factory ammo

[white eagle]

I just bought a new rifle and wanted to use it this season on a late doe hunt we have coming
so I bought two boxes of 30-06 Remington 150 gr coreloct
now I haven't bought any ammo for any gun for so long I can't even tell ya when the last time was
two boxes each had one fail to fire (well so far still have some left in box 2)
this is exactly why I don't buy from anyone's factory :-(

[northmn]

I have had problems with Remington and misfires in 22's but not so much centerfire. I have been using Hornady LE's and Full Boar with no problem. I have also had some batches of primers give me misfires on reloads.

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[Walks]

I had a bad primer with Federal Factory TrapLoads fail to go off in a Registered ATA shoot when I was a teenager. Frazzled me so much I blew that round and so a 75 straight. Was Top Junior on Sat. Sun when that misfire occurred I finished last. Haven't trusted factory ammo since.

[white eagle]

my son says I should contact Remington and tell them what happened
would you do that or let it go
I know that the primer charge was yellow not the reddish color of the normal 9.5 large rifle primers
can't see any difference on the exterior of the primer

[bosterr]

Shoot up that junk, save the brass and load your own.

[Mk42gunner]

I can't remember the last time I had a factory centerfire rifle round misfire. Rimfire yes, surplus yes, factory new no.

If it was just one round, I would be inclined to ignore it; but since you had at least one round from two different twenty round boxes misfire, I would contact Remington with the lot number and where you bought it.

Oh yeah, don't try to shoot the rest of it until you hear back from Remington.

Robert

[georgerkahn]

I am sorry for your failures! Few things can be so troublesome as hearing a click instead of a bang -- but, I believe we all can be thankful you were not in a self-defense situation when you found some to be duds. If it was me, I'd both eMail Remington, and telephone them. You can add a photo of the box -- with code number -- to your email; and, have number ready with your call. I'd be surprised if Remington would not wish to learn of the failure to fire.
Of course, questions re YOUR firearm will arise: Is it in 100% working order, with factory firing pin or striker extension upon firing; is the hammer spring sufficient; is your chamber clean; and similar questions of which, obviously, they have zero idea of. And, I'd not at all be surprised if they've received myriads of reports from Bubba-the-gunsmith after his (or her) improved firearm also had failures ;).
Then... there's the statutes/laws: In the state I reside in, only ftf transactions with ammunition is legal; I truly do not know if, say, it was me I could post the bad rounds -- but definitely know I could not legally receive replacements.
I once had two cans of sauerkraut explode in my kitchen cabinet -- you have NO idea re the smell or the mess -- and upon sending photos and a letter to the manufacturer....(drum roll here)... I got a coupon good for two replacement cans of the same product. (I passed...)
Again, try the eMail and 'phone call -- and again, glad you didn't find the failure in a self-defense paradigm, as well as there being no injuries. (In kind of a sick sort of way, a non-firing cartridge, imho, sure beats one which instead explodes the firearm...)
geo

[JoeJames]

I had a case split on a Winchester 303 round. I contacted Winchester, and then per instructions mailed the remaining rounds back to them, and got a $50 Winchester gift certificate.

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[JSnover]

What George said. Let them know about the misfires and thoroughly clean and inspect your rifle.

[white eagle]

this rifle is brand new
I shot 15 of my handloads prior to this happening
without a hitch
I even rechambered the round to try a second time
but got the same results

[JBinMN]

If you were "in the business" & they were rounds YOU loaded, & then were sold to someone else, and they had this trouble... would you not want to know about it.
;)

"Contact Remington about it", would be what I suggest.
;)

G'Luck!
:)

BTW... Please share here if ya do contact them. I'd bet I am not the only one who would like to know how you get treated.
;)

[charlie b]

I guess I am the exception. I have never had a factory round fail to fire. Cannot even remember a military round fail to fire that was the ammo's fault (plenty were due to the firearm). Well, there was a tank round (105mm) that failed to fire. It was an old lot of ammo and made me nervous cause it was a live HEP round (we had one of those explode as it left the barrel).

I have had several bad primers in the past year. Remington and Federal. Before this year I cannot remember having a bad primer in reloads in the past 40 years.

If you have the packaging send the end flap (with the lot no) and round back to remington. They can at least use it to evaluate their production processes.

[country gent]

Contact Remington, Simply explain what happened describe equipment and give ammos lot numbers from end flap of boxes. Be courteous and polite in e-mail ( remember your doing them the favor informing them of a QG issue). I had a problem years ago with some primers manufacturer sent me the QC info and a case of free primers. A couple 45 acp duds from a case (in a ispc match. No flash holes in 2 cases) the manufacturer sent me 2 cases of the same load. The only feed back thy get after its shipped is from the people using it and its important to them.

