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Reddirt62
10-24-2018, 04:38 PM
Year #2 the we have hunters trespassing on our land, disabling our feeder, tipping over our stand and stealing our game cams. Reports filed with Sheriff and Warden. Very frustrating.....on a lighter note my son bagged a doe.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181024/270e1c0d47aef2bdf70659a85d0f62e6.jpg

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AggieEE
10-24-2018, 04:46 PM
Are you sure they are hunters? This sounds more like something one or more anti-hunting people, I use the term people loosely, would do.

RogerDat
10-24-2018, 05:05 PM
Could be anti-hunters but more likely to be hunters nearby who don't want the competition. The anti-hunters tend to go out and disrupt hunting with noise or pee on stuff to keep deer away. More often on public lands than private which is what I assume "our land" means. Also the anti folks tend to avoid criminal activity such as trespass or theft. They would be more likely to make game cam useless by setting on ground or turning toward tree. Hunter can use it and not really traceable so hunter would be more likely to steal game camera.

My guess is it is someone who hunts nearby. If you can find some poison ivy and wear nitrile gloves you might be able to make those game cams a bit of an unpleasant surprise for anyone that snatches one. Then keep a lookout or listen for stories of hunters that got poison ivy in your area :-)

redhawk0
10-24-2018, 05:09 PM
I like the thought a deep pit with a spike bottom...setting up a trap like that for cougars on your own land shouldn't be illegal. Make sure you set up another camera to catch the cougar in action :)

And...your son got a nice deer...nothing wrong with some meat in the freezer.


redhawk

sukivel
10-24-2018, 05:29 PM
Yeah that’s a bunch of ****! I got somebody hunting the oil field next to me, clearly posted no hunting, and last year I found a carcass out by the road missing the backstrap. I only shoot the ones that need to be culled, but haven’t seen my nice big buck lately. Trying to keep the good genes, but...


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edp2k
10-24-2018, 05:34 PM
Likely antis.
They love to damage, remove, hide, throw things in a lake/ravine that the don't approve of.
I have seen them trespass and break things quite often.

Remember the mink farms, :freeing" lab animals, etc.

lightman
10-24-2018, 06:01 PM
Thats sad. Maybe someday they will miss a camera and you can catch them. It fairly makes you want to spend the money on some cameras that will send pictures to your phone. Around here most of the trespassing is done by hog hunters. As wild pigs are not considered game animals I guess they don't consider themselves trespassing? They steal the SD card from our cameras. Nice looking Doe!

Triggerfinger
10-24-2018, 06:15 PM
Bad enough people trespass on posted properties, but then to destroy your equipment is unbelievable. Hope you find the culprits get justice.

jmort
10-24-2018, 06:26 PM
+1 it is a neighbor
I would pay them a visit, might be young ones
That is how it is done here
Always best to talk it out, otherwise it is esclated to level no one wants

15meter
10-24-2018, 06:39 PM
Most likely someone trying to eliminate competition. When I still hunted, I was scouting on the back of my aunt's farm when I got accosted by two semi-hostile individuals that lived nearby. Not real nasty, just trying to intimidate me. They told me to get out, that I was trespassing on their property and if I didn't leave they were going to call the sheriff on me. At that, I invited them to go up to my aunt's(who they knew and had warned me about them when I asked her permission to hunt) house so we could discuss it further. It was ******** and elbows for them to get out of there. On their way away from me I told them I was going to be hunting on my other uncle's farm directly across from their house so they didn't have to try and stop me over there either.

Sheriff never did get called. Surprise, surprise.

jonp
10-24-2018, 06:50 PM
2 game cams. One that can be seen without a great deal of effort and one hidden pretty good and high enough that it can not be gotten to.

I hate thieves.

jonp
10-24-2018, 06:52 PM
+1 it is a neighbor
I would pay them a visit, might be young ones
That is how it is done here
Always best to talk it out, otherwise it is esclated to level no one wants

Buddy had his taken. Did the two camera trick and it was the guy who had a camp right near ours. Called the Game Warden, showed him the tape and he took care of it. Last time we had a problem with that guy.

Reddirt62
10-24-2018, 06:57 PM
The reason I say hunters is...they set up a tree stand and game cam just over the fence facing my land....nothing happened to that stuff.

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woodbutcher
10-24-2018, 08:24 PM
:lol: About 35 years ago,a friend was having the same problems as you.Soooooooooooooooo
he rigged a sweet booby trap.Consisted of a large piece of fine mesh net and about 200lbs of dairy barn leaveings.Found where they were coming on to his property and rigged it up real nice with a triop wire across the path.After the trap was triggered the first time.NO more unwanted people on the property.:D:D:D. You could say they were in deep CACA.
Good luck.Have fun.Be safe.
Leo

dragon813gt
10-24-2018, 08:35 PM
2 game cams. One that can be seen without a great deal of effort and one hidden pretty good and high enough that it can not be gotten to.

I hate thieves.

This is the solution. Spend the money on one w/ cellular service and GPS. It will send pics when they’re taken and you can track the camera after it’s taken. Nothing is perfect but it’s better than nothing. I would set one up high w/ an extension ladder directly facing a lower camera.

