Our government in action

[Boaz]

Last year I bought a 1 and 2 gallon gas can at Walmart . It's the first 'new' style 'SAFTY" gas cans I have bought . They were pure junk and a torment to use . Have to stand there 10 min while this thing strangled , gurgled and choked to put out a pee size stream of gas . I was tormented all summer by them .

I got money says it took 200 college educated idiots a year to engineer these screwed up pieces of trash . I'd like to see the statistics as to see how many lives have been saved by forcing us to use these things .

I unscrewed the spout off and with a screwdriver ripped the flapper out of the bottom then pulled a spring and rod out . It turned it old style and just took a min . I'll has to find a cap to go over the end of the spout but I don't see that hard to do .

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[Adam20]

There is a thread in outdoorsman section here about kits the thread and is, 5 years of gas can hell

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/forumdisplay.php?104-Prepper-Talk

[lancem]

Boaz!!! It was saving us all, we're doomed... I'm pretty sure it was to also help keep the fuel from evaporating and polluting the air too!!! Next time look at your favorite online seller for water can replacement spout, comes with a handy and easy to install air valve so the gas, I mean water won't glug glug out but come out fast and easy like the ol'days!! :)

[RED BEAR]

Be careful you are about to have an army of federal employees from epa homeland security FBI and since gas has chemicals in it the dea like a swarm of locust. They may be over head with drones and black helicopters as I write this. All for your own good. Oh lord now that I warned you they are probably coming for me too.

[D Crockett]

Boaz if your spout is the same size as the one I had to put a cap on that is a easy fix go get a pvc end cap it worked for me D Crockett

[legend 550]

I bought some conversion kits off Ebay. Drill a 1/2 inch hole at the top and install a push in vent and a new nozzle with cap.

[frkelly74]

I am cherishing my old cans that I have had for 20 or so years. I will confess to drilling out several of those water saving aerators that they have to put on all the faucet sets just to save a few minutes filling up the coffee pot.

[anthont1]

I just ordered a 20 pack of the vents you can add on. I am starting over on gas cans after someone stole everyone I owned and the gas in them. They took them out of my garage. Boaz If they would help you I can send some to you once I get them in. cost almost identical wether I bought 1 or 20. Supposed to be here 1 to 2 weeks. I do not have the replacement spouts but I am hoping that the vents will be enough to get me by for now.

[rl69]

I have a water bottle on the end of mine,works great

[MaryB]

I saved the spouts off the old cans as the plastic failed(Minnesota cold/hot cycle cracks them eventually... I have one new style, looked today and it is collapsed because you can't vent it unless the cap is loose). Hate those new press and hold this lever thing and use this spout 6 inches long to try and fill my lawnmower that holds 5 gallons of gas. Always spilled and made a mess so the spout was tossed then I turned it into mulch when I ran over it mowing LOL I was at my wits end with it.

[JBinMN]

be careful you are about to have an army of federal employees from epa homeland security fbi and since gas has chemicals in it the dea like a swarm of locust. They may be over head with drones and black helicopters as i write this. All for your own good. Oh lord now that i warned you they are probably coming for me too.

Funny! ( but in these times ya never know, do ya?. ;) )
:)

[imashooter2]

Boaz!!! It was saving us all, we're doomed... I'm pretty sure it was to also help keep the fuel from evaporating and polluting the air too!!! Next time look at your favorite online seller for water can replacement spout, comes with a handy and easy to install air valve so the gas, I mean water won't glug glug out but come out fast and easy like the ol'days!! :)

500 times more goes into the air from spills out of those lousy designs than ever got lost to evaporation from the old cans.

[Shopdog]

Imashooter,kidding aside.... that's the sad part.

[abunaitoo]

The story I've heard about gas cans.
I think the company was Blitz.
They got sued by some idiot, that poured gas, from the can, into a fire. The flame went up the pour, can exploded, and he got badly burned.
The government claimed the can was a faulty because it could explode.
It cost them $2.5 million to win the case. But they still had others suits to deal with.
On top of that, the liability insurance rate went sky high.
I think they are now out of business.
The solution for other gas can makers, was to redesign the spout so it would only pour when pushed into a spout, and pressing a lever at the same time.
Thinking was that both hands were used, but three hands were needed to pour without pushing into a spout.
It's suppose to be some kind of flame arrester.
It didn't work.
In 2015 another lawsuit was filed, by another idiot that poured into a fire.
This time Walmart was also named in the lawsuit.
I may not be the brightest person around, but I'd think anyone with half a brain would know NOT to pour gas, from the can, directly into a fire.
To me, that is just plain stupid. And stupid should not entitle you to any reward.

