New to me Glock

[LUCKYDAWG13]

Well guys i picked up my new to me Glock 21 over the weekend I just love it do not Know why i waited so long to get
a Glock it shoots Awesome lotta fun I cant wait to go to my outdoor range with it and shoot some Steel and 2 litter plastic
bottles :mrgreen: 225475 this is at 15 yards with my reloads

[Petrol & Powder]

I shoot a lot of handguns, including Glocks. The Glock is far better than the haters will lead you to believe.

As a combat pistol, the Glock is outstanding. They are incredibly reliable and incredibly durable. Most of the problems I've seen with Glocks come from people attempting to "improve" them.

They are not pretty guns nor are they intended to be pretty (although their reliability and durability does make them extremely attractive but only in a practical manner).

There's a lot of misinformation out there concerning the Glock platform. When you get beyond the bias, they are solid guns.

[cwlongshot]

I shoot a lot of handguns, including Glocks. The Glock is far better than the haters will lead you to believe.

As a combat pistol, the Glock is outstanding. They are incredibly reliable and incredibly durable. Most of the problems I've seen with Glocks come from people attempting to "improve" them.

They are not pretty guns nor are they intended to be pretty (although their reliability and durability does make them extremely attractive but only in a practical manner).

There's a lot of misinformation out there concerning the Glock platform. When you get beyond the bias, they are solid guns.

Gospel truth right there!

CW

[LUCKYDAWG13]

I was looking at all the upgrades that i can do and thinking that I may just do some I did order a set of Talon grips the rubber ones
for it but going to shoot it for a wile first The trigger is not that bad just had to get used to it

[jdfoxinc]

You can obtain a 10mm barrel, .460 Roberts, etc. + a 22 lb recoil spring on a guide rod and have a multi caliber platform.

[LUCKYDAWG13]

You can obtain a 10mm barrel, .460 Roberts, etc. + a 22 lb recoil spring on a guide rod and have a multi caliber platform.

good to know

[Petrol & Powder]

LEAVE IT STOCK!

It will work forever.

[LUCKYDAWG13]

LEAVE IT STOCK!

It will work forever.

LOL I probable will but I'm going to add the Talon rubber grips to it I also just sent for a few more magazines and I will add a light to it
this is going to be for H/D One more question not to open a can of worms but is shooting plated bullets ok in a stock barrel and what is Glock brass bulge
my brass that i shot today looks normal

[Char-Gar]

I have had one or more Glocks since they first came into this country. I can't muster us any affection for them, but they are very good at what they are designed to do. They are a combat handgun and they are as good at that, as any other and better than many.

[knifemaker]

I hate glocks, they way they look that is. I am a die in wool 1911 old fart and want all metal in my handguns. As for being a reliable firearm, Glocks are hard to beat. There is many reports from indoor ranges that rents firearms of having Glocks going 20-40 thousand rounds without any form of breakage to any of it's parts. They also have a great reputation for feeding and extracting ammo over most other semi autos. My two main 1911s will feed empty cases from the magazine and are extremely reliable, but I had to work on the feed ramp and chamber mouth to get that reliability. Glocks are noted for having that reliability from the factory box.

[FLINTNFIRE]

Shooting plated is fine , though mine with stock barrels only see cast , as for the bulge I do not get that on my 3rd and 4th generation models , as I believe it was early models and some other manufactures who had unsupported chambers that caused the bulge , I have found brass with it and I bought some brass on here once that had been run through a bulge buster die to take out the bulge . Still leaves a little smiley spot on case and does weaken it in that spot , am not a fan of brass with that issue and it goes in recycle can.

[9.3X62AL]

The 45 ACP is already a very lead-friendly caliber right from the git-go, and I had zero leading or accuracy problems with my Glock 21s using cast bullets sized at .452" and lubed with Alox/BW. Bullets sized at .454" did well also. The 8-lobed OEM barrels in mine were .449" x .453", throats were .452". One needs only see the work done by Whitworth rifles during the 19th Century to get a clear idea of how well polygonal bores can manage poured projectiles. In terms of BS per square meter, the Glock has caused some of the deepest accumulations ever discovered in the venues of arms journalism.

[LUCKYDAWG13]

Thank you all

[Tom W.]

I had a 17, a 19 and a 30, and they would shoot anything that would fit into the chamber. Reliable as all get out. However, after my Chemo I got a severe case of nephropathy that won't go away, and it caused my shooting to go south pretty quick because I can't feel much if anything. I started shooting everything low and left, and try as I might I can't correct it. Before the chemo the 17 would put all of my bullets where I wanted them to go.
I ended up with a CZ 75 SP01 that has a hammer and is easier for me to hit with.

