300 BLACKOUT tell me about your loads

[DCP]

300 BLACKOUT tell me about your pet loads

Thanks so much

[Hamish]

"300 BLACKOUT tell me about your pet loads"

I don't use the 300 BLK for pets,,,,,,,I like my pets,,,,,,[smilie=s:

Lee 155 SKS and the 310-196 FN MX2-30H, both sized .310 with 15.7gr of Reloder 7. Plenty accurate to 250Y.

[Smoke4320]

Noe 312 247 hp
7 grns lil gun
Subsonic and a great deer killer up to 100yds
Deadly quiet with a suppressor

[osteodoc08]

20gr H-110 and a Hornady 110gr ZMax. Most accurate supersonic load I’ve had to date.

Caution: depending on source, this is over max, other sources it’s not. Shoots fine in all my guns with no pressure signs.

[Grmps]

H110 15.3gr Lee 312-155-2R 1800 FPS sized to .309

YMMV Check manuals, start low and work your way up ---- I may be crazy :veryconfu

[runfiverun]

the rcbs 165 silhouette on top of 9,5grs of AA#9 has been real accurate.
the LEE T/L 240 in the 7 twist on top of 3.5-4.0grs of fast powder with a rifle primer seems to be pretty universal [sub sonic too]
I really like the Nosler Varmageddon 110 on top of 17.5grs of AA-4100 too it's a P-dog Bunny remover.
the Hornady 110 V-max is right there with it, just not quite as good.

[gpidaho]

NOE 311299 sized .310 body .301 nose over 12.5 gr. IMR 4227. seated as long as possible for the AR mag. Gp

[nagantguy]

20gr H-110 and a Hornady 110gr ZMax. Most accurate supersonic load I’ve had to date.

Caution: depending on source, this is over max, other sources it’s not. Shoots fine in all my guns with no pressure signs.

My findings and a "pet" load of mine as well, go with 18 grains and work up.

[Smoke4320]

Sonic... Mil Hec 312 159 HP 16.5 grns Reloader #7

[popper]

31-142C PB over 15.4gr H110. ~2k fps. Hornady 150gr #3031, 17gr. 1680.

[1Hawkeye]

Lyman #311359 115gr lead w/ 4.3grs of unique, hornady 150gr psp #3031 w/ 14grs of lil gun, hornady 170gr fp w/ 13grs of lil gun.

[Reverend Al]

Reformed FC brass, CCI SRM primer, 15.0 grains of Winchester 296, with bulk Winchester 150 grain PP bullet. Mild and accurate in my Remington 700 carbine.

[Moonie]

15.3gr H110/W296 under a lee 155gr .312 sized to .310. For subs I shoot AA1680 and RL-7 at around 1050fps (somewhere in the neighborhood of 10-10.5gr of either). All of these loads cycle my carbine length gas and my sons SBR with pistol length. I have played with RedDot and Unique with 155gr lee's at subsonic in my 7 1/2" Encore pistol barrel with suppressor.

[Bohica793]

NOE 311230 with 10 gr of CFEBLK. 1000 fps and one hole at 100.

[Texas by God]

15.5 grs of W296 and a 150gr Speer HotCor FP is my current looking for a pig load. The 110 VMax over LilGun shot great. I haven't nailed down a boolit load yet and I have no need for subsonic. The .300 BO is a great bullet disposal cartridge for those partial boxes you find on the bargain table.......

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[jimb16]

"300 BLACKOUT tell me about your pet loads"

I don't use the 300 BLK for pets,,,,,,,I like my pets,,,,,,[smilie=s:

Lee 155 SKS and the 310-196 FN MX2-30H, both sized .310 with 15.7gr of Reloder 7. Plenty accurate to 250Y.

There are a few of the neighbors pets.....

[Stuckcase]

180 gr Speer BTSP (22 dollars per 100)
19 gr AA 1680
Federal cases
CCI 450 mag primer
Supersonic----still like a 22 out of my suppressed SBR

[1006]

Mine are all shot from a Ruger American Ranch bolt action. I use the Berry Bullets plated, swagged, 30-30 bullet weighing 150grains.
5.0 Red Dot or 7.0 Trail Boss, Remington Small Pistol Primer, has a velocity of 990fps.
14.5 Alliante 2400 and a Small Rifle Primer has a velocity of 1839fps.
8.5 HS-6 and a Remington Small Pistol Primer has a velocity of 1365fps, I substituted a Fed Small Rifle primer on this one, but have not chronographed it yet. The small pistol primers appeared to be pierced, but I later found that smoothing the firing pin tip cured the problem.

All have been satisfactorily accurate.

