M1 Carbine- I want one

[Texas by God]

Well, I bought one from a coworker a few years back and owned it till my wife saw it and it's fancy red case. It's a Howa Sporter and I've not seen another. $400 well spent.
A month ago wife's cousin called and said he had a chance at a Saginaw for $400. I said buyitbuyitBuy It! It's a touch bubba'ed but no big deal. We blasted through 200 rounds at Flat Rock today. Very few misses by anybody. A couple of minor hangups with Russian steelcase but oil fixed it. Three different brands of ammo.
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[Tyguy95]

They are a wonderful gun. I've had mine for a few months now it is a complete saginaw. Shoots cast bullets with great accuracy, however I am still working on getting them to feed and extract properly.

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[Texas by God]

That's my next project- reloading the .30 Carbine.

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[3leggedturtle]

That brings back some pleasant memories. What a deal. Todd/3leg

[Jack Stanley]

Interesting sporter , I've never seen one like it either , congrats !

Jack

[Kevinakaq]

On my short list as well...just waiting for the right deal.

[beltfed]

Yrs ago, when I had my Underwood M1 carbine, I found it functioned and shot
well with the Lyman 311316 GCFN bullet that was originally intended for the 32-20.
beltfed/arnie

[kens]

.30 carbine is an underrated cartridge. it comes in a wonderfully fun gun too

[jimb16]

DON"T USE STEEL CASED AMMO IN A CARBINE! If you do, you can expect to damage the extractor! They are the most easily damaged part of a carbine. The only steel cased ammo the military allowed to be used was Evansville Chrysler ammo in soft steel and that was only allowed to be used for stateside training where extractors could be easily replaced. Some guys will tell you that they use it all the time, but I've seen too many broken extractors that are traced back to steel cases.

[ShooterAZ]

The Lyman 311359 and the RCBS 30-115SP are your friend here. The steel cased Russian ammo is not so much your friend, hard on the extractor. N-110 is the best powder I have ever used in the M1 Carbine. H110 and IMR4227 runs a close second place. I love my 30 M1, wouldn't trade it for anything in the world!

[Geezer in NH]

$400 for a Saginaw is a DEAL if all as issued.

[Bazoo]

Personally, id just go ahead and source a couple replacement extractors and enjoy the ammo savings.

By the way, my wife wants an M1 too. I like the look of the sporter, never seen anything like that.

[ShooterAZ]

And... source an M1 Carbine bolt tool too if you continue to shoot steel cased ammo, cause you'll need it!

[Texas by God]

$400 for a Saginaw is a DEAL if all as issued.Bubba cut the wings off the front sight and vee-notched the long range apeture. While he was at it he file checkered the forend. Still worth $400 IMO!
Thanks for the steel case warning, guys.

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[3006guns]

And... source an M1 Carbine bolt tool too if you continue to shoot steel cased ammo, cause you'll need it!

He's right about the bolt tool as it's difficult......almost impossible......to disassemble it otherwise.

I have an M1 carbine clone that developed a rather nasty tendency to dump the entire magazine when the trigger was pulled. Turned out the firing pin was bent, causing it to stick and voila! Uncontrollable full auto. Check that firing pin on occasion to make sure it's not stuck!

[tigweldit]

I love the M1 carbine. Short,light and deadly accurate to 200+ yards. The Lyman 311359 with H110 works well for me. I still have my Rockola that I got through the DCM for $20.00 in 1963. Since then a Winchester and a Saginaw S'G have followed me home. I didn't intentionally collect M1's, it just happened.

[ShooterAZ]

[QUOTE=3006guns;4323017]He's right about the bolt tool as it's difficult......almost impossible......to disassemble it otherwise.

It's not impossible, but unless you really like blood blisters and have a lot of time on your hands..it's totally doable! Ask me how I know... And +1 on getting some spare parts. Extractors, firing pin, etc. Fulton Armory is a good source for parts for the M1 Carbine.

[texasnative46]

To All,

In the "FWIW Department", I was told by a CMP guy that the CMP has received another large load of carbines in from a Filipino storage facility. = NOT yet unpacked out of the sealed crates, btw.
(I don't particularly like the .30 carbine for hunting anything bigger than our TX coyotes, so I don't have a dog in the fight but I thought some here would like to know.)

