powder coated gould boolit gets a buck

[jwhite]

I have been experimenting with powder coating bullets and decided to try a few gould bullets i had kicking around for the 45-70, found they shot great with 50grs of 3031 in my old Marlin. Headed out for a walk and found a fresh scrape and some decent tracks so started after him, finally got up with him around noontime and got a brief opportunity for a shot so took it. Deer took off and I saw steam going out the side so knew it was a good shot. 230879230880230881230882

[43PU]

DANG!! That thing could eat a Ky deer!

[Wolfer]

It could eat southern mo deer and need a snack afterwards.

[white eagle]

Wow what a buck
Ol 45-70 gets it done nice

[Hossfly]

Wow in Louisiana that size deer would be a 32 point monster.

[MyFlatline]

Ain't even gonna mention our tiny Florida deer. Great job and what a beaute .

[CastingFool]

That is a beautiful buck! Nice job with cast!

[Brad Cayton]

A lot bigger than the bucks around my neck of the woods too. Very nice!!!

[marshall623]

That is a super buck

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[ShooterAZ]

Good spread on that buck. Congrats on a great hunt Sir.

[nagantguy]

Great close on a great buck! How far was your walk to get within shooting range?

[c1skout]

Congrats! That is a doozy! Glad I didn't have to drag it.

[Silvercreek Farmer]

Good work! How about a pic of the back strap steaks with something for scale?

[Sheriff]

Congratulations on a fine buck!

[Texas by God]

That's a horse. With antlers. Well done, old chap!

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[dnepr]

Congrats ,nice buck , especiallly with your own home cast boolit

[Friends call me Pac]

Fantastic buck.

[richhodg66]

Way bigger than any I've ever killed, congratulations!

Didn't you kill a big one last year with a .348 as well?

[jwhite]

I did get a nice one last year with the .348, the rack from that one fits inside this one with room to spare! Body was a bit bigger on last years though, both nice deer and two of my best. I have owned this 45-70 for years but never really hunted with it much, always seem to end up with the model 71 if a lever gun is called for. I had recently re-read "Forty Years with the 45-70" by Paul Matthews and it got me thinking about using it this year. That and I really wanted to use one of the powder coated gould bolts.
Way bigger than any I've ever killed, congratulations!

Didn't you kill a big one last year with a .348 as well?

[jwhite]

Great close on a great buck! How far was your walk to get within shooting range?


I followed him around for almost two hours before i finally got a chance to shoot, wasn't able to stay on the tracks as well as i would have liked and lost him a couple times. It all worked out in the end, conditions were perfect under foot, decent snow and quiet.

[DougGuy]

That's a big ol' boy there! Lots of good eats on that!

[jwhite]

Just realized in my haste to post those pictures i made a mistake in the powder charge, charge i used was 50grs of 3031 not 53grs. It was interesting when i chronographed those loads, the PC Gould boolit averaged 1,800fps and a jacketed 300gr remington averaged 1600fps, a full 200fps slower with the same powder charge. Now that hunting season is done i will experiment a bit and slow that bullet down a bit more as long as it still shoots well, it really is going too fast and while it makes for a dramatic expansion it might not be so good on a less than perfect shot. It will be interesting to see what things look like when i get the hide off this guy, shot went in a bit forward of the onside shoulder as he was quartered to me quite strongly and there is no exit that i could see but the off side shoulder feels like it was torn up. Will know later today when i skin it.

[richhodg66]

Man, you kill some big deer and use cool rifles to do it as well. Congrats again.

[Mk42gunner]

I've always read that whitetail deer are bigger bodied the farther north you go, that one makes me believe it.

I for one will be interested in seeing the revered boolit, if possible. What alloy did you use?

Robert

[rking22]

Nice deer! Sounds like a my kinda hunt, just a great day in the woods! Like the G ould bullet here too, interested to see a picture if you recover it. I slowed mine doin to about 1600/1650 too, was pretty nasty at 1800 with my soft alloy.
Yep cool guns and nice deer!

[Hickok]

Jwhite, I have that same book by Paul Mathews, it is a great read.

Hopefully you can post some pictures of the damage done by the Gould boolit.

[pmer]

Wow, what a hunt for a trophy dear! I'd think that boolit snuck out somewhere unless it got as big as a pancake.