[Conditor22]

300 AAC BO 700X 4.5 NOE 247 grn 0.309 accurate 100 yrds, quite with a can :) -- hits hard

[lilMAC25]

Noe 312 247 hp
7 grns lil gun
Subsonic and a great deer killer up to 100yds
Deadly quiet with a suppressor

What barrel length and what gas system?

Thanks

@Smoke4320

[gpidaho]

129 gr. Noe SP powder coated sized .309 over 17gr. LilGun. SONIC. Gp

[dogmower]

lee 208 grain pc over imr 4227. fist sized groups at 200 meters, .688 bc

[cwlongshot]

I have been having good results with 3031 @ 15.3g with a 312-1552R sized 311. 1350 ish. But under 1" @50.

€€€ OVER MAX LOAD €€€ USING A Hornady 135 FTX AND 300MP worked up to 20g in my RARR. ITS WARM IN TWO OF THREE ARS!! But shoots 2140fps and sub MOA

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CW

[Burnt Fingers]

Ok, I've got some questions.

My 300 Blackout pistol has been driving me nuts.

It's an 8" barrel, 1/8" twist.

I have the MP 311410 and NOE 311-158 FN molds and can't get either one to stay on paper with loads that will cycle my AR pistol.

Believe me I've tried. Over 30 loads for the MP, both hollow point and solids. 12 different loads for the NOE. I'm headed to the range tomorrow to test the heavy molds I have, NOE 311-198 SP, and the MP 235.

I really wanted this pistol to shoot supersonic with the MP 311410 and it won't.

My muzzle device has lead deposits, the tail of the bolt has lead deposits, yet there's no leading in the bore.

In another thread it was advanced that I'm spinning the boolits too fast. But I see in this thread that people are spinning similar weight boolits at the same speeds and getting good results.

It shoots J-word bullets just fine. I've got some of the Berry's plated 30-30 bullets to try tomorrow. They are supposed to be good to 2000 fps.

Shooting that MP 311410 I can rarely get five shots on a 12" target at 25 yards.

[popper]

My pistol is 10" 1:8, not much problem. What alloy and size? I ran some very hot loads and got lead on the bolt tail and seized gas rings.

[Burnt Fingers]

Alloy was 50/50 lino/pure. Sized to .310.

[Burnt Fingers]

As far as cast bullets today's trip was a complete bust.

30 different loads with three boolits. NOE 198 SP. MP 235, and the Lee 230.

The best I did was with the NOE 198 SP. Two shots touching 4" to the left of the center, two shots touching 5" to the right of the center and one directly in the center. It went like this R-L-C-L-R.

My next step is going to be casting some bullets out of pure lino, sizing to .311 and seeing how they work. I'd water drop them but baking the coating on kills any benefit of quenching.

I had picked up some Berry's 150 gr .30-30 bullets. Those shot into one ragged hole with 14.6 gr H110. Since I can pick those up for under $0.13 each I have a feeling that's going to be my blasting bullet.

If the larger sized lino fails I guess it's going to be new barrel time.

[cwlongshot]

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FACTORY AMMO!!!!

[popper]

Tejas where about? I've got some for mine I can give you. I looked at the NOE 158, problem is not filling the throat. Crimp in the groove and nothing in the long 0.2" BO throat. If you get another barrel, go for 10". Lee 230 is terrible. Can't imagine a barrel that takes 311 in BO, mine take 3085-309 at most. Lino won't help. Coat and bake for 1 hr, then into ice water - wait a week before shooting or add some #8 shot for arsenic to hasten hardening.

[Burnt Fingers]

I'm east of the DFW metro mess.

I've pretty much decided the barrel is the problem. I have some aluminum gas checks I'm going to try on the NOE 198. I wanted copper but Sage was out.

If the aluminum checks don't give better grouping I know it is the barrel.

[popper]

Who made the barrel? If it shoots jacketed OK then it's probably not the barrel. With the short pistol gas barrel, by the time you get pressure to operate the bolt, load is pretty stout and hard on cast. Short barrel (bullet leaves the barrel before bolt operates) at super dumps pressure too fast. Good for subs & heavies but hard to do with med. supers. Try coating & sizing 309 and light load (bolt won't work) to see if it really is the barrel. Unique, A2400, cfeblk at ~ 7-8 gr. I'd try 3 or 4:1 and H.T after cooking. I'm just west of Wylie and have some coated & sized 3085, I know they work in mine.

[Lloyd Smale]

130 rcbs spitzer gas check pc'd with either 16 grains of wc820 (aa9) or 20 grains of 110.

[stewmagoo]

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FACTORY AMMO!!!!Great job! Plinking ammo or hunting ones?