I hate vandals and thieves. I gave up on trail cameras on the farm I hunt on. I’m not a family member and it was a relative that was taking mine. He also stole a good climbing rope and tried to damage my stand. Since I’m not family there was no recourse except don’t put cameras up and don’t leave anything at the stand.

Treetop
10-24-2018, 08:45 PM
Reddirt62, your son made a beautiful shot on that doe! You couldn't ask for better arrow placement. Treetop

Mal Paso
10-24-2018, 09:06 PM
Reddirt62, your son made a beautiful shot on that doe! You couldn't ask for better arrow placement. Treetop

I saw that too! Nice Shot!

Reddirt62
10-24-2018, 09:16 PM
Thanks!!

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Blanket
10-24-2018, 10:00 PM
the old saying that some people just need killing is true

Reddirt62
10-25-2018, 12:37 PM
Step #1 in the plan to end it. 8)https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181025/f1e3cc338c8d026a0f41b828fafb4416.jpg

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Tackleberry41
10-25-2018, 01:36 PM
Just way people are, my girlfriend just about has her house sold. So figured would get the deer stands out of the woods to use somewhere else. She kept asking if I needed glasses since I could not find them. No my eyes are fine, the stands are gone. Just cut the straps and left them laying there.

Hardcast416taylor
10-25-2018, 02:47 PM
We had `City Hunter` problems, as we called it back in the `50`s and 1960`s. Park in a field entrance off the road and just head out on your posted property! I once was on a tractor pulling a trailer of cut firewood down a field lane and came upon 4 hunters coming out of a cornfield of ours. They immediately lit into me for stealing the wood from their Grandma`s wood lot and being on her land. I politely asked her name and where her farmhouse was, they couldn`t seem to remember. I again politely pointed out out property line fence and urged them to get their rear ends over it and don`t let me find them on our land again. Open gates, cut wire fences or broken down fences for dog crossings were about as common as the ripped down or shot off the trees `No Trespassing` signs we bought and hung up got treated. People often wondered why we were so sour on `City Hunters` being on our land?Robert

bedbugbilly
10-25-2018, 02:50 PM
All my life growing up on the farm we battled trespassers. If it wasn't bird hunters cutting holes in the venues to let their dogs through it was deer hunters who couldn't tell a holstein from a deer. When they opened up a doe season one year where you could take either buck or a doe - it was nothing but a nightmare. It finally got the point where we couldn't get any hunting done ourselves because we were spending all our time chasing people off. When the either/ or season was opened, the worthless SOBs would shoot at anything they was that was brown that moved. A good portion were "city folks" who felt they had the right to hunt on any land they wanted to. The unfortunate thing was that when they shot at anything that was brown, they usually gut shot them and then wouldn't track them and put them down. I found a number of gut shot deer the first year they allowed taking a doe or a buck where they had been shot, run and bled out. Several years ago, when I got back in the spring, I found the rotted carcass of what had been a good sized buck. Some SOB shot it, then took a hacksaw and cut the rack off and eft the deer lay . I don't hunt anymore and I'm sure not "anti hunting" . . . but "anti trespassing"? There ought to be a special season on those who don't respect other folk's property and don't con't care enough to make humane kills. IMHO

Chad5005
10-25-2018, 03:09 PM
armed trespassing is a pretty serious offense and when combined with poaching could land you in the pokey for quite a lengthy stay and loss of your gun and hunting license for the rest of your life

375supermag
10-25-2018, 03:16 PM
Hi...
We had problems with trespassers hunting on my exFIL's farm years ago.
A group of hunters from Ohio just showed up on the farm for the first day of buck season one year.
One of them shoot a deer on the ridge behind the barn about 100yds from me.He must have shot at least ten times and when he got there he had pretty much shot it to pieces.
When I asked why he kept shooting laying on the ground and obviously dead, he said he wanted to make sure it was dead.
I told him he was trespassing and needed to leave, so he started to drag it without even gutting it. He also stated that he was with a group from Ohio and was told this was all open state land. There is no state game lands for quite a few miles from the farm.
I found another one of group about 200 yds behind the farm house later that day.
Heclaimed he was lost and couldn't find his way back to their vehicle.
I escorted him to the property line and pointed him across about 5 miles of broken land of ridges and farm land to the town of Breezewood, Pa. Don't know if he ever made it there but we never saw them again.

We found bullet holes in the barn and a shed and cut wire in the fence line in several places.

A couple of years before that a friend of mine found a group of guys getting out of a vehicle with Ohio plates on his grandparents farm on the first day of buck season.
He warned them against trespassing on the property. They beat him up and stole his rifle which had been given to him by his grandfather. It took him about a week to recover from the beating they gave him.

Kenstone
10-25-2018, 06:01 PM
Just tape some single edge razor blades along top/back edge of the camera(s).
:grin:
careful with that though

Jeff Michel
10-25-2018, 06:32 PM
After repairing rods of cut fences, shot up out buildings and the obvious annoyance of unwelcome guests. I started cutting firewood on the first day of bow season, take a break during gun season, I'm in the woods everyday for that week so I can keep an eye on stuff. That single activity has completely stopped any trespassing issues I had and it appears the deer could care less.