The ONLY M1 carbine that I'd like to acquire is a Johnson in his .22 Spitfire wildcat. = I think that one of his "paratrooper carbines" would be quite handy.
(I've "toyed about with" finding a service-able M1 carbine receiver, a NICE-quality replica GI folding "paratrooper" stock, the other required parts & then having a GI-clone barrel made in the .22 CF round but haven't gotten around to it.)

One reason that I've never "gotten around to" that project is my fondness for the Remington Model 7615P in 5.56 NATO that is about the same size & in a more potent caliber.

yours, tex

[samari46]

Bought a Saginaw Sg years back for $500. Stock had seen better days. Dealer lady right behind the guy I got the carbine from fixed me up with an unissued beech or birch stock and handguard. Fun to shoot and there is always someone who has never shot one so usually end up letting them shoot mine. Only had one guy do it rapid fire. Told him no more free rides. Range officer who the shooter was and he almost lost his range rights. I usually go through about 100 rds of PMC I've had for years. Frank

[MDC]

I had an IBM that my grandfather gave me. As a stupid teenager, I traded it away for a remote control race car. (I can't believe I just admitted that in public) Over the years I remembered it being fun to shoot and desired another but never found one I felt was affordable.
A few years ago I ran across a commercial carbine for a good price that included several mags and a fair amount of ammo so I grabbed it up. It sat in my safe until this past Dec when I finally took it to our lease. I had picked up an additional 200 rounds on the way out of town. Long story short, I now have about 500 rounds of empty brass. They are an absolute blast to shoot!
I bought a 311359 from a member a couple months ago and was gifted about another 150 pieces of brass from another member. I cast up a few hundred boolits and decided to powder coated them to keep the gas system cleaner, just need to get them stuffed back in the cases.
I don't really care for the bright colored powder coat and was playing around with a copper color. I ended up throwing in some black and they look like dirty grease. I'm not crazy about the aluminium gas checks but they'll do until they're gone. Can't wait to get them loaded, it's gonna be a hoot!
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[EMC45]

Been finding a bunch of once fired .30 Carbine at the range......Been picking it all up too. I may "need" to get a carbine.

[10-x]

Carbine prices have gone through the roof, check gun shows. Several mfgs are making repros, have not heard good reports on them. The days of $20-$100 Carbines are long gone, collectors have " normal prices" close to $1000 +, -. The harder to find mfg ones can bring over $2000 in excellent condition. Shame CMP ammo about doubled in price......

[Char-Gar]

When the DCM was selling these for about $20.00 back in the early 60's, I bought one. It turned out to be a good Rockola. I loaded for it and shot it for a three years, but never could develop a fondness for it. So, I sold it down river in 1965 and that was that. I have not had a desire for another one.

[Der Gebirgsjager]

Ahhh.....M1 Carbines. My odyssey with them also began in the mid-'60s with a purchase from the DCM. Also $ 20, plus shipping if memory serves, and showed up via a Railway Express delivery truck. It was a Standard Products model, and while I was awaiting its arrival I chanced to find a barrel full of them in the Lawn and Garden section of Newberry's Department Store for $32.50 each. I picked out one I liked and put it on layaway (was making $1.50 per hr. at the time), so when the DCM carbine showed up I found that I had two Standards. In the 80's I bought 3 more, a Winchester when the Blue Sky Productions imports hit the market, an Iver Johnson, and an American Military Armaments version. All were/are great fun to shoot and highly accurate at reasonable ranges, except the AMAC which never shot well until I mounted a Ultimak scope mount in place of the top hand guard. The IJ model was our home defense gun for years, and I taught my wife and daughter to shoot it well and kept it in a closet just inside the front door.

First one I saw was back in the '50s, and was in the possession of an old cattle rancher who had arthritis, but got his deer every Fall with the carbine. No one asked him where it had originated, since they hadn't been released for sale by the govt. Their ballistics aren't too different from a .357 Mag., and with a bullet other than the issue FMJ I don't see why they wouldn't work satisfactorily for the same distances and circumstances that handgun hunters encounter. Also, .357 Mag. lever actions seem to be in vogue.

