just found a jewel... star 9mm Largo.

[mozeppa]

went to my home state of oklahoma to visit all my kin.

was forced to go to a flea market....while there i found a table that had a dozen or so rifles and shotguns...a .25 acp beat to death...and a .38 s&w top break, also pretty bad.

while looking i spotted a star auto in 9mm Largo in the original box with cleaning rod and all the old paperwork inside , so i checked it over.
90% of the original blue is still there. it looked like somebody bought it for protection and literally left it in the night stand since 1953 when it was made. oh and only fired twice from the original first box of ammo.
(ammo made in spain also)

bought it for $325 ...took it to the range to see if it would fire ....nope.

so much dust had built up on the firing pin that it barely dented the primer cap.

there is NO wear on it internally anywhere ...just dry as a popcorn f^rt from never being cleaned or oiled.

gutted it and cleaned it like never before ...lightly oiled the parts.
now it runs like a swiss watch!

just got today 3000 starline 9mm Largo brass.

anyone know where to get Largo load info?

[bob208]

type in 9 m/m largo home page. they have loads listed. I use .38 acp loads. I like 124 gr. Remington golden saber bullets. also rcbs 124 gr. truncated cone bullets.

I have two both surplus one I never fired the other I have shot a lot sometime I carry it and never thought I was under gunned.

[RED BEAR]

i loved my star 9 mm ( bkm) untill my brother barrowed it and decided that i gave it to him. boy what is family for. figured it wasn't worth bad blood in family as it wasn't coming back anyway but lesson learned i do not have anything else he needs to borrow!

[Der Gebirgsjager]

Star -- great pistols. Which model did you get?

[mozeppa]

Star -- great pistols. Which model did you get?

modelo super in 9mm largo with all the upgrades from 1946 to 1953 when it was made.

[Der Gebirgsjager]

Super is a good one. So, the butt should be stamped "A Super". Yes?

[Mr Peabody]

The Speer manual has good info and I think the Sierra manual. Don't ask me yet which ones. The last Speer manual or Sierra manual has been a few years ago. 38 ACP is pretty safe info too.

[rintinglen]

Speer number 13 has info. If you can't find it, start with 9 mm Luger data and nudge upward until you get good function. That worked for me years ago when they were imported quantity. I haven't shot mine for a few years, but I love the feel and balance. In my hand of that gun.

[mozeppa]

mine is stamped only super on the butt.

i read on the web that modelo super b was made in luger and modelo a was made in largo.

some have "A" on the butt and some don't.

[Der Gebirgsjager]

That is exactly correct. I was just curious-- some do, some don't.

Reason for curiosity: Lots of years ago, I'm guessing about 25, a member of another board who was in the pistol magazine sales business (or maybe that was just part of his business) and was well known for his expertise told me that there was no such thing as a Super in 9 Largo, that they were all in 9 Luger. I told him that I had two on my desk in front of me, and that they were stamped with an "A" on the butt. I think that there are fewer without than with. Not all Super Model B pistols are stamped with a "B" on the butt either, but many are. About 10 years ago I acquired a BS, learning that the "S" means that it has the safety feature with the magazine removed. I have never encountered an AS, but assume that they exist. Stars are great pistols and I carry a regular B model.

[Char-Gar]

went to my home state of oklahoma to visit all my kin.

was forced to go to a flea market....while there i found a table that had a dozen or so rifles and shotguns...a .25 acp beat to death...and a .38 s&w top break, also pretty bad.

while looking i spotted a star auto in 9mm Largo in the original box with cleaning rod and all the old paperwork inside , so i checked it over.
90% of the original blue is still there. it looked like somebody bought it for protection and literally left it in the night stand since 1953 when it was made. oh and only fired twice from the original first box of ammo.
(ammo made in spain also)

bought it for $325 ...took it to the range to see if it would fire ....nope.

so much dust had built up on the firing pin that it barely dented the primer cap.

there is NO wear on it internally anywhere ...just dry as a popcorn f^rt from never being cleaned or oiled.

gutted it and cleaned it like never before ...lightly oiled the parts.
now it runs like a swiss watch!

just got today 3000 starline 9mm Largo brass.

anyone know where to get Largo load info?

I would not announce on the internet, that I bought a handgun in a state where I did not reside.