DIRT Farmer
10-25-2018, 08:43 PM
I have two pieces of timber ground, why do tresspassers pick a nice white oak to put their deer stand on then nail it to the tree to keep it from being "stolen". The tree is now worthless except for firewood. A bullet through one leg of a tree stand will generaly cause it to colaspe when climbed, not that I would consider doing that.

MaryB
10-25-2018, 09:18 PM
"Slob hunters" as we called them.

Back in the early 80's we leased hunting rights to 80 acres or so of prime river bottom/field edge/field up to the back of the house. We parked in the farm yard and walked in 1/4 mile to our stands scattered along the river or along the top edge by the field.

I was sitting in my stand when I hear a bullet hit the tree a couple feet over my head. I climb down and start heading up to the parking when I see this guy sprint off at a run. I took the shortcut, moved my truck and blocked him in and called the guys on the radios we used to help drag a deer out if needed or if someone had an emergency(Never used them to hunt or report deer moving, illegal!) and had 2 of them run up to help.

Guy who was trespassing gets up there, has a fit, points an AR-15 at me(we hunted in a shotgun only zone) and says he is going to kill me. John pops up form behind my truck and tells him to drop it, get face down on the ground. John happened to be a MN State Hwy patrol officer and had cuffs in his truck... game warden arrived, confiscated his truck and all the rifles that were in it, the rifles from 3 other guys who were with him and they got ticketed for trespass and using a rifle in the shotgun only zone. Guy who pointed the gun at me spent a year in jail.. got out and a few years later shot a guy in WI...

They were Hmong and the refused to obey game laws... when fishing they kept everything, one guy had 12 northern pike when the limit was 3... most were snakes a foot long that should have been thrown back to grow up... Minnesota had a real problem with them for a couple years back in the 80's...

Gewehr-Guy
10-25-2018, 09:32 PM
MaryB, I remember some out of state pheasant hunters in our little hometown bar were talking about that incident, seems that one of them knew the victim. Weren't there more than one person shot?

Love Life
10-26-2018, 08:52 AM
When I bought my property from the family, the first thing I did was shut down all hunting on it. For years relatives and friends of the family would “hunt” on the property and leave the place a mess. They’d leave gates unlocked, mud bog the dirt roads, leave trash, wound deer, etc.

There were a lot of issues after I stopped the hunting. People would trespass and hang tree stands, vandalize the property, etc. when I found tree stands I would put them on the side of the road with a big “free” sign on them.

Two things solved my problems. I gave a sheriff deputy and his kids exclusive permission to hunt the place with the only requirement being they clean up after themselves and lock gates. The second thing I did was allow a man to plant crops and do cattle on the property with the only cost was to maintain the dirt roads and fences. No problems in the last 4 years, lol.

buckwheatpaul
10-26-2018, 09:47 AM
Year #2 the we have hunters trespassing on our land, disabling our feeder, tipping over our stand and stealing our game cams. Reports filed with Sheriff and Warden. Very frustrating.....on a lighter note my son bagged a doe.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181024/270e1c0d47aef2bdf70659a85d0f62e6.jpg

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I have had similar problem in the past so I put the camera back and then put one up in a nearby tree and presto chango I figured out who it was...no more problems.....

MaryB
10-26-2018, 07:27 PM
MaryB, I remember some out of state pheasant hunters in our little hometown bar were talking about that incident, seems that one of them knew the victim. Weren't there more than one person shot?

I can't remember off the top of my head... it was back in the 80's...

Sparky141
10-28-2018, 09:38 AM
I hate trespassers also , they make the real sportsmen look bad .
They also make now game cameras now that link together so only the home camera has a SD card in it. so unless they steal the home camera you will have pics of them stealing the others .

Plate plinker
10-28-2018, 10:45 AM
buddy had his taken. Did the two camera trick and it was the guy who had a camp right near ours. Called the game warden, showed him the tape and he took care of it. Last time we had a problem with that guy.

this!^^^^^^

clintsfolly
10-28-2018, 08:46 PM
Many yrs ago my cousin was hunting his dad,s place and shot a buck. As he started to gut Two guys came up to him and he told them that they where trespassing and to leave. One of them pointed his rifle at him and said that it was their buck and for him to leave. Which he did over the ridge and to his blind. He dropped his orange coat and hat and grabbed his rifle. Back over the ridge he went slow and quite. He guys where finishing gutting the deer and they both had leaned their rifles against a tree. Boom Boom the guys rifle stocks exploded. 7 mmRem Mag is hard on stocks. He yelled “ Enjoy the meat! “. They never had trespassers after that.

LaPoint
10-28-2018, 08:50 PM
Nobody is completely worthless!! They can always serve as a bad example! LOL!

clintsfolly
10-29-2018, 08:49 AM
Or fertilizer!

bikerbeans
11-05-2018, 09:10 AM
I found a game cam on my lease yesterday. I notified the property owner who confiscated it. I usually carry a concealed 40 s&w when i hunt, gonna upgrade to my 45acp this year.

BB