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mattw
07-24-2018, 11:44 AM
First off, will get pics this weekend... It looks to be an Enfield style action, buttstock is attached to the rear of the action. Magazine is missing and it is fairly rough. The finish is the old black paint looking stuff. What confused me is that all of the writing on the barrel is in some asian language... I cannot see any caliber information under the **** that it is coated with.

Again, will get some pics this weekend. Just looking for ideas of what it may be.

Thanks Matt

Reverend Al
07-24-2018, 01:16 PM
Sounds like it's definitely a rifle of some sort ... other than that without some photos it's all just idle speculation ...

mattw
07-24-2018, 02:04 PM
I know... speculation will give me pics to look at before the weekend. It does not seem that there are many old bolt guns with a separate butt stock.

Texas by God
07-24-2018, 02:08 PM
I'm going to go with number 4 Enfield.

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Reverend Al
07-24-2018, 02:26 PM
Well, if we are going to play "40 questions" ...

IF it does turn out to be an Enfield in .303 British is the rear sight an open sight that is mounted on the barrel (No. 1) or is the rear sight an aperture / peep sight mounted on the back of the receiver (No. 4)? After that point if you could supply some photos of the action, barrel, and any markings it would go a LONG way to identifying what you have ...

mattw
07-24-2018, 02:31 PM
Just looked at some detail shots, I think it is an SMLE No. 1 Mk. III, based on the trigger group, the receiver bridge and the forward mounted sites. Needs a ton of clean up and inspection, will also have to find 303 go/no-go gauge and check the bore. I have a No. 4 Mk. I and knew that was not it. Will post pics! I am just not sure why there is Asian roll stamping on the barrel. This is what really threw me off.

Hardcast416taylor
07-24-2018, 02:43 PM
Just looked at some detail shots, I think it is an SMLE No. 1 Mk. III, based on the trigger group, the receiver bridge and the forward mounted sites. Needs a ton of clean up and inspection, will also have to find 303 go/no-go gauge and check the bore. I have a No. 4 Mk. I and knew that was not it. Will post pics! I am just not sure why there is Asian roll stamping on the barrel. This is what really threw me off.

Could be from India.Robert

EMC45
07-24-2018, 02:56 PM
Could be from India.Robert

I too was thinking Ishapore.

mattw
07-24-2018, 03:08 PM
I wondered about that... I will get pics this weekend and check to see if it is 303 brit or 308.

TNsailorman
07-24-2018, 03:15 PM
Is it Chinese writing? China was buying anything they could get their hands on when the Japanese invaded; the U.S. provided a bunch of 1917 Enfields. Mauser and British Enfield from anyone who would sell. After WW II they got a huge number of Japanese rifles and converted many of them to 8mm mauser but also left some in 6.5 or 7.7 as they had a large quantity of surrendered Japanese ammo. The "Burmese" theater was really interesting. A lot of the Special Ops tactics and forces of the Vietnam War was based on that campaign. james

Adam Helmer
07-24-2018, 04:32 PM
matt,

Pictures would be nice to aid in our inquiry. There are many savvy folks here and the mystery will be solved pronto.

Adam

mozeppa
07-24-2018, 04:46 PM
thank you bill cullen ...and the questioning moves to kitty carlisle!

webfoot10
07-24-2018, 04:54 PM
Could be from India.Robert
Or could be a Kyber Pass special, as they copyied a lot of the British and other countries weapons.

leebuilder
07-24-2018, 06:05 PM
Siamesss no1?

Uncle Grinch
07-24-2018, 07:10 PM
Pictures...... that will answer the question.

Multigunner
07-25-2018, 03:56 AM
Afghanistan and some neighboring states bought commercially manufactured BSA SMLE rifles with markings and rear sight range numerals in their native language.

If its an old Afghan contract SMLE even in relic condition it might have collector interest.
If the bore is good and you restore it to original condition you'd really have something out of the ordinary.

Doug Humbarger
08-18-2018, 10:21 PM
Photos please.

mattw
08-19-2018, 12:45 AM
It is a no.1 mark 3. Gotta find wood for her.