[Hickory]

Are these new gas cans called, "Save the idiot" gas cans?
But as it always seems to happen, a smarter crop of idiot emerges to defeat any safety devices the government mandates.

[Frosty Boolit]

A bit pricey but built to last a lifetime in residential usage, I bought an Eagle type 1. Made in US of A too!

[Hickory]

Forgotten link.

https://www.amazon.com/eagle-type-1-gas-can/s?ie=UTF8&page=1&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Aeagle%20type%201%20gas%20can

[Adam20]

I have 3 of those eagle cans, they work great

[Boaz]

I just ordered a 20 pack of the vents you can add on. I am starting over on gas cans after someone stole everyone I owned and the gas in them. They took them out of my garage. Boaz If they would help you I can send some to you once I get them in. cost almost identical wether I bought 1 or 20. Supposed to be here 1 to 2 weeks. I do not have the replacement spouts but I am hoping that the vents will be enough to get me by for now.

anthhont1 I sincerely appreciate the offer but I'm going to have to buy several new gas cans for my shop , we run torpedo heaters during the winter using diesel and keep several gas cans . I'm going to have to buy several so wouldn't put that on you but I thank you for the offer .

[jmort]

If you live in a Pink State you may not be able to get these, but gets us right back where we started. Works well as you might expect as it is low tech like the old days. BTW, thank California for these new eco-cans. We were forced to use them years ago

http://ezpourspout.com

[6bg6ga]

Last year I bought a 1 and 2 gallon gas can at Walmart . It's the first 'new' style 'SAFTY" gas cans I have bought . They were pure junk and a torment to use . Have to stand there 10 min while this thing strangled , gurgled and choked to put out a pee size stream of gas . I was tormented all summer by them .

I got money says it took 200 college educated idiots a year to engineer these screwed up pieces of trash . I'd like to see the statistics as to see how many lives have been saved by forcing us to use these things .

I unscrewed the spout off and with a screwdriver ripped the flapper out of the bottom then pulled a spring and rod out . It turned it old style and just took a min . I'll has to find a cap to go over the end of the spout but I don't see that hard to do .

.................................................. ..............end of rant .

You actually have no one to blame but yourself for purchasing that junk. If you had looked around you would have found other more usable gas cans out there like I did that were a few years old and had some dust from sitting on the shelf. Next time check out the old hardware stores in your area. That is what I did to obtain some dated gas cans that one can easily use at a cost of probably $5-7 more each than the junk out there now.

[MrWolf]

I use the DuraFlow 14 gallon gas can pumps like a gas station pump handle. Just put it a little higher for gravity feed. Here is a link to one but not where I got mine. Hated leaving behind my first one they work so well for me.
https://www.academy.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_10051_10591_-1?gclid=Cj0KCQjwhoLWBRD9ARIsADIRaxSErYdTZfdQc2KxfV 7zRRDc5mFJ9CtcDze_Y45YAn_qiIARgSBRwtMaAmcYEALw_wcB

[Petrol & Powder]

The government rarely improves anything it touches.

As for the gas can dilemma, there are lots of solutions.
On the expensive side, there's the Jerry cans from Deutsche Optik: https://deutscheoptik.com/20-liter-jerry-can-set-of-four.html
I have a few 20 liter (about 5 gallons) and a few 5 liter cans. They are not cheap but they are about as good as they come and will last forever if you don't shoot a hole in them.

Also on the expensive side but high quality are the safety cans from Justrite : https://www.uline.com/BL_8171/Gas-Cans

On the cheaper side there are "Water spouts" available for "Water cans" that remarkably are the same size and thread pattern as the Gas can spouts? What a coincidence :-o

And the option of using an old can is still available. I found an old 2 1/2 gallon steel can with the duel screw type caps at a second hand store. The outside needed a coat of paint but the zinc lined interior was pristine. I think the entire thing cost me $10.00 for the can, a couple of new O-rings and some spray paint.

A good way to vent the plastic cans is to drill a hole in the top of the can that will accept a tire valve stem. Fish a string through the hole and out the big opening. Pull a gutted tire stem (no Schrader valve in it) back through the new hole and seat the tire stem. The little screw on plastic cap becomes the removable vent and if you lose it, they are cheap and plentiful.