[lefty o]

they all make a bad one now and then, but remingturd has about the lowest QC of em all. i just plain and simply will not waste money on their ammo.

[Hossfly]

I would at least e mail them with the lot no. So they can gather info on maybe a potential larger problem.

[Texas by God]

I had a case split on a Winchester 303 round. I contacted Winchester, and then per instructions mailed the remaining rounds back to them, and got a $50 Winchester gift certificate.

231468

^^^^do this. Tell them it cost you the biggest buck in the county.;-)

[northmn]

The thing about handload vs factory. Who makes the primers? I have had more misfires with handloads. Sometimes its the technique which I had to change and once in a while a bad batch of primers.


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[mold maker]

The only FTF I have had, factory or reloads, were expected.
I don't even look at the store shelves now except for 22s.

[dverna]

A bad primer is going to happen even if you reload. Nothing made is this world is perfect.

[ubetcha]

I had 5 fail to fire out of a box of 20 Federal American Eagle brown box 223 rem. Hadn't bought factory ammo for many years, except I purchased a Savage Axis XP and wanted to set some type of base line to compare handloads.

[white eagle]

well rem wants em back to analyze the remaining rounds
I also included the primer that didn't go boom

[MyFlatline]

I just bought a new rifle and wanted to use it this season on a late doe hunt we have coming
so I bought two boxes of 30-06 Remington 150 gr coreloct
now I haven't bought any ammo for any gun for so long I can't even tell ya when the last time was
two boxes each had one fail to fire (well so far still have some left in box 2)
this is exactly why I don't buy from anyone's factory :-(

I was called a liar over on Marlin Owners for saying almost the same thing. How Ironic..

[Maineboy]

Many years ago, probably in the mid to late 80s, I was given a box of Remington 30-06 220 grain round nose bullets that had been returned to a big box store. If I remember correctly, there were about 15 intact rounds in the box and one of the cartridges had a dented primer. Not having much use for a 220 grain bullet I put the box aside and forgot about it. Rediscovering it one day, I took it to the range, planning to fire them off and salvage the brass. None of the rounds in the box fired. My thinking then is that somehow the rounds got contaminated, probably by the original purchaser but I really don't know. I have heard that spraying WD40 or other penetrating fluids around the primer area of a cartridge can contaminate the primer. I did pull the bullets from the remaining cartridges and carefully deprimed them.

[Eddie2002]

I had a box of Federal ammo in 30-06 that had about half of the rounds split at the neck when fired. I was still young and dumb at the time and didn't think much of it. Looking back I should of contacted Federal instead I stopped buying Federal ammo and started reloading.

[Shopdog]

I'll occasionally snag a cpl boxes of factory if for instance the dealer makes me a deal and how charitable the feeling twds the store.Small,non corporate gunshops.

However,most of those get the JB's yanked,going straight to cast. Least ways,I'm fireforming pretty dang quick. Give the pulled JB's to the kids.

Never had a factory rifle CF cartridge ftf,have had factory handgun do it,along with maybe a dz primers in handloads over the last 40+ years.

[white eagle]

I was called a liar over on Marlin Owners for saying almost the same thing. How Ironic..

not saying most of em don't know jack
but it happens
first time for me and I have been hunting a long,long time

[500Linebaughbuck]

you mean that the factory "loads" ammunition? well, i'll be!!!!


i haven't shot factory for about 25-30 years.

[toallmy]

I was standing beside a fellow one day while he was trying out his new savage m 110 in 270 Winchester and when he fired we heard a muffled bang . When he was going to chamber another round I stopped him ... store bought Winchester factory from K Mart a jacketed bullet a couple inches in the bore . It can and does happen !

[tazman]

I once had a Winchester White Box 9mm that failed to fire. The primer was nicely dented and I had never had an issue with that gun failing to fire.
When I got home, I took the bullet out and dumped the powder. Guess what, no primer flash hole.
I only had that happen the one time though. I have fired a bunch of factory 9mm while breaking in and testing handguns just to set a standard and see what they will do.

[northmn]

I go back to what I mentioned earlier. I have had good luck with Hornady and Federal. A WW case split on me this year while sighting in and I had to push it out with a 35 cal. bore brush. Never have trusted Remington's all that much. Had a 270 that patterned Remington's but grouped Federals so tight handloading could only equal them. I have also had handloads misfire and had a couple of bad batches of primer. Most of the time factory loads have worked. I have shot a lot of handloads also.


