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shootsblanks
11-18-2018, 11:43 PM
Well, Fank Marshall was right it would seem.
My 3030 loaded with a 200gr fn (noe clone of the rcbs 180gr fn, 200.2gr checked and lubed 27.6gr varget) at right on 1850fps.
He pushed his 311284 with a .2 meplat he filed onto it and claimed no meat spoiled.
I made a bad shot today and that load really pulled through for me (hit the spine on a quartering shot) picture is the backstrap where the bullet entered, the side opposite the spine wasnt as nice, but i recovered 90% of the backstraps and i know full well that a 150gr jacketted bullet would have been far worse for damage
NyFirefighter357
11-19-2018, 01:16 AM
Anywhere but the back strap!
falmike
11-19-2018, 05:33 AM
Well, that’s a new way of tenderizing the backstraps.... LOL
Round worked well. Damage could have been a lot worse.
Good eating
This is the ribs of a deer hit with a 7.62x39 with a 150 lee FP at 178 yards
Data is
Lee 150 FN PCed harbor freight red a AL gas check sized to .310
Winchester 7.62x39 cases
CCI200 LR primer
21.5 grn of IMR4198 seated pretty far out(long throats on the Ruger ranch rifle)
Slight crimp
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That last one is the exit hole from 178 yards. I closed the gap from 350ish to 178yards laid on the ground used my backpack as a rest, she ran 20 yards maybe
shootsblanks
11-10-2019, 12:59 AM
Same 200gr bullet as last year, 21gr of h4198 for 1695fps. Gives me 2.5" groups at 100 yards with the semi buckhorns.
Shot through a my muley lengthwise at 90 yards, bullet entered just inside the left front leg, exited the right ham,
Pics wont load, will see what i can do about that tomorrow
When i am not full of venison and burbon
bmortell
11-10-2019, 01:17 AM
whats the lead alloy details on these, makes a big difference on rifle bullets. last year I used similar bullet at 1800 MV 2.5%sb 1.5%sn air cooled and hit one quartering lengthwise at 100yds and caught it because I hit the thigh bone and it barely deformed until it hit the bone at the end. I mean it made a hole through the lungs roughly same size as your heart picture which works but I think expanded fully would be bigger. this year I increased speed to 2000 and tin to 3% so its more malleable and expands more. and ill see how that works
brewer12345
11-10-2019, 01:55 AM
These pics look like the damage to the doe I got last year. 198 grain flat point boolit with a .19 meplat in 30-06. Velocity at muzzle around 1900 FPS and hit with a quartering shot at 80 yards. Went through meat only in a front leg, through the heart and lungs, exit wound was a good half inch out the ribs. Air-cooled clip on wheel weights with a percent or two of tin. She basically did a donut and fell over within 25 yards of where she was hit.
Flat point boolits do fine and don't do a lot of damage unless you make them too hard/brittle (they can shatter). The next time I manage to get a rifle tag I may try an alloy closer to 16-1 to encourage mushrooming and weight retention. I don't know when that will happen since it seems a lt easier to get muzzleloader tags.
shootsblanks
11-10-2019, 06:35 PM
whats the lead alloy details on these, makes a big difference on rifle bullets. last year I used similar bullet at 1800 MV 2.5%sb 1.5%sn air cooled and hit one quartering lengthwise at 100yds and caught it because I hit the thigh bone and it barely deformed until it hit the bone at the end. I mean it made a hole through the lungs roughly same size as your heart picture which works but I think expanded fully would be bigger. this year I increased speed to 2000 and tin to 3% so its more malleable and expands more. and ill see how that works
Alloy was air cooled wheel weights, lube was vasaline and beeswax (cant remember the % mix, i made 10lbs of it last year and have lots left)
erdyalx
11-10-2019, 08:27 PM
I really like this thread. I shot this doe at 110 yards with a Glock Model 40 10mm. It is a lee 180 TC . I heat treated them after I PC'd them with powder from smoke. My buddy got one as well with his 10mm. Same load was used. These are running 1300 - 1350.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191111/242aab587c9271fd01b3df0c033a1360.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191111/f6ac7015069f6e0d1f0b3341181ba42b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191111/9b526739ac1304fa295a3b5e13f326cd.jpg
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shrapnel
11-11-2019, 04:30 PM
The 32-40 isn't a real hotrod, but when shot right, it kills. 1 180 grain lead bullet through the heart and liver did the job...
http://i.imgur.com/McElPfC.jpg (https://imgur.com/McElPfC)
http://i.imgur.com/woHEBlX.jpg (https://imgur.com/woHEBlX)
sixshot
11-11-2019, 04:46 PM
Nice going Shrapnel, nice old lever gun kill. But that's cheating, you had all those tree's to hide behind & stalk him!!