[Petrol & Powder]

I'll second the, "In terms of BS per square meter, the Glock has caused some of the deepest accumulations ever discovered in the venues of arms journalism. "

The amount of outright lies told about Glocks is almost impossible to comprehend. There are people out there that hate Glocks so much that they will say anything they can to slander the Glock.

As for the case bulge, I've never seen it from my pistols or the pistols of the people I shoot with. I pick up and reload all of the brass I can find and if it's a problem it has yet to become apparent to me.

There are a lot of aftermarket parts for Glocks and NONE of them are needed. Glocks remind me of VW beetles, 32 Ford Coupes or 1911 pistols, they're fine stock but everyone thinks you need to change stuff to somehow make them better.

[emorris]

+1 on plated being ok in Glocks. Lead cast is also ok in my experience, especially in 45 acp. Most of what I shoot is the Lee 401-175 TC in my 40 S&W and the Lee 452-230TC in the 45s. I did switch to powder coating for the only reason being less smoke and no bullet lube to clean afterwards.

The Glock brass bulge issue seems to be an issue for earlier 40 S&W and 10mm guns. I don't recall ever hearing of this issue with the 45 acp guns. When I started law enforcement Officers in my department were issued Gen 2 Glock 22s. After years of picking up brass, by hand, after qualifications I have never seen one that had what I would call the "Glock Belly". Yes the brass was expanded more than others that were shot in different manufactures. I think that its due to the pressure involved and the way the chamber is cut. 45 acp roughly 21,000 psi/ 40 S&W roughly 35,000 psi. I cant recall what 10mm runs at, but I imagine its in the neighborhood of what 40 S&W runs at.

[tazman]

First off, Glock pistols are ugly. That said, I don't mind ugly if it works reliably and shoots accurately. Glocks have a reputation for both. And I won't be looking at the gun when I am using it, just the sights.
I have never owned one. I have shot them at the range a few times to try them out. I have issues with the triggers but I think a person could get used to them after a time.
As you can probably tell, I am a bit uncertain what I want to do about them. For what I do, I really don't need another handgun to buy magazines for even if it is in the same caliber I already own.
They do make a couple of pistols I find very interesting and might buy one in the future though.

[LUCKYDAWG13]

Well I bought it for two reasons 1 just to scrat ch in itch and was wanting a higher capacity 45 for the house that I could add a light to and when I came across this at such a great price I just couldn't refuse

[glockfan]

for some reasons the 21 is the easiest for many to achieve good results from the get go.
must be related to the 18.000 psi 45acp round ; more of a push back than a muzzle flip.

i'm a glock guy in and out.till recently,was owning glock of all calibers only . some for CCW,and some as game guns.

the only,really,only aspect that need teakings is the trigger...and when i say that, i only mean it when it comes to competitions ; performing well while keeping the fast pace of highly mod'ed 2011'S,IF YOU'RE NOT bob vogel,some tweaking may be required ,but are very easy to achieves without removing any of it's reliability safety.

i ZEV TECH'ed 4 of my standard class guns,all safeties are intact,and those guns are as reliable as they were out the box. some of my other glocks are left intact, my G23 and G19 are CCW units.

here s some pics for you if you don't mind.

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[cwlongshot]

I have a few of them too. I like them for what they are. one thing I always change is springs. I trust Wolfe springs and change them out in most every firearm I need perfect reliability from. Something else I like is a metat guide rod. But that's about it for internals. Skate board grip tape is a plus. Some don't like it on there hyde, doesn't bother me any.

I have a G35 that I have changed out almost everything... Its very reliable in matches but would never ever get carried.

I have carried a G23 daily for most of the last 20 years.

I bought my 21 to get another big bore frame for my 10mm's. But the 45 shoots very nice. Its lived as a 45 for the last few months. My wife likes it best of all my Glocks. Even tho she has very small hands. She shoots it well. Even shot it in a few bullseye matches!

Good luck,
CW

[44MAG#1]

Although my most favorite semi-auto is the 1911; I still carry a Glock 21 or 30 at least 98 percent of the time.


Again I mean no harm, hurt or anguish by my statement. I am not trolling, baiting or calling out anyone. My statement is based on my knowledge and/or my experience and/or information.

[Texas by God]

I'm not much on Glocks but I like the 21 and my brother's new G40 long slide 10 millimeter is amazing.

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[Char-Gar]

There are a lot of aftermarket parts for Glocks and NONE of them are needed. Glocks remind me of VW beetles, 32 Ford Coupes or 1911 pistols, they're fine stock but everyone thinks you need to change stuff to somehow make them better.