I knew that Howa made carbines for the Japanese forces and some S.E. Asian contracts, but have never seen one before Tex's photos. They have a good reputation. There have been several post WW II reproduction carbine manufacturers that made very inferior products, and are best to stay away from. A trait that they all share in common is a cast receiver. If you want a carbine and are offered a specimen made by someone other than the original govt. contractors, examine the receiver closely, and if the metal is porous and appears to be a casting, don't buy it. I actually saw two of them that had been destroyed through normal use when the left side bolt guide ate into the metal of the raceway slot. The Plainfield models were pretty much o.k., as were the early Universals, but the Universals suffered from a couple of redesigns and the later versions were not so good. If they have a complete cutout in the operating rod bolt handle where you can see the bolt lug through the handle and a twin recoil spring system my advise is to move along to the next table. I have no experience with the new Inland company's carbines or those made by IMI, but don't plan on buying any more.

[10-x]

Holy Cow!!! Du- uh on my part, just saw the Howa. Dont want to make you sick, do a little research on them. Howas were used in Vietnam and other ajoining countries by Black Op groups. IIRC the Thais issued them. Most ones encountered were " bring backs" and worth some $$$$. Several S.F. guys put them in their duffle bags, most before 68-69 of course. Hope that one is not a bring back.....

[richhodg66]

It's an easy thing to handload for. I would take one out when my boys were small as a treat, only problem was they could run through ammo way faster than I could reload it.

My wife's grandpa carried one in WWII and loved them. He hunted deer with one that had a sporter stock like that, I have a rack from one he killed in '86 or '87 that was a monster. I wouldn't hunt with one if I had something more powerful, but he sure got the job done with his over the years.

[Kestrel4k]

I know that design criteria forced the Carbine to be 30 cal, but I've always wondered how history would have treated the rifle&cartridge if the bullet would have had a nice wide meplat on the front instead of that RN. Would most likely have earned a lot better reputation ...

[Texas by God]

10-X, I have researched it. It is a factory built sporter. They may have used military parts but I doubt it as all the stampings are English. The research I did showed two sporter models; mine and a more futuristic looking one. I'll post up more pics soon. The military ones (Thai contract) do bring big bucks I've heard. And this sporter is NOT for sale. I've been looking for another and NO ONE has ever seen one. I'd happily hunt deer under 100 yds with it. As stated it's as powerful as a .357 rifle and very close to a .300 blackout with 110 gr bullets.

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[10-x]

Texas, ok, good. Folks dont realize " this old rifle" will make a nice deer rifle. Have seen $$2000.00+ nazi K-98s turned into $150.00 rifles, same for many O3s. Know back when they were $10.., lots were sporterized. Crying shame today. Sell them to a collector that will preserve history, take the $$$ and buy several nice hunting rifles, scopes and ammo. Looking forward to more pics, Howas were well made.

[bob208]

around here we pulled the gas piston put in a solid plug. made a dandy straight pull turkey rifle. pa. you can't use a semi.

[GONRA]

GONRA gotta Howa loong ago direct from the US Importer.
Just had to replace the recoil spring.
Eyeballs that they cut off the bayonet lug, otherwise Just Fine.

Shoots great with the same gas check cast bullet handloads
I've been using for decades in U.S.&A. M1 and M2 carbines.

[texasnative46]

To All,

My uncle was a PO3 & acting COB of the USS CHAMPION (AM-314) throughout most of his USNR service.
(The Regular USN COB was wounded in the first combat action, was med-evacd to Pearl Harbor & the Commander "held his billet for his return." - The COB never returned to sea duty & was finally retired in 1946. My uncle remained "the acting Jack" until his ETS about 8 months after VJ Day.)

He brought home (and hunted with for 3+ decades) a Rockola M1 Carbine that, "I bought off'n a Marine, as I was issued a S&W .38 Victory Model & couldn't hit nothing with it. - I gave him 2 tubes of toothpaste & a bottle of hair oil for that little carbine."
His comments about never being promoted was, "During the War the most permanent of things was a 'temporary arrangement', like making a sailor an 'acting something or the other'. The good thing was that I got to use the COB's quarters & was often addressed as 'Chief' by everybody, including the Old Man."
(Btw, the Carbine, along with just about "everything salable" from his house was stolen during his funeral. = That seems to happen a LOT up in our area of NETX.)