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Anschutz
11-11-2019, 04:48 PM
Here's a picture from a doe I got in 2015. Exit hole of a .45-70, 405 WNFP cast at 436gr. I can't remember what all I hit but she was DRT. That's the last time I've carried a rifle hunting as I didn't want to deal with the draw in Colorado. In Virginia now and hopefully going to get one with the .357 come Saturday.
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Anschutz
11-11-2019, 04:49 PM
The 32-40 isn't a real hotrod, but when shot right, it kills. 1 180 grain lead bullet through the heart and liver did the job...
http://i.imgur.com/McElPfC.jpg (https://imgur.com/McElPfC)
http://i.imgur.com/woHEBlX.jpg (https://imgur.com/woHEBlX)
Very nice shrapnel. My dad has his grandfather's 1894 in .32-40. He put a 170gr factory load through one. Figure that rifle has put meat on the table in 3 centuries.
shootsblanks
11-11-2019, 09:41 PM
The 32-40 isn't a real hotrod, but when shot right, it kills. 1 180 grain lead bullet through the heart and liver did the job...
http://i.imgur.com/McElPfC.jpg (https://imgur.com/McElPfC)
http://i.imgur.com/woHEBlX.jpg (https://imgur.com/woHEBlX)
Nice to see somebody else hunting prarie with a levergun!
Good shot!
What was the load/velocity? Some of my intent with this thread was to compile picture evidence of what a lot of the guys here have been saying for years. Even the 30s dont need much speed to kill
Tis the season for dead deer pics, keep them comin guys!
Almost filled my whitetail tag today but the clever girl skylined herself on a crest with nothing but gentle rolling hills and a highway about 2km behind her. Not a safe shot.
taco650
11-11-2019, 10:25 PM
The 32-40 isn't a real hotrod, but when shot right, it kills. 1 180 grain lead bullet through the heart and liver did the job...
http://i.imgur.com/McElPfC.jpg (https://imgur.com/McElPfC)
Nice background scenery on the pic!
What was the range on that shot and can you give a little more of the hunt story please?
Slugster
11-11-2019, 10:32 PM
Good going Shrapnel! I would never have seen the deer because I would have been too distracted by the beautiful scenery.
elk hunter
11-12-2019, 04:15 PM
This is about the only picture of cast bullet performance on game that I have. Cape Buffalo, frontal shot to the chest from 20 yards with a .585 diameter, 525 grain SWC cast from Linotype backed with 64 grains of H 4198. He ran about 30 yards and was down but still alive, had to shoot him twice more in the shoulder.
shrapnel
11-12-2019, 05:00 PM
Nice background scenery on the pic!
What was the range on that shot and can you give a little more of the hunt story please?
As you can see the country is mostly wide open. I got there early in the morning and started glassing for deer. Once I found deer, I take out the spotting scope and start looking for a decent buck to shoot. I did see a good buck and then decided to get as close without spooking them as I could, then figure out how to use the cover to my advantage to put a stalk on the buck.
I saw a good 4X4 and got within 200 yards, but the distance for that 32-40 is a bit much, so I watched him go out of sight behind a knoll and then decided on a different tact. I saw another truck on the lower part of the property and felt like I had better get within sight of him to keep him from coming my way and blowing the sneak attack I had planned. The truck headed on East for another few miles, then I went back to business to find the 4 point I had been watching.
I took my time, came around a bluff and spotted this deer in his bed. I took for granted it was the same deer and headed down wind and through another coulee to get within 32-40 range. He was still in his bed at about 80 yards after crawling through cactus and gravel to get that close. I stuck the barrel of the rifle over the rim and made enough movement for him to stand up, then shot him facing me, dead center in the chest. It wasn't the same deer, but it was still a good stalk and decent shot...
ole_270
11-12-2019, 07:00 PM
Wish I had pictures of the last deer I shot with the 38-55. 38-250B mold from Accurate, running 1600 fps. That big flat point at 30 yards makes quite an impression. Doe was stumbling at the 3rd jump and down in 20 yards. There was a bit more bloodshot than I like, but no tracking needed in the heavy timber.
rking22
11-12-2019, 08:24 PM
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Above from a doe at 40 yards 357 Herrett 200gr(actual wt 217) RCBS clone, eh 1400 maybe 1500 FPS, never checked it for velocity, very accurate. Alloy was probably 1.5/1.5/97. Ran 20 yards, jumped a cattle fence!! And landed in a pile.