[Harry O]

The Starline brass is the best thing that has happened to 9mm Largo owners since they were being sold for less than $20 through the mail back in the 1950's. The first one I shot was an Astra belonging to my Uncle. I got one shortly after. After a short while, the 9mm Largo ammunition they were selling with the guns dried up. The Largo brass was Berdan primed and not reloadable (for all practical purposes). I started reloading with .38ACP and .38 Super brass. Later I tried some Winchester 9x23 with mixed luck (OK with the Astra, but not the Star). The Starline has solved the brass problem. Since way back then, I have added a couple of Stars, one in Largo and one in Luger.

I use the EXACT same bullet, powder, and powder amount in my 9mm Largo handloads as I do in my 9mm Luger handloads. The only difference is the brass. From my limited experience, the Stars have tighter chambers than the Astras. I have an Uncle who has had an Astra in 9mm Largo for 45 or 50 years. I doubt that he has ever fired anything other than 9mm Luger in it. I gave him a few boxes of factory 9mm Largo brass a few Christmases back.

[bob208]

if you have the means to trim. check the price of 9m/m mag. brass it is cheaper. I have also turned the rim off of .38 super.

[Texas by God]

.38 Super BOOK data will work fine.

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[lar45]

I cut a small step in the hood to take a 38 super's semi-rim. I had to tweak the feedlips a little, but now it shoots 38 super as well as Largo. Mine is the Modelo Super.

[mozeppa]

I would not announce on the internet, that I bought a handgun in a state where I did not reside.

i went there to live ....and am house hunting now.... and you can privately sell any gun you have there to anyone else without any paper work at all.

there were 6 tables in all that had firearms on them for sale. (almost bought a 22 l.r. rolling block...but he wouldn't come down any...so no.)

[Texas by God]

i went there to live ....and am house hunting now.... and you can privately sell any gun you have there to anyone else without any paper work at all.

there were 6 tables in all that had firearms on them for sale. (almost bought a 22 l.r. rolling block...but he wouldn't come down any...so no.)
Great score and welcome to the Reddest of the Red states! Enjoy the freedom. I love Okie-land.

[gpidaho]

Well OK. may be the reddest, I'm not sure. Idaho is a pretty gun friendly spot and the state government tries it's best to trust both it's citizens and business interests in respect to gun sales. I've both bought and sold firearms at yard sales.
Gp

[Drm50]

I have had a few Stars in 9mm Largo. All the brass I had was Berdan primed. I went the 38 super
Rim thin route, worked fine. Had Star And Spanish Destroyer carbine both 9 largo. Both shot
well with cast. Shot 130gr RN. There are quite a few other pistols that used Largo, it is the same
as several others of the period. Bergman Baynard, Astra, Styer Hahn, to name a few.

[bruce drake]

I use 38ACP loads in my Modelo Super for plinking but I have also reloaded them with 9mm Luger load data as well. Both work for me.

[Harry O]

Something I remembered that might help someone here. Back when I got my Stars, I spent some time at the gunshow table of a guy who specialized in magazines. He had 4 magazines for Stars: 1) A model, 2) B model, 3) Super A model, and 4) Super B model. All four were different from each other. He told me that sometimes magazines from different models would work in others, but you could never be sure what would work with what.

One of the four was in considerably less supply and cost much more than the others (I think it was the B model, pre WWII in 9mm Luger). It was easy to tell the difference between the A models and the B models. The lips on the Largo magazines were shorter than the lips on the Luger models. I don't remember for sure what the difference between the early (non-Super) and the late (Super) models were. I think it was something to do with the notch that locked it into the gun.

He indicated that most of the magazines could be altered to increase the odds of it working in a different model gun, but the best thing to do was to get the correct magazine. He also said that a lot of problems people had with feeding trouble was because they had the wrong magazine. Unfortunately, I noticed that a lot of other sellers had ones that were incorrectly labeled (or would say it would fit all) after being taught the differences.

Another thing was the Winchester 9mmx23 brass I mentioned. The only reason I tried it was because I found a few hundred cases on a gunshow table that were cheap. However, Stars have fairly tight chambers. At least tighter than the Astra. The W9x23 would work for the most part in the Astra, but had a lot of problems in the Star. After a lot of measuring, I found that the diameter of the cases was 0.001" too large just ahead of the extractor groove. I rigged up a way to take that down and shot them in the Stars. After Starline became available, I shot up the W9x23 and never went back.

[dougader]

Data is listed in both Speer 14 and 15, as well as Sierra 5th.

I would not use any of the 38 Super +P data listed in the Speer manuals, and none of the max loads for 9mm Luger. Some starting loads for 9mm Luger are above max listed for 9mm Largo, some are not...