yours, tex

[Lloyd Smale]

id like to know how many rounds the old ones that I had shot or how many smiles they put on someones face. When I was in highschool I bought two of them for 50 bucks for the pair off a guy needing beer money in my dads best friends bar. Sold one for 50 bucks and had one for free. . Used to be a master sargent off the local air base my dad was friends with that ran the armory and when they went to ars they had CASES of ammo sitting collecting dust. He used to take it home and sell it to all the carbine shooters in the area and use the money for partys for his crew. Used to get it for 50 cents a box. Same price lr 22 shells were then. Buddys and I would spend hours drinking beer sitting by the river and tossing cans in (I know environmentalists) and dumping a mag at them floating by. Back then a mint carbine would set you back about 50 bucks and I saw beat on examples for half that. My first wifes sisters husband went gaga over old military stuff and talked me out of my last one. At that time they were going for around 300 bucks and I traded it for a brand new super Blackhawk. thought I made the deal of the century. Sure wish I had that one back right now. Killed my first 5 deer with a carbine using ball ammo we would drill a hp in. I don't now if it expanded or not. Never bothered checking.

[10-x]

Tex, what a shame. Sad our society has gotten where it is today. Just about have to have decent safes bolted to floor and alarm system. Years ago good friend and his wife came to our gun clubs Christmas dinner. Low lifes broke in and stole just about everything. All wifes jewelry, grandaughters first bycycle and 1 gun safe he didnt have bolted to floor.

[richhodg66]

Right now there are two of the Universals in local shops, both have been there a while. I've heard of reliability problems from the Universals, but have also heard that it was dependent on when in the production line it was made, the earlier ones are apparently better. Anyone know? I have a lot of reloading stuff for .30 Carbine and with the way military issue ones have climbed in value, I wouldn't want to use one of those as a working gun.

[Larry Gibson]

When I returned home from active duty the only rifle I had was an M1 Carbine. The 30 Carbine cartridge was legal to hunt deer with then in my home state. Since having used the M1 carbine in the SE Asian war games I had no problems using it for hunting blacktail deer in the foot hills of the Willamette Valley. I had a Lee Loader and loaded Sierra 110 SPs and Speer, Hornady 100 gr half jackets. Between regular tags and doe tags I killed 2 blacktail deer with the 110 SPs and 5 blacktail deer with the 100 gr HJs 1 shot each over the next 2 years. I found the 100 gr HJs to do the most terminal damage but with either bullet type you could "eat right up to the bullet hole".

I've also killed numerous coyotes and many jack rabbits with the Hornady 100 gr HJ over the years. I also hunted and killed 25 - 30 feral goats with the 30 Carbine. When I switched to cast bullets I worked the 311410 every way possible but didn't get any decent results above 1500 - 1600 fps. I then switched to the 311359 and have had excellent success with that bullet up through 1900 fps. When Lyman came out with the 105 gr SWC, 313631, I got it and it is excellent in the 30 Carbine at 1950 fps. I HP those and it is deadly on vermin.

I also use the Hornady 90 gr XTP HP .308 bullet at 2160 fps for HD. Accuracy is excellent out of my "shooter" M1 Carbine.

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[texasnative46]

10-X,

When my cousin's Mother went to the hospital in Dallas for her brief final illness, passed away & then was buried at Grayrock cemetery, sometime over that week "persons unknown" backed a big truck up to her house & carried off everything that was worth anything.
(Nell's nearest neighbor was over 3 miles away.)
The Franklyn County SO said that there were at least 5-6 thieves, as they even took her over 1-ton Steinway grand piano. - That's been >8 years ago & NOTHING has ever been recovered.

Like I said, ripping off people's homes "out in the county", while they are hospitalized or during funerals has become all too common.
(Inasmuch as funeral notices are routinely published in the newspapers, I don't know how to put a stop to this sort of crime. - In Nell's case, she was well-known/well-liked in Franklin County & her confinement at Baylor Hospital & funeral notice was in at least 2 local newspapers.)

Note: in 2003, while he & his wife were on vacation in Jamaica, someone burned down our county judge's farmhouse to the ground out near Naples. - Nobody was ever arrested, though the SO thinks that it was someone who was mad at the judge. - So it's NOT just weddings/funerals/hospitalization that may cause you to lose everything IF you live out from town. = Just EVIL people & criminal behavior.

yours, tex

[Thumbcocker]

Now you need a .30 Carbine black hawk to go with it, Very accurate pistol and easy to load for with pb boolits.