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Above with a 238 WFN NOE HP (actual wt 225gr)at roughly 35 yards, vel 1150 from a 41 special. Ran 20 yards before crashing head long into a tree and falling over. Alloy was 1.5/1.5/97.
WinchesterM1
11-13-2019, 11:26 AM
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Lee 309-150f over 35 Varget in 308. Entry hole at 73-75 yards he ran 20-25 yards and landed in a giant pile of thorns of course
WinchesterM1
11-13-2019, 11:29 AM
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Entry of another deer(button buck) shot at 138 yards with the same load but he was DRT
Blackhawk357
11-13-2019, 11:50 AM
This is about the only picture of cast bullet performance on game that I have. Cape Buffalo, frontal shot to the chest from 20 yards with a .585 diameter, 525 grain SWC cast from Linotype backed with 64 grains of H 4198. He ran about 30 yards and was down but still alive, had to shoot him twice more in the shoulder.You didn't find that one in Oregon? I take pics of mine for this years season. It starts Thanksgiving Holiday here in FL.
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This is about the only picture of cast bullet performance on game that I have. Cape Buffalo, frontal shot to the chest from 20 yards with a .585 diameter, 525 grain SWC cast from Linotype backed with 64 grains of H 4198. He ran about 30 yards and was down but still alive, had to shoot him twice more in the shoulder.
Tell us more about that hunt - what part of the world were you hunting? 20 yds from a Cape Buffalo is too darn close! {g}
elk hunter
11-13-2019, 12:22 PM
Tell us more about that hunt - what part of the world were you hunting? 20 yds from a Cape Buffalo is too darn close! {g}
That was 2015 we were in the Limpopo District of South Africa. I took the buffalo and a very nice Kudu bull. The wife got a spectacular Gems Buck, an Impala and a Zebra.
As for the buffalo hunt we spent three days working them in the thorn brush. At times we were so close you could smell and hear them but couldn't see them. We nearly stepped on four bulls bedded in a patch of thorn, when they ran they were only about 10 yards from us and fortunately went away from us. I can truthfully say that hunting Cape Buffalo in the thorn brush at bad breath range is quite exciting. We had planned on going back this past August but that didn't work out so we're looking at 2020 or 2021.
Thanks for the hunting info. I can't imagine being that close to Cape Buffalo - from my reading they are one dangerous animal!
Smoke4320
11-14-2019, 12:30 PM
300 Blkout MP 312-150 HP running approx 1900 FPS Pc'ed Flame Red no gas check 98/2 allow with 2% tin
73-75 yds Buck was approx 180 lbs
Look closely right behind front shoulder in 2nd pic and you will see the single shot exited. entry side was a 30 cal hole and almost zero blood damage
to this day we can not explain all the blood. No bones were hit and a clean pass thru
heart was mush
he fell where he was shot
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superior
11-15-2019, 04:43 PM
45-colt Lee 300 grain. 50 yards . Spine shot was all he presented. Several inches of vertebrae removed. His hooves hit his stomach before he hit the ground . Boolit was heard whistling through mesquite trees after the initial whack . One entrance wound. Multiple exit wounds. 251288251289251290
At the time , I was in Texas , stalking through cacti.
300 Blkout MP 312-150 HP running approx 1900 FPS Pc'ed Flame Red no gas check 98/2 allow with 2% tin
73-75 yds Buck was approx 180 lbs
Look closely right behind front shoulder in 2nd pic and you will see the single shot exited. entry side was a 30 cal hole and almost zero blood damage
to this day we can not explain all the blood. No bones were hit and a clean pass thru
heart was mush
he fell where he was shot
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I have that mould my lead mix is the same, I sell thousands of them every year to guys for subsonic loads at 1000fps they expand to .400"
in 9 years of selling them I have never had a complaint of one failing, It is one most excellent boolit.
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