There are makers and sellers of after market parts, that create a market for a needless product. The various gun writers aid and abet these folks by helping to create demand for these needless products. As a consequence, these needless parts become "must have" parts.

[JoeJames]

I hate a heavy trigger. I put a Ghost trigger in mine years ago. It's claimed to drop it down to 3 1/2 pounds, but I reckon they measured it at the trigger tip. Mine is down to 4 pounds, and I can kind of live with that. Seems like it was @$10. A Glock really does exemplify the phrase "A gun is just a tool". Not a fine blued Smith or Colt with nice grips ... but it runs and runs. After I put the trigger bar in mine, it surprised me how accurate it was.
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[EMC45]

I like my G36. Other than Trijicon tritium sights it is stock standard.

[FergusonTO35]

Gospel truth right there!

CW

Yes, indeed. I think Glock's biggest strength is that they have been refining the same gun for almost 40 years, unlike other makers who start from scratch every decade or so (yeah, I'm talking to you Ruger). Which always comes with the inevitable bugs of any new design.

[charlie b]

I wish I liked the Glock grip. I've tried many times but it just doesn't work for me. They feel like I am holding onto 1x2 lumber.

I am considering one of the single stacks for concealed carry. Can't justify it right now since my current pistol is reliable and accurate.

[Plate plinker]

Welcome to the dark side. The guns work if you do your part. I love the 21 and the 19.

[LUCKYDAWG13]

I did replace the recoil spring with a steel one from Wolf

[Remmy4477]

I carry a G19.
Built it last year. Started with a stripped frame added a lower parts kit (stock), tumble polished the trigger bar and such, Added a lone wolf slide and barrel. Night sights.

Happy!

[FergusonTO35]

I think the 42 is the sweetest Glock of all.

[osteodoc08]

I have no problem with glocks. They’re reliable, accurate, and tons of aftermarket support. As a company they support the shooing world. They started a movement towards polymer autos and have been the cornerstone there. But there are newer designs as well that compete at high levels against Glock, successfully. I’ve got a few and enjoy them very much.

[Lonegun1894]

I have several Glocks, but still prefer a 1911 or revolver. However, I carry a Glock as my primary on duty, so it has grown on me. I will get flak for this, but I see Glocks as tools, as someone else said. So I started with a Glock for duty use, and got a second to keep in my bail out bag, and then a third that I got cheap cause it was a trade-in to use for a fishing/kayaking pistol that's just my beater. Y'all get the idea. I think they're ugly, but work great, even if mine aren't quite as accurate as my 1911s. However, the Lone Wolf barrels I have put in a couple of them definitely improve the accuracy, which was serviceable before, but is closer to my 1911s now than what the stock Glocks were before the change.

[nicholst55]

Here's a picture that shows how Glock .40 S&W chambers have changed. Brass is still not quite as well supported as in some aftermarket barrels, but things are much improved. I never found a bulged case from my Gen4 G22 while I owned it. The .40 S&W cartridge just doesn't excite me, so I haven't kept a gun chambered for it for very long to date. Guess I should have installed a .357 Sig barrel in the G22 and tried that, but oh well.

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[Texas by God]

A single column .357 Sig would make me consider owning another Glock.

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[LUCKYDAWG13]

I did ad a light to it a streamlight TLR1 so i think its GTG for my nightstand and a magazine full of gold dots

[W.R.Buchanan]

When you consider that about 65% of all Military and law enforcement agencies carry Glocks they must be doing something right.

I have 4 of them a G21SF a G36 (.45 ACP's) and a G35 and G23 (.40's)and I have a Conversion barrel for the G23 to be able to shoot 9mm if necessary.

I have all these guns set up the same way with a G35 Slide Release and Extended Mag Releases, Dawson or Truglo Sights.

I shoot the G21 best of all. G23 and 35 next. Haven't shot the G36 that much but I'm going to take it to a Front Sight Class next Month so it will get shot a bunch.

With that One Shot Pistol Brace that G23 is a 100 yard gun!

These guns are tools. They are not pretty. (except in the eye of the beholder)

They are arguably the best Combat Pistols ever made, and that is saying something,,, but there is no dispute whatsoever about the fact that they are the easiest pistol to learn on. You can only do three things to a Glock.
1. Insert Magazine, 2. Rack Slide, 3. Pull Trigger.

That's why they are superior Combat Weapons,,, less to think about when it matters..