[bob208]

around here they watch the obits. for time and place of funeral. last one I house sat with my browning hi-power and 3 extra mags.

[dverna]

The little M-1 is a dandy home protection gun with a good bullet. It is light and easy to handle. The bolt can be easily operated by a woman or young person.

I have come close to buying one of the reproduction guns s couple of times. Prices for even beater original guns are stupid.

[texasnative46]

bob208,

GOOD PLAN, imo.

yours, tex

[Texas by God]

Here are some more pics. The mixture of plum and blue suggests reblued GI parts on a new receiver perhaps?
Three 30 caliber carbines; yet when I think of "30 carbine"- I think of the Win./Williams style. I forgot to include the 5 rd factory mag in the pics.
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[Texas by God]

Here's some good info on Howa M1 Carbines:
www.m1carbinesinc.comcarbine_howa.html

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[woodbutcher]

[smilie=s: Link don`t work.
Good luck.Have fun.Be safe.
Leo

[Texas by God]

Google "howa m1 carbine" is how I found it.

[Der Gebirgsjager]

Hey Tex, what's that nice looking little lever action?

Asking because I bought a Win. '73, Uberti '73, and a bargain Armi San Marco (having to gunsmith it a bit, doesn't feed well!), all in .44-40. Looking now to buy a .45 LC carbine or maybe 24" rifle. Will probably go with Uberti, but now Chiappa has one out, and I saw an older (2002) Rossi the other day that was tempting. Looking for general feedback on current and past .45 carbine/short rifle replicas.
:D
DG

[Texas by God]

Hey Tex, what's that nice looking little lever action?That's Dad's old Win 94 he bought before I was born. It's mid 50's vintage and I was in my mid fifties before I killed a deer with it.
He gave it to me before that. Dad was always working too much to hunt and we veiwed our land as a sanctuary. My brothers and I bought our own bolt actions to hunt with so the 94 sat around. I love killing called in turkeys with cast boolits using it. I added the 5D sight and sling swivels and I love hunting with it. Dad's 88 and still active but his ranch rifle now is a 1894CL Marlin .218 Bee with a 4x Tasco; he shoots it well.

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[Der Gebirgsjager]

Whoa! Looks like new! Dad must take good care of his rifles. :grin: (So do I!) I've got my dad's '94 .30-30 as well, LNIB, but not the one I would like to have owned. He bought a very used one back around 1952. Not a bit of bluing remaining, but not rusty either. He polished the metal up a bit and refinished the stock, which was walnut but a very light walnut, and it came out almost blonde. The light stock and the white metal got lots of favorable comments, but he sold it when he sold his ranch. Later in life, in the '70s, he bought a new one. He probably shot it twice in the gravel quarry near where he lived, probably not a box of shells total. He passed away in '95 and I got it, still have it, never shot it. But, I've got some "shooters" also. Not having shot it is just because I've never gotten around to doing it.

[Texas by God]

Uberti's are very nice. I would choose another 73 or a Marlin 1894 for your .45. Every Rossi 92 I've owned needed some action work but all were very accurate. I've always preferred Marlins but I'll always treasure Dad's Winchester!

[lefty o]

plum color parts suggest a casting to me.

[Texas by God]

plum color parts suggest a casting to me.
Could be- but I've seen plum on reblued Mausers as well and they aren't cast. I've been told by a gunsmith that not boiling the salts correctly can cause this color. As far as the Howa- I don't know. I would love to see another for comparison.

[hpdrifter]

Right now there are two of the Universals in local shops, both have been there a while. I've heard of reliability problems from the Universals, but have also heard that it was dependent on when in the production line it was made, the earlier ones are apparently better. Anyone know? I have a lot of reloading stuff for .30 Carbine and with the way military issue ones have climbed in value, I wouldn't want to use one of those as a working gun.

Don't know if it was early or late, but I had a Universal. It was a jam-a-matic. I sold it. It's a shame. cause I really enjoy the M! carbine. A friends dad had Winchester he bought through the DCM and it was rather accurate at 100 yards. About all I ever shot it at. Been looking for another for quite a while, but the $$ is too great most of the time.