An individual on the Marlin site mentioned that he pilled some bullets out of a box of Remingtons and the powder charges were pretty inconsistent. He did not mention how much they varied. I have a box of Hornady's that handloading would probably just equal in accuracy for the 6.5 Creedmoor. Or to put it another way, they are accurate enough such that anything better is nit picking. I think it is a brand thing as both Federal and Hornady depend on their reputation as ammo makers.


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[charlie b]

When I want to know how well my handloads are doing I buy a box of Federal Gold Medal Match.

[white eagle]

I sent the remaining box in to them and included 1 primer that I pulled from the guilty culprit
they sent me another box of ammo not that I want their ammo now or ever

[crankycalico]

every company does bad ammo. What you should really be doing is when you go to the ammo store, look at how many boxes have been opened and tapped back shut.

At my local dunhams its very common to find boxes on the shelf that have ammunition missing, or the wrong stuff in it.

I have had perfecta .223 that would not chamber due to deformed necks

I have had Federal American eagle that would not work due to primers not going off after being ejected and reinserted into the chamber 3 or 4 times.

I have had American eagle black box that also was deformed in ways that allowed the case head to be 1/16 to deep inside the chamber when chambered.

Simply don't use what fails on ya.

[9.3X62AL]

I cannot recall being present for a factory round failing to fire from a firearm in good order. Granted, I fire very few factory rounds these days, but I was present for hundreds of thousands of rounds being fired every year from 1983-2004 by my deputies, and when a misfire occurred it was invariably due to out-of-battery condition or mechanical fault. Ammo was 98% Winchester, small bit of Federal and Remington. It just doesn't fail very much.

I have had a few of my reloads fail to fire, and when I disassembled the fault rounds the primer was distorted during seating (and not noted during processing) or in a couple instances the primer cup contained no fuel.

Maybe I have had inordinatedly good luck with my hobby stuff and work tools.

[charlie b]

I have had the same good luck with factory ammo, including my time in the military. And up until this year have never had a bad primer in a reload. This year I have had three bad primers.

I do have to say that I have experienced two 'misfires' with military ammo, but, it was 105mm tank ammunition :) And, it was ammo that was old stock we were shooting in training (one round had to be chambered by kicking it with my boot). That was back in the late 70's.

[white eagle]

I have never had a handloaded round not fire in any of my guns
just lucky I guess

[Lloyd Smale]

I handload. that's obvious because im here. that said ive boughten many boxes of corelock ammo for different guns and never had one not go off. My guess is its more likely a gun problem then an ammo problem. Ive loaded 10s or even 100s of thousands of rounds of ammo and the only bad primers ive seen were from some 30 year old ww white box primers that were stored in a damp basement for those 30 years to the point there was mold on the cartons and even then it was only about one primer per brick. The other was was some wolf large pistol primers I bought a case of and about every pack had a primer or two that didn't even have an anvil. Only other primer related failures to fire ive seen are using hard primers in a tuned DA gun with a light hammer fall. Im not a big fan of Remington primers but its mostly because they rarely make the most accurate loads in my guns. But ive yet to have one that didn't go bang. Ive got one rifle I don't load much for. A 6mm rem classic that has been passed around to different members of the family and used as a loner gun. I don't load for it because it shoots 100 grain corelocks into an inch and corelocks are cheap to buy and mostly because I didn't want to load for every relative that used it. I know that gun has shot at least a 100 boxes of corelocks through the years and never once has it failed to fire.

[MUSTANG]

I am finding what seems to be "Quite a Bit" of ammunition of all calibers with a primer indention but "Fail to Fire" in the trash/on the ground at the ranges I use over the last year. For ones in same caliber as my rifles; I have cleaned and attempted to fire, most it seems primers were dead as they did not fire in my firearms (tends to point to ammunition and indicates there was NOT a problem with the original firearm that attempted to fire the ammunition.

I am also having problems with "Failure to Fire" using Remington 9 ½ Large Rifle Primers (Experiencing about 1 dead primer in 200; or a ½ of 1% failure). Bought several thousands of these about 2 years ago and am slowly depleting them from my stores.

I have NEVER had a failure to fire in primers from CCI. Lots in my stores, so I will go back to them after I deplete the Remington 9 ½ Large Rifle Primers I still have on hand.

[white eagle]

no its definitely Remington ammo problem it's junk
as with most of Remington's newer endeavors they fail
quality and consistency are not in their vocabulary
I doubt any new out of the box Winchester bolt action
could aspire to be as a colossal failure as new Remington products

[No_1_U_Know]

I've had cartridges split, but none ever failed to fire.