I found out from shooting hollow points into snow banks (45 ACP) that powder coated boolits didn't expand as much as a noncoated boolit. (same load and alloy)

[bowhunter]

that is a Frankenstein buck! very nice. makes our 150lb bucks here look really small,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[Grmps]

Congrats. Love the picture of your rifle in the rack :)

[white eagle]

man round here to track a deer 2 hrs would get you in serious trouble if not shot
any ides what that brute will weigh
I have that same book its a good one
congrats again

[Smoke4320]

Fine animal you collected there .. Congrats

[Jeff Michel]

Excellent job, congratulations

[pls1911]

Great score! I've been wondering about PC bullet performance on game.
Looking forward to the graphic photos as well as the bullet if you find it.
I've never recovered a cast bullet from any critter shot from any angle.
I can't complain of too much penetration though, as I've never lost a kill either.

[jwhite]

Fine animal you collected there .. Congrats

pretty sure your safety blue powder was my good luck charm! Seriously that stuff covers well and is so easy to use.

[brass410]

very nice!! just like the good ole days

[Ramjet-SS]

Are you related to Larry Benoit?

Great stalk and hunt. Great deer.

[c1skout]

+1 for bullet/wound pics. I use that boolit too, but at trapdoor levels. Never recovered one yet.

[45workhorse]

Mighty fine deer there.

[mart]

That's a fine deer and a great bullet. Good job sir.

[jwhite]

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hit him pretty far forward on the left side, he was quartering towards me a bit and had a tree blocking most of his chest so had to work with what he presented. Bullet, or at least a smaller portion of it did exit the right shoulder, looks like expansion was violent and immediate, OK in this case but had he been headed away from me it would have been a different outcome. I have tested these boolits in water jugs and at these speeds most of the bullet remains in the first two jugs, with just a little button of the base continuing on. I will slow them down a bit and see how they shoot, this particular Marlin seems to do better with heavier loads, with jacketed bullets it will place 3 shots into a large hole @ 100 yards most days, this load with the cast bullet was about a 2"-2.5" load, more than enough accuracy for the type of hunting i do. Next year i may skip the hollow point and try a softnose cast boolit in the 45-70, I have tried all different manner of tricks to enhance expansion and nothing works as well as a pure lead nose in my opinion. I know someone will chime in and say expansion isn't needed with big cast boolits and this is true, same could be said for running water or other modern niceties, but I have shot a lot of deer with cast bullets over the years and expansion helps get them to the ground quicker in my experience. In my .348 i have experimented with all different alloys, nose shapes, tin foil in the nose, hollow points, and nothing comes close to a soft nose about 25%-35% of the boolits over all length for stopping power and penetration. Thanks to all who have commented and congratulated, this time of year this is the first section of the forum i check for updates and love to see and hear about everyones successes.

[richhodg66]

Looks good.

Seems like everyone is concerned about being able to get expansion with a cast bullet and as often as not, you get more expansion that you want. I had a similar experience earlier this year with a 7mm bullet. It still did the job, but I think I will tweak alloy or velocity a bit before next time.

I love this part of the forum this time of year too.

[jwhite]

I knew i was driving this bullet too fast, or at least faster than intended but had to try it out! I do like to have a balance of energy dump and penetration, sort of the Nosler Partition effect. In the smaller to mid calibers the softnose cast can't be beat, especially when the main portion of the bullet is water dropped wheel weight, i have put them through deer facing me and they transit the entire length of animal and keep on going but yet there is impressive expansion and tissue damage from impact to about to the 10-12" deep range. At the end of the day any successful hunt is fun and more meat in the freezer or on the shelf in canning jars, fun to experiment and keep learning about how our favorite boolits work.


Looks good.

Seems like everyone is concerned about being able to get expansion with a cast bullet and as often as not, you get more expansion that you want. I had a similar experience earlier this year with a 7mm bullet. It still did the job, but I think I will tweak alloy or velocity a bit before next time.

I love this part of the forum this time of year too.

[rking22]

I like the hp but want it to act like a nobler partition. On my "rountoit list" is to make a shorter hp pin for my G ould mold. Have been using the NOE rcbs200 bullet with a drilled hp, #12 center drill. Made a little handheld guide and turn the drill with a little homemade handle. Its shallow and small but it seems to help trigger expansion. 1400ish in 357Herret and 1650fps or so in 35rem 141. Easyto do and still get "all the way thru".

[c1skout]

That does look like a violent hit.

I haven't chrony'd mine, but I think it's in the 1300 fps range. I use pure with a bit of tin. That's the way this boolit worked since forever, I didn't see any reason to try something new.

[jwhite]

I got this deer cut up yesterday and the off side shoulder took quite a pounding, the picture of the exit didn't look too bad but inside it was a mess. Hit the shoulder connection point and really smashed things up inside, must of been slowed down quite a bit by the time it hit though as there was not any bloodshot meat you see at higher velocity.

[Rick R]

Giant buck! Congratulations!

You could track one here in the National Forest for two hours. But you wouldn’t want to drag him out.

[Tripplebeards]

What a pig!