[ulav8r]

http://www.m1carbinesinc.com/carbine_howa.html

[jeepvet]

I have a Universal Commercial 30 M1 and an Inland GI Model 30 M1. The Universal has always been a great shooter. It has a little 4 power scope of some kind mounted with a side mount base. I never have been able to get any commercial ammo to feed, only GI Ball. I have had the feed ramp polished and it still seems that the exposed lead will not feed. But I found Seirra's Varmiter HP bullets 110gr with no exposed lead and they feed and shoot great over Alliant 2400. If I need freezer meat, that is what I grab. I am not at all scared to take a neck shot on a whitetail doe at 75 - 100 yds with that rifle/bullet combo. But any farther than that and I will just wait for one to come closer.

The GI model doesn't get out much. I only got it because a friend offered it to me about 4 yrs ago for $350 (that's a friend!). Before he got it, someone had it drilled and tapped and mounted a Simmons 4X scope on it. It too is a shooter but I don't like to carry it out into the woods.

Then about 3 yrs ago another friend came in and gave me an AMT 30 Carbine semi auto pistol built along the line of a 1911. That one is fun to shoot too, but I don't think you could shoot it at night because it will put a rather large fireball out the end of its 6" barrel in the daylight.

When I think of a 30 M1 Carbine I always remember the episode of M*A*S*H where a soldier is demanding to see one of his buddies who is wounded and has Radar backed up against a wall refusing to let him in. The soldier raises his 30 Carbine and asks Radar if he knows what it is. Radar replies, "Yes Sir. That's one of those new guns that can shoot 80 Corporals a minute." I guess it depends on how fast you can pull the trigger and how big the mag is.

One thing that is hard to deny, they are fun to shoot!

[Texas by God]

I will never forget the one time I shot an M2 carbine! The first five rounds were somewhere close to my target, but the last 10 were airborne!

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[Lloyd Smale]

have to agree. With the right loads you have yourself a fast shooting rifle that leaves about any handun in the dust. Only downside is there loud and have some pretty impressive muzzle flash with factory ammo. But then the same could be said for an ar15.
The little M-1 is a dandy home protection gun with a good bullet. It is light and easy to handle. The bolt can be easily operated by a woman or young person.

I have come close to buying one of the reproduction guns s couple of times. Prices for even beater original guns are stupid.

[rondog]

Carbines, I have three. A nice Plainfield from the 70's, a '43 Inland, and a '43 IBM (thanks again Jim!). Lovely little rifles and great fun. The Plainfield is the house spook chaser.

[upnorthwis]

I've got the "new" Inland model. Feeds whatever I put in it but the accuracy is erratic. Have tried a half dozen powders and two different bullets. One day the "best" load will put 5 into an inch and a half at 100 and the next time out will be a 7" pattern with no two bullets within an inch and a half of each other. Made my own no drill scope mount to take the iron sight factor out of it. I think it's a bedding problem.

[Der Gebirgsjager]

upnorthwis -- like I mentioned earlier, I have an AMAC carbine that behaved exactly as you've described. Logic tells me that the bullet is going to go wherever the barrel is pointed at the moment of firing, so I bought and installed an Ultimak scope mount. This involves removing the top hand guard and clamping on the mount. It has the picatinney-type ridges and grooves and allows for a lot of possible ring positions. I mounted a scout-type scope and now accuracy is great. Mounting on the receiver won't do much good if the barrel changes position between shots. The only negative is that it changes the balance and handiness of the carbine's original design.

[Kestrel4k]

[...] I bought and installed an Ultimak scope mount. This involves removing the top hand guard and clamping on the mount. It has the picatinney-type ridges and grooves and allows for a lot of possible ring positions. I mounted a scout-type scope and now accuracy is great. Mounting on the receiver won't do much good if the barrel changes position between shots. The only negative is that it changes the balance and handiness of the carbine's original design.
Another iteration along these lines - a study in contrasts between a WWII Inland & my rather more modernized version:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/9lj35k9haxq4z81/20180324_190028.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/x3xjgad8p602ft3/M1%20Carbine%20suppressed.JPG?dl=0

[Der Gebirgsjager]

Yup! That's the idea.......

[upnorthwis]

This is the scope mount I made. May or may not change the barrel time and shoot the same once it returns to issue configuration for the match. Check that target out. Those are some real patterns. 217357

[garandsrus]

Looks more like a constellation map!

[rondog]

This is the scope mount I made. May or may not change the barrel time and shoot the same once it returns to issue configuration for the match. Check that target out. Those are some real patterns. 217357

Um, wow.....