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Black Powder Bill
12-09-2018, 03:01 PM
Nice old rifle in 222 rolls in Friday. Customer attempted a timney trigger swap out.

And he broke the hinge? For lack of a proper name. That holds the trigger in place via a pin.
So is this soldered in?
Thanks Bill

country gent
12-09-2018, 04:01 PM
It may be soldered in what does it look like here inside the action? Soldered in a complete new one can be made and soldered in. if its machined on then cut off flat justbelow bottom of the hole make a new end and tig weld it on. Leave end proud all around so after welding it can be cleaned up and new hole drilled

Black Powder Bill
12-09-2018, 04:51 PM
Nothing on the inside. It does appear to have a hint of solder around the base.

Making a new one is in the plan. Thought I might lucky and.find the actual part. HA yea

I'll find out tomorrow

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Mk42gunner
12-09-2018, 04:52 PM
Words fail me...

That is someone that needs to be slapped if they even glance at a screwdriver.

Robert

Black Powder Bill
12-09-2018, 05:12 PM
Words fail me...

That is someone that needs to be slapped if they even glance at a screwdriver.

RobertOh it's a weekly event. Here ya go! Short BBL 45-70 rolling block tang sight attempt. The holes are 3x the size of the screw.

I've screwed a few things up in my day. But Man SMH https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181209/a4dbe4a9312a7680548c7443922dfe0c.jpg

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HangFireW8
12-09-2018, 05:13 PM
Wow. I'm a 788 aficionado, and I've never seen that failure before, or even heard of it.

Black Powder Bill
12-09-2018, 05:16 PM
Oh man , I was like WOW A 222 !!

A little penetration oil goes a long way.


Wow. I'm a 788 aficionado, and I've never seen that failure before, or even heard of it.

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Texas by God
12-09-2018, 06:38 PM
An angel cries when a 788 is hurt.

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KCSO
12-09-2018, 06:59 PM
You need to have it tiged and reshape and dril it to do it right. Heat sink around it and you will be good to go. That has to be solid!!! as if it lets go when the rifle is loaded boom.

James Wisner
12-09-2018, 09:21 PM
The trigger stud is copper brazed in place.
Look at the slot the trigger lays in, they milled it first, then put the stud in place.

Person tried to hammer the cross pin in place with the tension screw in the up position, this is even covered in Timney's instructions.

A new stub will have to be made and silver soldered in place. Take care to measure things before working on the stud as the hole needs to be in the correct location otherwise the bolt stop will not work properly.

JW

Black Powder Bill
12-09-2018, 09:26 PM
Mucho Thanks JW!

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John Taylor
12-09-2018, 10:54 PM
another option would be to drill and tap the frame and make a screw in stud.

Texas by God
12-09-2018, 11:04 PM
I never felt the need to replace a 788's trigger. The worst I had from 7 of them was 5# that felt lighter because of the crisp let off. We used trigger shoes back then also.

Oily
12-10-2018, 12:49 AM
Oh how I wish I had the 788's I traded or sold back in the 80's. Not trying to hijack the thread but I have had 5 788's and have not encountered or heard of this bubba problem. I have replaced triggers in 788's for several people and it is straightforward when you follow the directions. And as TEXAS said I have never had a 788 that the trigger was needing to be replaced. Some have been heavier than others but clean and crisp. Sometimes I prefer a little heavier trigger pull on a light rifle where I can settle in to the stock and control my breathing. Thank the Lord that I still have the 788 in 6MM with the long barrel that someone tried to glass bed and did a horrible job and ruined the accuracy of this fine rifle. New stock new rifle.

CASTER OF LEAD
12-10-2018, 04:11 AM
An angel cries when a 788 is hurt.

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I gotta agree!!! All of my 788's are treated like they are a priceless collectables!!! Some people have no business trying to do their own smithing.

Rich/WIS
12-10-2018, 12:55 PM
Years ago bought a 788 carbine really cheap that had that problem, Modified a clamp to hold it in place and welded it on. Worked fine but did replace the factory spring with one from erniethegunsmith which did wonders for the pull. Had hoped it would be a nice light rifle but was heavier than I expected so sold it off. Shot cast really well.

wmitty
12-13-2018, 07:11 PM
Isn't the sear spring also the trigger return spring on the 788's factory trigger? Seems like I remember a modification where that spring is shortened and a separate return spring and screw is installed.

Black Powder Bill
12-14-2018, 06:39 PM
I had a 788 once ,never paid attention to trigger as it worked.

I have no idea about the original trigger it was not given to us. It's in line to be worked on.
After I clean up a tang and install 2 threaded bushings for a sad attempt at a tang sight install.





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merlin101
12-14-2018, 07:16 PM
I had a 788 once ,never paid attention to trigger as it worked.

I have no idea about the original trigger it was not given to us. It's in line to be worked on.
After I clean up a tang and install 2 threaded bushings for a sad attempt at a tang sight install.





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I was wondering how you where going to fix that, lotta work for a dumb mistake! Did they say how they did that?

Texas by God
12-14-2018, 07:32 PM
Merlin101 it appears they went "oil patch" on that one! The tang sight base needs to be long and wide:-)

Black Powder Bill
12-14-2018, 07:51 PM
Merlin, I wasn't there when it came in. It will be an expensive mistake.
Gonna try to make a new piece.

YouTube mistakes making me $ .



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Black Powder Bill
12-14-2018, 08:27 PM
Oh the tang sight isn't the correct one. The rifle is a short barrel, like maybe 24" rolling block with factory front sight.



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leadman
12-28-2018, 11:33 PM
Not to gloat, but I will. I bought a left hand 788 in 308 Winchester about a year ago!! Had one just after I got out of the Army in the late 70s and traded it off later. Finally fixed that mistake.

Both of those jobs would have cost the owners much less if they had had a 'smith do them for them. Good luck on the repairs and hope the customers appreciate your work.

Black Powder Bill
12-29-2018, 02:18 PM
Not to gloat, but I will. I bought a left hand 788 in 308 Winchester about a year ago!! Had one just after I got out of the Army in the late 70s and traded it off later. Finally fixed that mistake.

Both of those jobs would have cost the owners much less if they had had a 'smith do them for them. Good luck on the repairs and hope the customers appreciate your work.Thank you!

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GregLaROCHE
12-29-2018, 03:20 PM
I have a 788 in 6mm Rem, that has the best trigger I have ever used. Someone put some work into it before I got it. I keep meaning to get my son to turn loose of it one day, so I can shoot it again. Got to reload these days. Not easy to find ammo for sale for it.

Black Powder Bill
12-30-2018, 12:08 PM
I have a 788 in 6mm Rem, that has the best trigger I have ever used. Someone put some work into it before I got it. I keep meaning to get my son to turn loose of it one day, so I can shoot it again. Got to reload these days. Not easy to find ammo for sale for it.

He didn't give us the old trigger just the new Timney & a chewed up bent pin

Gaseous Maximus
12-31-2018, 07:59 PM
Isn't the sear spring also the trigger return spring on the 788's factory trigger? Seems like I remember a modification where that spring is shortened and a separate return spring and screw is installed. Yes it is. And there was a mod. that did that and also made the trigger fully adj., sear eng. pull wt. and over travel. It worked, and I wish I still had that rifle. I do, I think, still have the plans around here somewhere.