327 Federal Magnum

[zymguy]

Is there a box better than the mtm ?

Where do I find printed data for the heavier bullets ?

This one came out at 117 grains and I couldn’t be happier the dummy round fit !!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180805/0278b0862c854f8c1c3f772470104f6b.jpg


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[Slim Chance]

I haven't seen any printed data for the heavier bullets. I like the way that one looks!

[Wheelguns 1961]

The reloading pages of M.D. Smith has data for 115gn lead bullets.

[Hardcast]

What mold produced that boolit?

[tward]

Nice round, I’m playing with a 32-20 Contender. I just got some Dillon ammo boxes, seem better than MTM. Have fun, be safe. Tim:bigsmyl2::bigsmyl2:

[peter72]

Loaddata.com has load info up to 125gns.
I'm still waiting on dies but I have cast up a heap of 122gn gas checked hitek coated projectiles for my Henry.

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[El Bibliotecario]

I can tell you what is NOT as good as the MTM box--the Frankford brand that Midway sells, which unlike MTM boxes, will shatter when dropped filled on a concrete or tile floor (admittedly a foolish practice)

[zymguy]

What mold produced that boolit?

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[zymguy]

Haven’t shot it yet, but I made a dummy load that fits in my charter arms , and fell in love. the mould could not have worked better or easier . I sure hope I can come up with an accurate load .
Unfortunately we lost mr Keith before he could recommend how much 4227 to employ


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[zymguy]

452276 358429 and the 31-129k ( sized 314) https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180806/9b8a4c9f54bcd42c948041870884b105.jpg

a MP mold, Noe ,and Accurate


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[megasupermagnum]

I use the 100 round MTM boxes, they last decades unless you step on them.

The reason I like that bullet so much, is you can use 115 grain data for it. There were also some cast designs like the Lyman 116 grain that you will find data for. There is so much extra powder space when crimped in the crimp groove with this bullet, you shouldn't run into trouble. You cant fit enough 4227 to go over pressure with it. I forget the exact charge. Start low and work up. I'll post a link below to some data that can get you started. If you are looking for more top end loads, I've gone up to 12 grains of Accurate #9, and that shot well.

https://loaddata.com/articles/PDF/LD-13%20Pearce%20LR1.pdf

[trapper9260]

I use the 100 round MTM boxes, they last decades unless you step on them.

The reason I like that bullet so much, is you can use 115 grain data for it. There were also some cast designs like the Lyman 116 grain that you will find data for. There is so much extra powder space when crimped in the crimp groove with this bullet, you shouldn't run into trouble. You cant fit enough 4227 to go over pressure with it. I forget the exact charge. Start low and work up. I'll post a link below to some data that can get you started. If you are looking for more top end loads, I've gone up to 12 grains of Accurate #9, and that shot well.

https://loaddata.com/articles/PDF/LD-13%20Pearce%20LR1.pdf

Thank you for the link.That is what I been looking for in a long time and could not find anything like that.

[GhostHawk]

I too prefer the MTM boxes. I have tried both the Frankford Arsenal and Plano boxes. But as noted above if dropped by a fumble fingered fool they break. Spilled my brand new shiny .45 colt rounds all over the parking lot.

[Hardcast]

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Thanks much. I see on the Accurate Molds website that it has a .35" crimp groove to meplat. I'm wondering if that will be too long a nose for some guns. Good looking boolit though. :)

[Green Frog]

There is a relatively small outfit called J&J that makes kind of a shadow line of products that are like the MTM, Midway and others, but less expensive when I find them at gun shows. Most are a clear translucent material that seems to be pretty durable. The best thing about them is that the box they make for 32-20 and 30 carbine also is close to a perfect fit for even the longest 327s.

I'm loading some NOE 3114008s (that run 125 grains) over Accurate #7. They didn't have a recommended load listed on their website so I took the lightest load they listed for the 115 and used that. This gives a fairly stout load, but no pressure signs, and it seems to be consistent. The downside is that Accurate #7 doesn't seem to perform well at reduced loadings so you don't get to back way off and still get good (consistent) results.

Froggie

[megasupermagnum]

The .35" long nose is too much for the single seven unless seated deep. With the Henry rifles, it's just a tiny bit too long, about .020" too long. You could either trim the brass that little bit, or load in H&R brass, or seat deep. I chose a fourth option, and modified my rifle to shoot them. Every other handgun is just fine, and even my LCR could chamber a bullet with a .400" nose, although with very little room.

[Hardcast]

There is a relatively small outfit called J&J that makes kind of a shadow line of products that are like the MTM, Midway and others, but less expensive when I find them at gun shows. Most are a clear translucent material that seems to be pretty durable. The best thing about them is that the box they make for 32-20 and 30 carbine also is close to a perfect fit for even the longest 327s.

I'm loading some NOE 3114008s (that run 125 grains) over Accurate #7. They didn't have a recommended load listed on their website so I took the lightest load they listed for the 115 and used that. This gives a fairly stout load, but no pressure signs, and it seems to be consistent. The downside is that Accurate #7 doesn't seem to perform well at reduced loadings so you don't get to back way off and still get good (consistent) results.

Froggie

Froggie,
I went to the J&J website and cannot find any cartridge boxes listed for 32-20 or 30 Carbine. What is the product number on the boxes your are talking about? Thanks

[Hardcast]

The .35" long nose is too much for the single seven unless seated deep. With the Henry rifles, it's just a tiny bit too long, about .020" too long. You could either trim the brass that little bit, or load in H&R brass, or seat deep. I chose a fourth option, and modified my rifle to shoot them. Every other handgun is just fine, and even my LCR could chamber a bullet with a .400" nose, although with very little room.

That is good to know about the rifle. I modified my Marlin 44 mag to feed Keith cast bolts, but had not heard of anyone doing the mod to Henrys.
Thanks for the info.

[zymguy]

Froggie,
I went to the J&J website and cannot find any cartridge boxes listed for 32-20 or 30 Carbine. What is the product number on the boxes your are talking about? Thanks

I couldn't find it either.
I have a lot of the MTM boxes in different sizes colors and hinges, Id be nice to find some that are a little better fit and obviously different than my 357 boxes by size.

[zymguy]

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This one measures 1.525


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[megasupermagnum]

How long is your brass? I always trim to 1.190", and load that bullet to an OAL of 1.545".

[zymguy]

How long is your brass? I always trim to 1.190", and load that bullet to an OAL of 1.545".

its unfired starline 1.190" I must be stuffing them 0.02 deeper ?

[megasupermagnum]

I assume you can't crimp at that length, 1.545" is about perfect to crimp in the groove.

[zymguy]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180807/7d32461daf36c1c6849cb78bf6e13e07.jpgid call it a light crimp, but I think .020 further up the grove is possible https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180807/9ab6eca981090f70e14813308644bb98.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180807/e7a2733964ce8f3e2c866ea58c0204d7.jpg


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[megasupermagnum]

That isn't crimped properly in the groove. Try them at 1.545", and the lip of the case will be narrower than the front driving band.

[zymguy]

That isn't crimped properly in the groove. Try them at 1.545", and the lip of the case will be narrower than the front driving band.

The lee seating die will need to be set up all over again when i go to reload these bullets. Ill seat the bullet taller as you suggest, i can see im not in the sweet spot of the crimp grove. This was just a quick and dirty through the sizer die for both the new starline brass and the keith then i tested my new lee 32 h&R expander die on the 327 case finally i wanted to see if this bullet would fit in my charter arms before i powdercoated the 15# id cast . I could not be happier with the mould thank you again !!!