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[Burnt Fingers]

Who made the barrel? If it shoots jacketed OK then it's probably not the barrel. With the short pistol gas barrel, by the time you get pressure to operate the bolt, load is pretty stout and hard on cast. Short barrel (bullet leaves the barrel before bolt operates) at super dumps pressure too fast. Good for subs & heavies but hard to do with med. supers. Try coating & sizing 309 and light load (bolt won't work) to see if it really is the barrel. Unique, A2400, cfeblk at ~ 7-8 gr. I'd try 3 or 4:1 and H.T after cooking. I'm just west of Wylie and have some coated & sized 3085, I know they work in mine.

I'll give that a try. I really want this thing to work. I tried some subsonic heavies and they wouldn't group at all.

[cwlongshot]

Sierra 135HP neck sized brass and 17.7g 296 seated 2100. 1/4 MOA in my RARR.

Scarry accurate.

Cw

[cwlongshot]

Great job! Plinking ammo or hunting ones?

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Stew, thats a match hp bullet. Not really designed to expand. So Id call that a target/steel shootin bullet. CW

[Lloyd Smale]

my accuracy and hunting load is a barnes 110 with 20 grains of 110 and a fed match small rifle primer. Shoots under 3/4s of an in for an average of 3 5shot groups out of my cheap 16 inch psa rifle with a 4x scope. Shot 4 deer with it last year and that bullet gave good damage even out to 200 yards.

[stewmagoo]

my accuracy and hunting load is a barnes 110 with 22 grains of 110 and a fed match small rifle primer. Shoots under 3/4s of an in for an average of 3 5shot groups out of my cheap 16 inch psa rifle with a 4x scope. Shot 4 deer with it last year and that bullet gave good damage even out to 200 yards.Lloyd, are you speaking of the Barnes 110 Black Tips? I load these with h110 and seems max load is 20.2 at a SAMMI 2.250. But I suspected that more could be loaded into this. Pressure signs?

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[white cloud]

my accuracy and hunting load is a barnes 110 with 22 grains of 110 and a fed match small rifle primer. Shoots under 3/4s of an in for an average of 3 5shot groups out of my cheap 16 inch psa rifle with a 4x scope. Shot 4 deer with it last year and that bullet gave good damage even out to 200 yards.

How far did your deer run and did you get a decent blood trail? My 16" PSA 300 BO is amazingly accurate. I would like to use it this fall for deer.

[cwlongshot]

I have taken three deer with this Barnes 110. All where quickly dispatched and but NO Bullets recovered. But blood trails have been sparce. I find this normal
For solid copper bullets. The fragmenting factory of cup n core produces a different wound that seems to bleed more.

My fav bullet for the blk out on deer is the Hornady 125 SST. BUT Bothe Speer and Now Hornady offer a few BLK SPECFIC bullets that loop promising. Ill be trying the 135 FTX on game. I have the Speer 150 GD and it shoots. VERY WELL. The third bullet is a Hornady GMX 110 spec made for tge 300 Blk/Whisper

Stew, you can be sure that load is safe in Lloyds rifle. But you should start much lower and work up. Also Bolts and Single shots will handle lil More pressure safer then a MSR action.

CW

[Lloyd Smale]

stupid dangerous mistake. Like I said in my previous post the load was 20 grains not 22. Longest out of the four a deer ran was about 75 yards. that was the one shot the closest at 50 yards. One took two leaps and piled up and two dropped on the spot. Including one at 200 yards. Never paid any attention to blood trails because they all died within eye sight in the field I was shooting. Internal damage was impressive. Even at 200 yard. Easily as much as any ive shot with 243s, 250s ect. It was the black tip 110. I do agree with cwlongshot though on blood trails. Ive shot probably 30 deer with x bullets and they were great at blood trails. Exit wounds are usually on the small side. Especially with the smaller 24 and 25 cal guns. I wouldn't ever again use an x bullet in something smaller then 7mm. Matter of fact other then the bo I doubt id ever hunt deer again with any x bullet. But the bo x bullet is made to open up a bo velocitys. It does work.
Lloyd, are you speaking of the Barnes 110 Black Tips? I load these with h110 and seems max load is 20.2 at a SAMMI 2.250. But I suspected that more could be loaded into this. Pressure signs?