[shootmore]

What can you expect from the same folks that took away strike anywhere matches and incandescent light bulbs. The first time I used one of the new gas cans I had gas all over a hot lawn mower. Now I buy every steel can at yardsales I can find.

[waksupi]

Next thing ya know, all you guys are going to be ripping the tags off of your mattresses.

[Thundarstick]

I have been using these http://www.nospill.com and like them better than the old steel cans. I have them in gas, and two of the 5 gallon diesel versions for the lawnmower and tractor. They work great for me! Heck, I wasn't even aware the government mandated this, I just thought, but this works great!

[Rick Hodges]

I have been using these http://www.nospill.com and like them better than the old steel cans. I have them in gas, and two of the 5 gallon diesel versions for the lawnmower and tractor. They work great for me! Heck, I wasn't even aware the government mandated this, I just thought, but this works great!

I have a 1.5 and 2.5 gal. versions of these. They work ok, but can be a little awkward for some applications that the old style cans worked better on. I use the 1.5 gal. for my chainsaw fuel and it works great for that application with no overfill.

[bob208]

tractor supply has nozzles for some of the older cans also I get a lot off ebay. I pick up all the old style gas cans at auctions and yard sales with missing caps and spouts.

[Petrol & Powder]

Next thing ya know, all you guys are going to be ripping the tags off of your mattresses.

Shhhhh, the mattress police might be listening. :rolleyes:

[sandman228]

yes the new style gas cans are terrible .when the wife and I use our gas points we usually take her outlander to fill up and I take a couple 5 gal cans and fill them up with whatever of our allotment wont fit in her suv . it takes about 20 min to pour 5 gal of gas from 1 of them into my f 150 . I found conversion kits for these cans at tractor supply for about 10$ a piece .

[Geezer in NH]

Converted my new style cans when I first got them. I installed a screw in tire stem into a hole drilled in the side opposite the spout ,tossed the air valve part out. Got rid of the spring **** in the nozzle of the new style spout.

To use take cap off the air stem and pour just like the old style spouts. When done put the air stem cap back on and then the block piece under the spout made from a bleach jug cut to fit.

[MaryB]

I have been using these http://www.nospill.com and like them better than the old steel cans. I have them in gas, and two of the 5 gallon diesel versions for the lawnmower and tractor. They work great for me! Heck, I wasn't even aware the government mandated this, I just thought, but this works great!

Spout is wayyyy to short to reach over the mower frame and fill the tank...

[Hannibal]

Next thing ya know, all you guys are going to be ripping the tags off of your mattresses.

I'm with the mattress police. We've had reports of missing mattress tags from this address. I'm going to have to ask you to stand aside.

[Hannibal]

Let's not forget the most feared words ever uttered :

"Don't worry. I'm with the Government, and I'm here to help. What is the nature of the problem?"

[rr2241tx]

Is it just me or has the price of gas cans gotten completely out of hand? The same, exact plastic 5 gallon jug that was <$5 with the old style spout that actually would let the gas out now has a completely inoperable spout that is angled so it won't actually fit any filler hole and cost >$25. Race cans are about the same price and come with a foot long 3/4" vinyl hose and a working vent. I like the 10 gallon ones for tractors and 5 gallon ones for mowers, ATVs, motorcycles. For a while I used a transmission funnel that I bent with a heat gun and sawed off the end to match the fill hole diameter to gas my Ranger. Nalgene caps will replace the dysfunctional spouts on new gas cans so you only need one "water can" replacement nozzle.

[Bazoo]

I have a couple nato jerry cans I use mostly. Got some plastic cans that I got caps for from here...http://ezpourspout.com/

No complaints.

[dverna]

All my gas cans are from prepping for Y2K so they work

My diesel cans are the new style and Charlie you are right....they are a total pain to use.

[Thundarstick]

Spout is wayyyy to short to reach over the mower frame and fill the tank...

Yep, I can see that. My smaller one works great on the weed eater, my tiller tank is on the top, as are the fill ports on my diesel mower tanks and tractor. I would need a funnel to fill to a vehicle tank, or if the tank was more inside the frame of the equipment.

[bdicki]

If you live in a Pink State you may not be able to get these, but gets us right back where we started. Works well as you might expect as it is low tech like the old days. BTW, thank California for these new eco-cans. We were forced to use them years ago

http://ezpourspout.com
If they won't ship to your state order the water can ones, same thing. Rural King and Tractor Supply carry them.