Randy

[Lonegun1894]

Randy,
You’re right about the Glock being a good fighting gun. But that isn’t the only reason why they are popular in LE. For example, as a Texas peace officer, i can go to a dealer that participated in Glock’s LE program, and get the same Gen3 G22 that would cost me around $550ish without my ID card and pay right around $400 for it. Now if my agency buys it for me, they pay closer to $350. Feel free to confirm this at any “Blue Label” dealer. Cabelas does this, GT Distributors, does too, and MANY others. A big part of the popularity is the lower cost as compared to most other brands. It doesn’t take away from the effectiveness and quality, but let’s face it, Glock did an excellent job in marketing too.

[MtnGunner]

It took me some time to warm up to my Glocks, transition from1911s was tough because the Glocks pointed so differently. I had one of the early .40s that bulged cases, and sold it, but I love the 9mms I have. I eventually got used to the grip angle and shoot them very well.

[Petrol & Powder]

Glock's marketing has always been aggressive, probably out of necessity.

If you want to read an interesting book concerning the Glock pistols I can recommend "Glock, The rise of America's Gun" by Paul Barrett.


And by the way, Glock wasn't the first polymer framed pistol. The first polymer framed pistol was the H&K VP-70, not exactly a mainstream gun. The Glock was the first truly successful polymer framed gun in the commercial market.

One of the things that helped Gaston Glock succeed was the fact that he was not constrained by the conventional dogma of pistol design. His lack of firearm's experience allowed him to approach problems from different angles and come up with solutions. We've seen this many times throughout history. Innovators push the envelope. John Browning's designs were radical in their day. Colt's designs were a departure from the norm. Bill Ruger's manufacturing methods gave him an edge.

[beemer]

I traded for an almost new 17 about 30 years ago, still have it box and all. Being a revolver guy I looked at it sideways for a while but finally realized what it was. It is a simple to operate and reliable fighting pistol.

I have not poured rounds through it but get it out occasionally and fire a clip or two, it's not been carried more than a dozen times. The pistol has been 100% reliable using mostly FMJ and a few HP"s I have loaded but has not been rode hard and put up wet.

The only complaint I have is the grips, I don't have large hands and the Glock is on the large side. I added a grip sleeve, made it bigger but the tacky rubber and the finger grooves made it easier to hold. Other than that the pistol is like the day it was made.

Might be a revolver guy but for some reason I have more auto's than revolvers, oh well.

Dave

[JoeJames]

Randy,
You’re right about the Glock being a good fighting gun. But that isn’t the only reason why they are popular in LE. For example, as a Texas peace officer, i can go to a dealer that participated in Glock’s LE program, and get the same Gen3 G22 that would cost me around $550ish without my ID card and pay right around $400 for it. Now if my agency buys it for me, they pay closer to $350. Feel free to confirm this at any “Blue Label” dealer. Cabelas does this, GT Distributors, does too, and MANY others. A big part of the popularity is the lower cost as compared to most other brands. It doesn’t take away from the effectiveness and quality, but let’s face it, Glock did an excellent job in marketing too.The Blue Label deal also applies to prosecutors and judges. Check their website.

[jmort]

Met a retired LEO who was the Glock sales rep for midwest area. He said the same thing, marketing to LEOs was a big part of the "plan."

[Lonegun1894]

The Blue Label deal also applies to prosecutors and judges. Check their website.

It’s actually even more extensive than that. But I wasn’t about to type out their entire sales pitch.

[Mytmousemalibu]

I have a minty condition G22 (.40 S&W) RTF2 with the "fish gill" slide serrations. I have a soft spot for the RTF2 guns. Mine, a Gen 3, is really hard on brass, it smiles the cases pretty bad.

The grip shape and angle is far from my favorite nor are they particularly beautiful but in a functionality and engineering point of view, they are a class act. Glock wouldn't be where they are if it wasn't a stellar product. I love how simple they are and how the parts mechanically interact with each other. Very clever design. I'm more a S&W guy but I have admiration for Glock.

I like my Glock, its fun for GSSF!

[glockfan]

seriously,who would choose any other pistols than a glock if ever your life was goin to be on the line for weeks because an out of control social chaos,or a break in the food chain? or a zombie attack?

having to protect your life and your beloved ones for a certain amount of time requires reliable,dependable tools....and glocks are just that: reliable-dependable,,and indestructible. gimme a glock and an AK for those long days watching things scrolling down.

.....aand,curiously,they're great game guns too!! not pretty(while mine are very nice now) ,but plenty accurate for the uspsa,or ipsc game .

[Handloader109]

I really don't 'Like' glocks, but they DO work. Wife bought a G17 3rd gen and has issue with racking. Added a $17 clip that I could now 3d Print (was injection molded) that tapers the rear. Makes all the difference to her. And a LW threaded barrel to use our first suppressor on. Quiet, and accurate. Good gun that works.