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[stewmagoo]

stupid dangerous mistake. Like I said in my previous post the load was 20 grains not 22. Longest out of the four a deer ran was about 75 yards. that was the one shot the closest at 50 yards. One took two leaps and piled up and two dropped on the spot. Including one at 200 yards. Never paid any attention to blood trails because they all died within eye sight in the field I was shooting. Internal damage was impressive. Even at 200 yard. Easily as much as any ive shot with 243s, 250s ect. It was the black tip 110. I do agree with cwlongshot though on blood trails. Ive shot probably 30 deer with x bullets and they were great at blood trails. Exit wounds are usually on the small side. Especially with the smaller 24 and 25 cal guns. I wouldn't ever again use an x bullet in something smaller then 7mm. Matter of fact other then the bo I doubt id ever hunt deer again with any x bullet. But the bo x bullet is made to open up a bo velocitys. It does work.Thank you sir!. I have acquired 2 Handi 300BOs and been loading some ladders for the 110 Barnes Blacks to find out the best.

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[smalltownguy]

Mine are all shot from a Ruger American Ranch bolt action. I use the Berry Bullets plated, swagged, 30-30 bullet weighing 150grains.
5.0 Red Dot or 7.0 Trail Boss, Remington Small Pistol Primer, has a velocity of 990fps.
14.5 Alliante 2400 and a Small Rifle Primer has a velocity of 1839fps.
8.5 HS-6 and a Remington Small Pistol Primer has a velocity of 1365fps, I substituted a Fed Small Rifle primer on this one, but have not chronographed it yet. The small pistol primers appeared to be pierced, but I later found that smoothing the firing pin tip cured the problem.

All have been satisfactorily accurate.
@1006. I have that rifle on the way to my dealer any problems or tricks with yours?

[1006]

SmallTownGuy—

I have owned two of them. The first one was a rotary mag version and it did not feed reliably. I sold it and bought the one that uses AR15 magazines; it operates as it should with no problems. They are very accurate guns for the money.

[Herb in Pa]

I had one with the rotary magazine, accuracy was good..........BUT THAT MAGAZINE SUCKED, almost impossible to single load and wasn't that great on feeding.

[Dukeconnor]

I guess I am one of the rare oeople that like the lee 230. I have a cheap PSA with a 10 inch barrel anf the lees work for me. lee 230 pc over 10 gr of imr4227. super quiet ithrough my cheap form 1 can. I really like this gun and can combo. Haven't really shot anything else lately.

[colonelhogan44]

SmallTownGuy—

I have owned two of them. The first one was a rotary mag version and it did not feed reliably. I sold it and bought the one that uses AR15 magazines; it operates as it should with no problems. They are very accurate guns for the money.

I also have a 300blk American ranch in purgatory at the moment (California BS). My favorite load so far is a cast and PC 158 gr 30-30 bullet from SNS over 4 grains of red dot -- about 1000fps IIRC and no recoil and a mild report. It's a great plinker, super cheap and easy to load with a small pistol primer. With a can in a free state, it would be magic, I'm sure. No chance of cycling an AR -- I've been manually cycling mine. I liked the load enough to buy the bolt action to shoot it! :-D

I am working up loads with the Lee 230 with blue dot, and I'm going to work up other red dot loads with various weights of cast bullets. Quickload has been almost exactly spot on predicting velocity numbers using red and blue dot and a 16" barrel.

[Lloyd Smale]

for a pop gun load lately ive been running 4 grains of pr200 (aa2) and a 130 rcbs spitzer gas check. It sounds like a pellet rifle with a can on it and my can isn't the quietest. Comical thing is I shot that load at a 100 yards. Got about 10 inches of drop compared to my full power load with the same bullet but the light load shot 2 inch 5 shot groups! Even without a can it about sounds like a 22lr going off and hits with a heck of a lot more authority. It would sure make for a great rabbit load.

[smalltownguy]

Thank you for the reply

[Conditor22]

2400 7.1grn 1/2in group 940 fps NOE 247 FN GC (with no GC) sized .309 150 FT AR platform

[cwlongshot]

I picked up a 311284 HP mold.

I have yet to work up loads. The nose is about .302 so even after PC its small
Enough not to cause problems.

But I think it should be a DANDY!!

[Burnt Fingers]

I picked up my Ruger American Ranch last week. The scope arrived today. Still waiting on rings.

I was going to throw a old scope on it and head to the range but it's been a bit wet here the past few days.

[cwlongshot]

I picked up my Ruger American Ranch last week. The scope arrived today. Still waiting on rings.

I was going to throw a old scope on it and head to the range but it's been a bit wet here the past few days.
LOVE LOVE LOVE MINE!!! I bought it from a dealer who always gets yhe first new models. This one was not supposed to be sold when it waa. It came in, got logged and put out. I was first in store and couldnt believe my eyes. Went straight to girl to do papers. Finished got my number and paid as another employee picked it up. Word got around and owner came up and told me story. But as papers where done and official transfer completed... It was mine!!

