Hornady LNL Grrrrrrr!

[omgb]

I've had a couple of LNL presses now since 2000 or so. One had the case feeder. I gotta tell you, this is a tinkerer's press. The primer feed is really sensitive to dirt. Look at it sideways and it will fail. When you first set it up, you have to center the primer punch and pick up slide hole in the primer tube hole or...you will not have reliable primer feed. The trouble is, is that to do this you have to eye ball it and move the plastic actuator rod holder back and forth until you get it. Strictly trial and error. A true PITA. One grain of powder will jam this entire set up, one freak'n grain.

Then there's the case feeder. O'l shaky tilt. You adjust it, tweak it and if you are lucky, it will drop cases most of the time. Today however was not one of those days. Today it was every third or fourth cased failed to properly drop. That's not counting the tipped cases that got crushed in the sizing die. Grrrrrrrrrr! Without the case feeder you can make some hay provided you keep things clean.

Now the bullet feed dies, the ones that work with bullet tubes not the collator, those are a waste of time. Sometimes they drop a bullet, sometimes none and sometimes the entire column. Too frustrating to even contemplate.

I took my press out of storage a week ago. It took over four hours of fiddling and tweaking to get it up and going.....but the case feeder still is an issue. I'm thinking I should have gone Blue. Now I'm too broke and out of work to do anything about it.

[dannyd]

Relax and take your time. It will work.

[Livin_cincy]

Have you watched Highboy76's videos on that press over on YouTube ?

[MyFlatline]

I also have the LNL. The priming system has been removed from mine. I hand prime now and the LNL works flawlessly ( most of the time :) ) Any little piece of trash from a spent primer was an instant lock up, then came spilt powder during the disassembly.

[dverna]

I was going to post a smart *** comment, but decided not to.

Some machines are lemons and sometimes it is the operator. I had a Green Machine and gave up on it. Others can make them work, but not this dummy.

Hopefully you can sell it and add a few dollars to get a Dillon 550. It will not have the case feeder, or bullet drop but it works with a high degree of reliability. Sometimes an effortless 300-400 per hour is better than 700/hr with an added hour of fiddling.

[omgb]

I have a 550B and it does work. I am patient and very skilled with machines. Hornady service and I are on a first name basis. I've seen every one's videos, done all the tweaks. It's just not a very stable design.

[Carrier]

I have a 550B and it does work. I am patient and very skilled with machines. Hornady service and I are on a first name basis. I've seen every one's videos, done all the tweaks. It's just not a very stable design.

I have to agree with you on the case feeder as it is sort of a hit and miss. But the priming system on mine has worked for 3 years now and the two issues I had were my fault.
The one thing that has been a pain though is the case retention spring. Mine seems to kink them all the time.
I’m slowly putting some cash away for a 650 to give it a try.

[1browski]

I must have got lucky on mine because I prime on my press and have loaded 1000sss of 223 and 9mm with no primer issues. I havent used a case feeder on mine so no comment on that. The only problem I had was a depriming issue that was corrected with the die itself.

[omgb]

I loaded a couple of hundred rounds today NOT using the case feeder and all went well. I can see the problem with the case feeder but I'm not sure how to fix it

[Carrier]

I loaded a couple of hundred rounds today NOT using the case feeder and all went well. I can see the problem with the case feeder but I'm not sure how to fix it

What is the issue with your case feeder?

[Drew P]

I can help with all of these. First, grind two flats on the primer slide so you create small pockets where dirt can go without gumming up. Then toss the bullet feed dies into the garbage and replace them with mbf bullet feed dies. Then take the case feeder and sell it, replaced with bullet collator to feed the mbf dies.
That’s how mine is set up and I like it a lot. I feed cases by hand which allows me to look them over quickly.

A 550 is great but if you’re losing the primer, case feeder and bullet feed dies then I don’t see what the point was.

[jbohio]

pm sent

[Plate plinker]

I can help with all of these. First, grind two flats on the primer slide so you create small pockets where dirt can go without gumming up. Then toss the bullet feed dies into the garbage and replace them with mbf bullet feed dies. Then take the case feeder and sell it, replaced with bullet collator to feed the mbf dies.
That’s how mine is set up and I like it a lot. I feed cases by hand which allows me to look them over quickly.

A 550 is great but if you’re losing the primer, case feeder and bullet feed dies then I don’t see what the point was.

If I was in the OP shoe I would send it down the road and by a 650. Tossing half the press in the garbage and buy ing more stuff doesn't add up to me.

[omgb]

OK, I really went over the press today. Priming works OK now. Lots of cleaning and a mild dusting of mica. Shell plate got cleaned too JIC. Replaced the retaining spring...it had a small kink that would sometimes prevent a case from sliding in easily. Now, the case feeder. Mine dates back to 2003 or so. There have been lots of changes since then. First, the Pivot Base now has a clamp to prevent it from flexing up or torqueing to one side. Mine doesn't have that clamp and the pivot plate is moving. This greatly affects the ability to smoothly drop a case dead center in the slide. I've included a couple of photos. Second, my base plate is bent, has been since I bought it all of those years ago. This has in turn caused the cam wire to scrape, bind and bend. This affects the movement of the pivot. So, I'm contacting Hornady to see if they will make good on the worn and upgraded parts. They should but who knows. RCBS and Dillon would for sure, no questions asked. Redding not so much and Lyman, eh, it depends. So, we will see.214773214774

[Carrier]

If you talk to Hornady I’m pretty sure they will. I just got the clamp, pivot body and pivot from them no charge. I have issues with the case retainer spring kinking after loading anywhere’s from 20 to a hundred cases which sometimes causes the cases to not slide into shell plate properly.
Now one guy from Hornady told me it was the primer shuttle causing this as the punch is catching on the shuttle hole. That is not happening on mine as I used machinist ink on the punch and not a mark on the shuttle or upwards moved when punch goes through the shuttle hole.
I’m pretty sure my issue is the sub plate where the spring drops at station 5. I’ve seen some grind that angle of drop back a little ways and is supposed to stop that.
Also not sure if anyone else has had issues with shell plates but I have one that wasn’t machined properly and the spring pops out of the sub plate grove in a couple rotations of the shell plate.
The best guy I ever dealt with at Hornady has moved to a different position there and now I have to start all over with others there.
Good luck with your issues.

[Steve E]

I've had my LNL AP for about a year now, I don't have the case feeder or bullet collator. So far everything runs great with no problems other than the initial setup, after the first set of adjustments the only thing I have had to mess with one time was the case feed pawl, I think that is what you call the things at the bottom of the ram that you adjust with allen wrenches. All together I have loaded many thousands of 380 acp, 9mm, 10mm, 357 Mag and 45 acp but only a few hundred .223 on it so far. It is a giant step up from my old progressive, an RCBS Piggy Back II which was very good but required more attention.

Steve.........

[Drew P]

If I was in the OP shoe I would send it down the road and by a 650. Tossing half the press in the garbage and buy ing more stuff doesn't add up to me.

Except even with an 1100$ Blue koolade injection I’d still want to have a bullet collator and mbf dies. Which he could pay for with proceeds of selling the case feeder. Net zero.

[omgb]

I called Hornady Customer Service and they are shipping me all of the parts to fix my issue. Should be here next week. If the problem still persists, they want the unit to work with until it is fixed. I like that. My CF dates to 2003-4 and there have been numerous fixes since that early beginning. With the new changes I sould be good.

[dogdoc]

Dillon 650 . Have 2 and almost never have a problem other than cleaning once in a while. I have had other progressives but the Dillons just work

[omgb]

My LNL is such an early one I think most of my issues are "teething" issues. