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Black Jaque Janaviac
03-15-2018, 12:12 PM
Has anyone tried the Lee 456-220-1r as a conical in a .45 ML rifle? I don't mean putting it in a sabot, but to shoot it much the same as a Lee REAL conical.

If I understand the design, it also has a taper towards the base to allow easier loading.

azrednek
03-15-2018, 12:38 PM
I did it years ago, likely mid 70's. I just can't recall if the result was good or bad. My Lee 456 mold when cast with pure clip-ons drops closer to 452.

fixit
03-15-2018, 08:52 PM
I’m a big believer in using 45 caliber handgun bullets for 45 caliber muzzleloader‘s. I have a CVA round ball twist Kentucky rifle that I hunted with a 255 grain lee RF for a few years. According to standard wisdom, That bullet is not supposed to stabilize in a 1 in 66 twist, but it did stabilize and actually shot fairly well! I would imagine the 252 grain swc would be a good choice in a muzzleloader also.

Good Cheer
03-16-2018, 06:45 AM
Has anyone tried the Lee 456-220-1r as a conical in a .45 ML rifle? I don't mean putting it in a sabot, but to shoot it much the same as a Lee REAL conical.

If I understand the design, it also has a taper towards the base to allow easier loading.

Haven't tried that one in a rifle, just .45Colt and ACP.
The short bearing length could be pretty tough to keep straight muzzleloading it.
The SWC's though, not bad.
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Black Jaque Janaviac
03-16-2018, 09:12 PM
Is that teflon tape 'round those boolits? How many wraps do you use? Do you pull it - snap - instead of cutting it?

kens
03-16-2018, 09:22 PM
What is your twist rate, and depth of rifling?
I have slow twist and deep grooves:
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?356192-Chrono-d-Balls-Bullets-amp-Boolits-in-slow-twist-barrel

Black Jaque Janaviac
03-17-2018, 11:51 PM
Mine is just a Cabela's (Investarms) sporterized Hawken. So it's probably a 1:48" twist, shallow groove.

Good Cheer
03-18-2018, 04:33 AM
Is that teflon tape 'round those boolits? How many wraps do you use? Do you pull it - snap - instead of cutting it?

Those are two layer wet paper patched for my .458 bore New Englander.