I have shot countless SUB 1/2 MOA GROUPS!! Ill go to my grave with it!!

CW

[cupajoe]

Not trying to derail the thread but, you fellows having trouble with the Ruger Ranch Rifle feeding from the rotary mags. You can call Ruger Cust Service and order the Magazine conversion kit so the rifle will use AR mags. I just called this past Thursday and ordered the conversion for my rifle in 7.62x39. Total cost including shipping is $25.95. The number is 336-949-5200.

[cwlongshot]

Not trying to derail the thread but, you fellows having trouble with the Ruger Ranch Rifle feeding from the rotary mags. You can call Ruger Cust Service and order the Magazine conversion kit so the rifle will use AR mags. I just called this past Thursday and ordered the conversion for my rifle in 7.62x39. Total cost including shipping is $25.95. The number is 336-949-5200.

MANY TIMES, any such problems can also be fixed with a extra rotation of the magazine spring.

CW

[smalltownguy]

Not trying to derail the thread but, you fellows having trouble with the Ruger Ranch Rifle feeding from the rotary mags. You can call Ruger Cust Service and order the Magazine conversion kit so the rifle will use AR mags. I just called this past Thursday and ordered the conversion for my rifle in 7.62x39. Total cost including shipping is $25.95. The number is 336-949-5200.

Gonna call this week.
I loaded and cycled the mag with factory Remington 220 subs about 8 times.First round Ftf about 25% of the time.

[smalltownguy]

Gonna call this week.
I loaded and cycled the mag with factory Remington 220 subs about 8 times.First round Ftf about 25% of the time.


2 45-50 minute wait and hung up on.
Mine is one of the first year production 300 black out, no adapter no modifications available. So he is sending 2 mags to try to see if they are better.
Well for a $300 option to use my yhm phantom suppressor and long nose cast out the shop window should be fine.

[popper]

been running 170gr PB ranchdog style with 10 gr 2400 1400 fps in the AR pistol. Lots of fun, hammers hard. Loaded a bunch to take to Ar with the GKs this fall. We go through a lot of ammo at family shoots.

[Lonegun1894]

Just got the RARR, so thank you all for the load info. Gonna start casting and see what it likes.

[colonelhogan44]

Just got the RARR, so thank you all for the load info. Gonna start casting and see what it likes.

I just took my new RAR out and ran some 158gr cast over 4gr red dot. What a mild shooting and fun plinking load -- it's like a glorified 22lr. Accuracy was around 1-2" at 50 yards.

[AndyC]

NOE mold - TL310-225-RN-CE3 4 cavity PB Brass - 225gr sub.

https://i.imgur.com/Nl4tXfQ.jpg

Have loaded some, haven't shot them yet.

[colonelhogan44]

I test fired some 195gr SNS blackout bullets over 4.5 grains of red dot, COAL 2.125" and got great accuracy -- holes touching at 50yds with an occasional flier. I think the bullet was lightly contacting the rifling when the bolt was closed due to a bit of force needed to close the bolt, so I'll probably back off to 2.100".

I need to get the chronograph out and see what the velocity is. I believe they are subsonic, but it's hard to tell with hearing protection on.

[Trinidad Bill]

Has anyone had any experience will Hunters-Supply 238gr lead in an AR platform?

[dannyd]

Has anyone ever used Unique and a 165 grain cast bullet?.

[colonelhogan44]

No, but the reaming of the brass to accomodate the 0.311" diameter sounds like a hassle -- there are plenty of 0.309 bullets out there in that weight range.

[Trinidad Bill]

Hunters-Supply, I bought 500 of them several years ago, just figured it was time to use what I have.

[colonelhogan44]

In that case, load away! I bet you could get away without neck turning.

[reddog81]

Has anyone ever used Unique and a 165 grain cast bullet?.

I've used Unique with a 200 grain 312299 bullet in a Ruger American Ranch. 5 grains was just under 1,000 FPS and 6 was just over 1,000 FPS. SD was 12 FPS which should mean the load wasn't on the edge of being wild pressure swings. I've shot 5.5 grains and it also worked well and should be right around 1,050.

While not the same as a 165 grain bullet, it's at least a reference point.

[dannyd]

I've used Unique with a 200 grain 312299 bullet in a Ruger American Ranch. 5 grains was just under 1,000 FPS and 6 was just over 1,000 FPS. SD was 12 FPS which should mean the load wasn't on the edge of being wild pressure swings. I've shot 5.5 grains and it also worked well and should be right around 1,050.

While not the same as a 165 grain bullet, it's at least a reference point.


Thanks, the only cast bullet load data I have been able to find was in Lyman manual #50.