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Johnch
12-02-2018, 02:45 AM
Friday I took Dad out to hunt deer
He had his knee replaced just over 2 weeks ago and can walk
But not the 3/4 mile to the creek or the 1/2 mile to the woods

So I rigged up a seat on a deer cart and pulled it SLOWLY behind the ATV

We headed out right after lunch
So we got the the "Chicken Coop" about 1 PM... a real chicken coop we took back to the creek from behind the old barn 30 or so years back
I rebuilt it into a nice deer blind 10 or so years back ... Dry with 1 or 2 open windows on all 4 sides

I parked next to the door , so a short easy walk for dad
I got dad into it and was getting everything set
When he poked me and pointed to 2 does walking right down the lane to us
He already took a buck and I still had not shot a deer , so we were legal
Also Dad and my brother was looking to take a few does to help control the population ... LOL I didn't care , I get free land owners tags

I handed dad my Marlin 44 mag with a pretty soft lead 260 gr powder coated GC , Flat nose cast bullet .... sort of a Lee 310 gr bullet but the nose and body shortened
Don't remember the charge .... the load is in my load notes , but loaded with 2400

I had my Marlin 45/70 with a NOE 460 405 Gr RF GC bullet Powder coated ...Nose is pure lead and the body is a hard alloy
Pushed by Reloaders 10 ... about 1500 fps

We waited till they were about 50 yards out and I softly said ready ??
He cocked the rifle and said on 3

I was shooting out of one window and he was shooting out of another
He softly counted 1,2 and 3 ... BOOM

We both shot our deer through the lungs

His turned and headed to the woods , but only went 30 or so yards before going down
Mine kept going along the lane , but after 20 or so yards turned into a blackberry patch
She went maybe 10 more feet before running into a clump of brush and falling over

I helped Dad out of the chicken coop so he could sit on the deer cart

We watched the deer for 5 or so min as we filled out the info onto our home made deer tags
I walked up to dad's deer and checked to be sure it was dead and tied the tag on her leg
I then walked to my deer and checker her , tied the tag on
I then got dad back on the deer cart , unloaded the rifles and took him home

Mom gave us a strange look as I dropped dad off before heading back to get the deer

I used a rope to pull my deer out of the blackberry patch
Lifted her onto the cart and drove over to dad's doe and added her on top of mine

Total amount I had to by hand drag either deer was maybe 5 feet

I took them to the barn
We then called in to check our deer in

It took longer to take dad down to the creek than the time we took on the Deer hunt part

I skinned the deer , boned them out and washed the meat off
Then cleaned up the mess

I put the tubs of meat in my 2 frig's and ground most of it after I got back from duck hunting this morning

Part I will keep
The rest will go to several retired people that are friends

Oh , since I cleaned and boned them out
I had a good chance to look how the bullets did

Neither bullet was recovered
Both of us shot almost the exact same area through the lungs
Both the 44 mag bullet and the 45/70 bullet did a great job
IMO after the deer were gutted , it would of been hard to tell witch deer was shot with the .430 or .460 cast flat nose
Just ribs were hit , so no big bones were hit and very little meat had to be thrown away

John

rodwha
12-02-2018, 03:18 AM
Nice story

slim1836
12-02-2018, 05:30 AM
Father and son hunting together, just doesn't get better than that. The deer were icing to the cake.

Slim

Jal5
12-02-2018, 06:17 AM
Great story! What a memory.

s mac
12-02-2018, 07:58 AM
Great story, good eating. My hunting buddy and I have pulled that off a few times on wild turkeys I call it a double.

sharps4590
12-02-2018, 08:11 AM
Well done John and good on you!!! As with many on here I miss my Dad and wish my sons lived closer.

redhawk0
12-02-2018, 10:02 AM
Wonderful...I hope to be able to do the same tomorrow with my dad. He's almost 79 and can't get out without help. A few years ago he shot a deer and went down on the ground to clean it but realized he couldn't get back up. It was the first time I saw my dad tear up with the reality of aging.

So...I have an agreement with him....if he's willing to still be my hunting partner...I'll take him, track, clean, and drag anything he shoots. I'm looking forward to just being out with him starting tomorrow.

redhawk

rodwha
12-02-2018, 01:26 PM
Nice agreement!

ShooterAZ
12-02-2018, 01:35 PM
Thanks for sharing, a great story and great hunt. Congrats to you both.

beechbum444
12-02-2018, 01:38 PM
I like the idea of two alloys in one boolit.... soft nose hard body .... what's the trick to making that ....

BNE
12-02-2018, 02:17 PM
Good for you. Great story.

DeputyDuke
12-02-2018, 02:51 PM
I enjoyed reading that, thanks.
Duke

Texas by God
12-02-2018, 02:55 PM
Great hunt, well told. Slap Pop gently on the back for me!

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skeettx
12-02-2018, 02:57 PM
Well done, and THANK YOU for taking care of Dad,
seems less important to many these days.

TheGrimReaper
12-02-2018, 04:29 PM
Good memories for you both.

Johnch
12-02-2018, 09:57 PM
I like the idea of two alloys in one boolit.... soft nose hard body .... what's the trick to making that ....

Really simple
Cut off the base of the bullet that you want to be hard lead
Twist a steel or copper wire around the extractor grove of a 380 auto case and make a handle out of it ( Old primer left in ), a 32 auto case for smaller sized bullets
Melt the "Nose" you want to be soft lead and pour it into the 380 Auto case and let it cool

File off the excess brass case and melt the lead back out

When you cast with that mold
Use 2 lead pots , 1 of soft lead and another of a harder alloy

Dip out a case of soft lead and pour it into each cavity
Give that lead a chance to get mostly solid , but not hard
Then top off the cavities with the hard alloy
The "Hard" alloy will melt into the soft lead and bond the 2 alloys
But sort and look at each bullet
As sometimes the 2 alloys will not bond right
Normally if that happens , you need to pour the hard alloy a few seconds sooner
So that the soft lead is hotter

The time you wait depends on how hot the lead is and how fast the bullets you cast in that mold take to harden

These bullets will look different , as the soft lead and the hard alloy will have slightly different colors

Oh making these bullets takes 2 - 3 times longer than with just 1 alloy
As there is a fair amount of time extra needed to pour in the soft lead and wait for it to cool some
So I only cast the 2 alloy bullets for hunting , not target bullets

John

Iowa Fox
12-02-2018, 10:39 PM
Great story. Proud of you for taking good care of your Pop.

brown bass hunter
12-02-2018, 11:36 PM
Great story....memories!

500Linebaughbuck
12-02-2018, 11:38 PM
nice story!!!