Good 30 carbine mold

[asmith80]

I've read through a bunch of the older threads on this but most of them were a little older and I didn't know if anything new had come around.

Looking for a good mold for 30 carbine. I'm looking at 2 right now, and I'm open to other suggestions. I've had mixed experience with Lee Molds, so I'd like to avoid them for the moment.

The two I'm looking at are

http://accuratemolds.com/bullet_detail.php?bullet=31-115CG-D.png

And

http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/product_info.php?cPath=30_345&products_id=118

[ShooterAZ]

Either of those two look promising. If the Accurate flat nosed one would feed reliably it would be awesome. Iv'e had a few issues in the past with FN designs in my carbines. I primarily use the RCBS 30-115-SP, and the Lyman 311359. I can also HP either one with the Forster tool and they feed 100%.

[Outpost75]

This is the Accurate mold I use in mine:

227650

[asmith80]

Outpost, that looks like it has a really simar nose to the one I linked. Any issues with feeding?

[Outpost75]

Outpost, that looks like it has a really simar nose to the one I linked. Any issues with feeding?

Feeds 100% in my DCM Inland.

7.4 grains of AutoComp drops the cases at your feet.

[TCFAN]

My saginaw 30 carbine feeds the 311316 just fine.I use the Ideal 3113i6 hollow point and the NOE solid point version both. The largest deer I ever killed was with this carbine using the old Ideal mold #311227. One shot in the neck dead right there.

[asmith80]

I've seen a lot of posts about the 311-115 from NOE but I can't find it on the page. Is it still in production, or called something else now?

[jjnpg317]

In my rifles (M1 & Marlin 62 ) , I shot the NOE 311-115 GC , Lyman 311576, and Lyman 311465 Loverin. I liked them all, but each required different powders.

[dale2242]

asmith80, the 311-115 appears to be renamed the 311-121 rn gc. Mine when lubed and GCed weigh 120
I have tried many different cast boolits in the M1 Carbine and this is the best I have found.
I cast mine from 50/50 WW/lino and size to .309. I know, but I have a lot of lino.
They feed perfectly and shoot great.
I am loading surplus WC820.
296/H110 was developed for the carbine....dale

[asmith80]

Thanks for the info. With all the older posts on the subject that mention that mold as well as the advice I've gotten here, I ordered a 5 cavity from NOE today.

[KenT7021]

The only cast bullet I've used in the carbine was the Lyman Ideal 31133 which is a hollow point version of the #311008.It was quite accurate.

[GONRA]

GONRA had great M1 and M2 Carbine experience with
118.5 grain, .309 inch diameter, Lyman U311359 gas check bullet, Lyman bullet lube
with 13.5 grains IMR-4227 powder, CCI 400 primers.

[rintinglen]

Lyman or NOE 311-465 120 GC boolits, 13.0 grains of h-110, WSR primers worked well for me.

[Forrest r]

If you can find the old cramer #50 molds, they cast excellent bullets for the m1 carbines. Mine casts hp's & sp's
https://i.imgur.com/6Stasr6.jpg

As already mentioned the lyman 122gr 311465 is another bullet that does well in the carbines.
https://i.imgur.com/R3EZFki.jpg?1

Don't know why but I always preferred heavier cast bullets in the carbines. Sold off my m1 carbines/brass/dies years ago but still kept the molds.

[Dragonheart]

Have you looked at the Saeco #254 mold or the Lyman 311410 which is a little heaver 130 grain? Neither of these require a gas check.

[beagle]

If you have feeding trouble with a FN design in the M1 Carbine, use a Lyman #311 top punch with a slight bump at the downstroke on the lubing cycle and it will slightly round the corners enough for good feeding. I had that problem with Lyman's 311008./beagle

[Dragonheart]

The only bullet design that has given me feeding problem in other guns have been the flat nose, but Powder Coating fixed the issue.

[Larry Gibson]

If you want a cast bullet that will, after zeroing, regulate to the range settings on the rear sight then the 311359 is the best choice. At 1850 fps it can do extremely well matching POI with the rear sight range settings to 300 yards.

[NoZombies]

The Saeco or H&G #254 molds are my go to for my carbine shooting.

[Thin Man]

Many years ago a friend who owned a carbine asked me to load ammo for him. I built these loads using boolits from an Ideal mold 31133, the hollow point design of their original 311008 for the 32-20. Alloy was COWW, air cooled. He reported back that these loads were completely reliable to cycle in his rifle, hit at the sights, and were in his words "explosive" when they hit hard targets in a gravel pit. He was thrilled with them and that made me happy as well.

