with something that looks like a Hogue. I can’t say for sure that it is a Hogue but it sure looks like there style.

Arkansas Paul
01-08-2019, 06:30 PM
Certainly lots of hype, but I believe that the Freedom Arms revolvers are nicer

They are nicer. But are they twice as nice? Because they're tipically about twice the price.


I've never tried a bisley grip in any form. I still don't see what it has over a double action grip.

If you've never tried it, you wouldn't see it.
And if you do try it, you may not still. It's just personal preference.

Texas by God
01-09-2019, 09:23 AM
.500" is the maximum diameter allowed for a cartridge handgun per NFA regulations.

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jmort
01-09-2019, 10:13 AM
I am still liking the BFR 500 JRH

str8wal
01-09-2019, 10:37 AM
https://shopkahrfirearmsgroup.com/blog/magnum-research-introduces-500-linebaugh-bfr/?mc_cid=e325aaf0e1&mc_eid=8a72b69f44

They do this just after my long wait time for a 500 Linebaugh from Mr. Linebaugh.

233530

But your's is much better.

TNsailorman
01-09-2019, 11:50 AM
I never owned a .357 maximum but like others I read the horror stories that went around the shooting community a few short years after it introduction. In theory, I really like the idea for shooting steel at extended arranges or for a hunting cartridge that would launch heavier bullets out to hunting ranges and shoot fairly flat doing it. I am sure that with todays engineering talent available and improved steels in handguns, a solution to the problems could be worked out. However, the sports magazines have poisoned the water, so to speak, and I don't see a company willing to spend a couple million dollars correcting the problems that existed. It would be an uphill climb even if it did become successful and few companies can afford to take a chance on an "iffy" product. Maybe Wesson, who seemed to have got it right the first time around, will re-introduce their excellent version. my .02 anyway, james

historicfirearms
01-09-2019, 07:42 PM
So is their 500 linebaugh built on the long frame or the short frame? I just can't get over the cartoon like proportions of the long framed revolver like they use for the 45-70 guns.

bosterr
01-09-2019, 09:06 PM
Short frame.

lar45
01-09-2019, 11:27 PM
.500" is the maximum diameter allowed for a cartridge handgun per NFA regulations.

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Actually, the law reads to not have a "Bore Diameter" larger than 1/2" Not shoot a bullet larger than 1/2" . So look at the definition of Bore and groove measurements. The Bore diameter is measured from the inside of the lands. Now Add .005" deep grooves and you can shoot .510" bullets, but the "bore diameter" is still only 1/2" .500"

https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2011/3/15/terminology-bore-diametergroove-diameter/


Here's the definition, right out of the NRA Firearms Sourcebook. It is “...the minor interior diameter of a barrel that is the diameter of a circle formed by the tops of the lands.” That is the bore diameter, but groove diameter is “...the diameter of a circle circumscribed by the bottom of the grooves...”

The 50AE got mixed up in this lack of understanding the proper terminology.
when it was first conceived, it was supposed to be a straight walled case shooting a .510" bullet. But who ever was in charge of making the decision at the ATF made them change it to shoot a .500" bullet before they would allow the Desert Eagle 50AE to be imported into the US.

lar45
01-09-2019, 11:57 PM
I am still liking the BFR 500 JRH

The 500JRH can be loaded to much higher pressures than the 500 Linebaugh. The Linebaugh is limited to around 35,000 psi, while the JRH can be loaded up to 50,000psi. The JRH can launch 400gn bullets to nearly 1600fps, while the Linebaugh tops out around 1450fps.

http://www.lsstuff.com/pics/500jrh/500jrh-04.jpg

http://www.lsstuff.com/pics/500jrh/500jrh-07.jpg

http://www.lsstuff.com/pics/500jrh/500jrh-11.jpg

lar45
01-10-2019, 12:39 AM
Found this picture
http://www.lsstuff.com/pics/500jrh/bore-groove.jpg

obssd1958
01-10-2019, 01:03 AM
lar45,
Your links aren't showing up.

Whiterabbit
01-10-2019, 01:30 AM
I've never tried a bisley grip in any form. I still don't see what it has over a double action grip. It just seems odd to me that all single action grips are a smooth contour, while many double action grips are shaped like a persons hand.

This is exactly how I felt when I was first getting into revolvers. Single actions ugly, the DA grip better, faster loading, etc.

Then I shot a bunch and realized the truth. That single actions are far superior to DA revolvers. They got the ergonomics right back in the day, and that's why there's no need to improve them now with radical changes. There's nothing to improve. It's all incremental changes now that make things better.

BUT

If your opinion really stands as is, no problem! Hogue makes a rubber grip you can put on any Ruger or BFR that makes the grip the same as the standard molded DA grips you see on some revolvers. It works just fine. Even if the traditional SA grip is better :)

Whiterabbit
01-10-2019, 01:34 AM
true story:

buddy of mine shot my BFR in 460 (this is more than 5 years ago) with the original plasticy panels and loved it. One day, I put on the Hogue grip and gave it a go for a few years. Buddy shot it, hated it so much that he never shot the BFR again. I suppose I could get him to shoot it and like it agian, the hogue is off for good.