How about light weight 454 bullets?

[dk17hmr]

I have a modifed LEE 255 RNFP mold, basically we cut the back drive band off with a mill and made a 225gr gascheck bullet. I was thinking I would load them in my 454, I bet I could easily hit 1900 with this light weight bullet.

Anyone shoot anything that light in there 454?

[454PB]

I've used them, but had some bad experiences. My advise is to stay away from slow burning ball powders with light boolits or bullets. I'm referencing H-110, WW 296, AAC#9, and WC820 as powders to avoid. So far I've had no trouble with Lil'Gun, but that doesn't mean it's exempt. You run a good chance of sticking a boolit in the barrel!

[dk17hmr]

Really?

What about 2400?

I just want to see if it will work, I am probably just going to use them in 45lc cases.

[44man]

My question is of course---WHY? The caliber does not come into it's own until 335 gr's.
Accuracy will probably be non-existant because you will exceed what the twist needs. The light boolits need to be shot slow.
The light weight boolit is not a good large game killer either plus at that speed it might come apart or expand too much.
Might be fun to blow up water jugs though.

[Whitworth]

I've used them, but had some bad experiences. My advise is to stay away from slow burning ball powders with light boolits or bullets. I'm referencing H-110, WW 296, AAC#9, and WC820 as powders to avoid. So far I've had no trouble with Lil'Gun, but that doesn't mean it's exempt. You run a good chance of sticking a boolit in the barrel!

The Hodgdon reloading site lists light bullet (240 grain) 296 and H110 loads....... In fact 44man and I worked up some 296 loads using a 200 grain bullet in the .454 Casull with no trouble.

[odoh]

I've seen some commentary re >90% volume is necessary for WW296 to be consistant. My squib load experience seem to support that ~ I could've seated deeper as the bullet did have 2 crimping grooves ~ I had a choice . . . donno what I was thinking at the time.

[454PB]

Here's an example from a thread I started last year:

http://www.castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=20838&highlight=454+squib

[yondering]

At one time I messed with some 185gr Barnes X bullets (the ones with the large hollow point like a shot glass) in my Taurus 454. I was able to exceed 2000 fps using H110, but magnum primers and maximum powder charges are necessary for good ignition.

If you want light bullets, I used some muzzleloader sabots to shoot 158gr .357 bullets at unknown high velocities, using Green Dot, then switching to 2400.

Sorry, I don't have the load data for any of the above any more.

[Lloyd Smale]

i agree totaly, only differnce is id lower it to 300 grain. If you want to shoot 220s fast buy a 41gnr
My question is of course---WHY? The caliber does not come into it's own until 335 gr's.
Accuracy will probably be non-existant because you will exceed what the twist needs. The light boolits need to be shot slow.
The light weight boolit is not a good large game killer either plus at that speed it might come apart or expand too much.
Might be fun to blow up water jugs though.

[Whitworth]

I've seen some commentary re >90% volume is necessary for WW296 to be consistant. My squib load experience seem to support that ~ I could've seated deeper as the bullet did have 2 crimping grooves ~ I had a choice . . . donno what I was thinking at the time.


Those loads we worked up with a 200 grain bullet ended up with 38 grains of powder -- the case was definietly full, and the fireball impressive to say the least!:mrgreen: Not much recoil (too light a bullet), and pretty useless, really. To think that this bullet is used in the .460 with an additional 300 fps........ill conceived in my opinion.

[dk17hmr]

I did try some. With pretty good amount of 2400...like Whitworth said the fireball was impressive. No real use for it, they were softball size accurate though.