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Buzzard II
11-05-2018, 01:25 PM
So I just got an e-mail back from Jerry at Powder Inc. telling me KIK is no longer making the holy black. I have enough, but anyone using it should stock up if you can find it and look for a comparable replacement. Anyone have an suggestions about what will work to replace it? I shoot 45,50,54 and 58 as well as 44-40.Good shooting.
Bob

59sharps
11-05-2018, 01:59 PM
I use 27 grn of 3fffg OE w a moose mold in my 44-40. It loves it. I use goex 2ffg in my smoothbore and 3fffg goex in everything else.

Nobade
11-05-2018, 05:03 PM
Kik is ok but OE is better. Just use that.

dave951
11-05-2018, 11:52 PM
+1 for Old Eynsford. I've tested it against regular Goex and not only does it burn cleaner, it's also more accurate.

sharps4590
11-06-2018, 08:15 AM
My very limited experience with OE is in one rifle, a 140 year old German double rifle in 11.15 X 46R. OE equaled the first batch of the old GOEX Ctg. from the 80's and that was a very good powder. Anymore of my powder purchases will be OE.

toot
11-06-2018, 09:55 AM
when I was in the ARMY many years ago, 58, we were taught to -adapt - improvise- overcome! I guess I will have to revert back, and find something, any rely good ones?

cas
11-06-2018, 07:36 PM
Kik was my go to flintlock powder. :(


I still haven't figured out what to use in my BPCR's when my Goex Express runs out... now this! :veryconfu

Buzzard II
11-06-2018, 08:14 PM
I'm guessing Swiss or OE, but I'll wait and see.

Squeeze
11-11-2018, 09:47 AM
looks like KIK (Slovenia)went bankrupt about 2006-2008. In 2010, someone brought 173,514 lbs into the US in bulk to repackage. Guess that finally ran out. I dont know who the importer/supplier was, but most online adds state it ships from supplier.