[Dragonheart]

The Saeco or H&G #254 molds are my go to for my carbine shooting.

These molds were designed for the M-1 Carbine, so it is hard to go wrong.

[usbp379]

Bumping this thread since I have a similar question.

I am asking about the Accurate 31-110JZ. It looks pretty much like the bullet asked about at the beginning of this thread but has no lube grooves. I'm thinking it would be a nice bullet for powder coat.

[avogunner]

If you want a cast bullet that will, after zeroing, regulate to the range settings on the rear sight then the 311359 is the best choice. At 1850 fps it can do extremely well matching POI with the rear sight range settings to 300 yards.

I cannot contradict Mr. Gibson...the 311359 is a great choice (I use it myself) but I also have, and prefer, the Lyman 311576. It's a 120gr RN designed specifically for the Carbine. Function is perfect and as above, with the proper velocity, it shoots POA with my jacketed loads.
Semper Fi.

[usbp379]

311576 won't be easy to find. It hasn't been produced in a long time.

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[usbp379]

Probably a reasonable facsimile to the discontinued Lyman bullet:

https://www.rcbs.com/bullet-casting/moulds/bullet-mould-.30-115-sp-535/16-82009.html

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[usbp379]

lyman 311465 is another bullet that does well in the carbines.



NOE makes his own version of the 311465. How does his compare to the original?

https://noebulletmolds.com/site/shop/308-311/311-127-fn-l2/311-127-fn-l2-4-cavity-pb-311465

The bullet's length appears good and it should seat to 1.68" easily. But will the small flat point cause feeding issues? Was the Lyman bullet also a FN or was it RN?

On a related note, the NOE bullet would probably make a nice HP mold.

[avogunner]

311576 won't be easy to find. It hasn't been produced in a long time.

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You’re right. I posted a WTB and a member here and I worked a deal. If it wasn’t for this site, I’d probably still be looking.


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[Larry Gibson]

311576 won't be easy to find. It hasn't been produced in a long time.

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The Lee C309-120-R is pretty close to a direct copy of the 311576.

[denul]

I have both PB versions of MPs 314-640 mold for the 32's; the one I use for a 30 carbine is the 115 grain, which cast of my alloy and using a standard hollow point pin, runs 116 grains. After powder coating, without a gas check, it mikes about .315, but sizes very easily to.309, without distorting the configuration. Sized, and powder coated, is the nearest thing I can make at home to the Speer Varminter, which was so popular decades ago in that caliber. It feeds extremely well in my old my rough unmodified carbine, as well as two fairly picky Ruger 30 carbine revolvers. No issues whatsoever with leading the gasport, and although I have not tried it as extensively as others posting here, I also really appreciate the fact that it feeds through the Mr Bulletfeeder without issue both for resizing, and for reloading.

The main reason I decided to post it here is that the thing is on sale and in stock on his website with a 20% summer discount.

[usbp379]

...is the nearest thing I can make at home to the Speer Varminter.

Is that the same as this bullet?

https://www.gtbullets.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=7&products_id=24

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[denul]

That bullet looks very much like the 100 grain version that Mihec also manufactures. I have found it to be pretty good in 327 Federal and 32 h&r, as well as 30 carbine although I like the heavier 115 grain in the 30 carbine. I'm not certain that it is the same bullet but it certainly looks a lot like it. With powder coating, I have not found it necessary to use and especially hard alloy, although I could understand doing that if you are driving them at m1 carbine velocities

[Green Frog]

That bullet looks very much like the 100 grain version that Mihec also manufactures. I have found it to be pretty good in 327 Federal and 32 h&r, as well as 30 carbine although I like the heavier 115 grain in the 30 carbine. I'm not certain that it is the same bullet but it certainly looks a lot like it. With powder coating, I have not found it necessary to use and especially hard alloy, although I could understand doing that if you are driving them at m1 carbine velocities

I was thinking the same thing... that bullet sure does look familiar! My Mihec mound drops them just enough over 313 to clean up nicely in my Lyman sizing die in that size... runs about 105 gr in my alloy of mostly COWWs with a % or two of tin to cast smoother. I’ve never owned a carbine or loaded for one, but I love it for 32 revolver cartridges of various lengths.

Froggie