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Petrol & Powder
03-18-2018, 05:56 PM
I've got an assortment of dies on several Dillon 550 toolheads. Some have the 1" Dillon lock nuts. Some have knurled rings and set screws that come with RCBS or Redding dies. Some have the split rings like Hornady, etc.

On some toolheads it just does not matter; the dies are locked down where I want them and I don't need to fool with them.
However, on some other toolheads, I need to make adjustments frequently. (Usually to the seating die)

My first thought was to lock two of the Dillon style nuts together at the deepest setting needed and make a set of spacers to accommodate the different shallower seating depths needed. The problem with that approach is some of the adjustments are rather large (the difference between a SWC and full WC) and some are very small (the difference between two types of SWC's). So that started to look like more work than it was worth.

Then I started to think (always dangerous :-o ) that it would be easier to just find a good style of lock rings that were easy to adjust and use a set of dummy cartridges to set the dies up as needed. The problem there is none of the rings really lend themselves to tool-less adjustment. They all require an Allen wrench or a regular spanner. So there's nothing to be gained there. It's the same amount of time to set the die(s) and powder measure; so I might as well just deal with it.

My last approach was the most expensive but quickest. I could just set up another toolhead specifically for wadcutters with the power measure and all of the dies adjusted properly. This is attractive because I could also install a special powder funnel/expander for the WC bullets. However the expense is a bit daunting and my reloading volume is large but not large enough to justify that expense.

Am I just chasing my tail or is there some trick out there that I'm missing?

ReloaderFred
03-18-2018, 06:09 PM
I've found the Hornady split rings to be the easiest to change adjustments with. They do require an Allen wrench, but I keep one with a handle (SnapOn) on the bench anyway, so it's just a matter of reaching for it and making the adjustment and retightening the screw.

Hope this helps.

Fred

Petrol & Powder
03-18-2018, 06:27 PM
That may be my best bet.

Reddirt62
03-18-2018, 06:56 PM
When it comes to my Dillons, especially rifle seat dies I got micrometer style dies. Some Forster and some Redding. Love them so much!! Worth every penny to me.

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gpidaho
03-18-2018, 07:02 PM
RD62 beat me to it. For the problem you describe the micrometer adjustable dies are the perfect solution, Love my Redding Comp. dies. Gp

country gent
03-18-2018, 07:07 PM
Instead of a complete second tool head. Buy a seater die and the ock ring where it needs and adjust then just change out the seating dies as needed.

Petrol & Powder
03-18-2018, 07:28 PM
Instead of a complete second tool head. Buy a seater die and the ock ring where it needs and adjust then just change out the seating dies as needed.

Actually that was on my mental list as an option. I just didn't write it down. $27.00 for a second seating die. Might be worth it.

Another possibility would be a custom seating seam for the Dillon die. The insert comes out with just clip. That would be a fast switch without even the need to unscrew the die from the toolhead.

country gent
03-18-2018, 09:21 PM
If the difference is enough you might be able to just frill the second hole in the stem and use the appropriate hole

C.F.Plinker
03-18-2018, 10:47 PM
On my seating dies the adjustment is made using the stem rather than by moving the entire die up and down. I made up dummy cartridges for each boolit I load. All I have to do is put the dummy cartridge in the shell holder, raise the ram, and adjust the stem until it snugs down on the boolit. Do a final check on the first real round seated and tweak a little if necessary.

Petrol & Powder
03-19-2018, 08:13 AM
If the difference is enough you might be able to just frill the second hole in the stem and use the appropriate hole

I gave that a little thought but I don't think there's enough room. (although you could gain a little room by off setting the second hole so that the stem needs to be rotated a little for the holes to line up). It would also be difficult to get the hole in exactly the right place.
A variation would be to make a Dillon style stem that was adjustable. It would take some trial and error to get the length exact but once it was a found a set screw recessed on the side of the stem could be locked down. At that point the entire stem would just be swapped out as needed (a fast process with the two piece Dillon die).

OR make a second stem that is slightly longer and mill the end down incrementally until the exact length is obtained.

Petrol & Powder
03-19-2018, 08:14 AM
Lots of good ideas, thanks!

Viper225
03-27-2018, 11:39 AM
I finally broke down and changed every lock Nut on my 550 tool heads to the 1" size, that are easier to work with.
As was said above make up some dummy rounds for quick die adjustment.

Bob R

cavhasbeen
03-27-2018, 02:13 PM
Another vote for the micrometer seater dies. Hornady also builds a mic seater stem iirc.

Boogedy_Man
03-27-2018, 05:00 PM
Hornady split rings are nice, but I wouldn't want them on a tool head or turret as they take a bit of room and you only have two flats for a wrench should you need one.

respiegel
03-30-2018, 05:25 PM
I use both methods on my Dillon, 1” rings so i can use the handy wrench on the back, and separate tool heads because i got tired of crushing my first magnum case after I switch


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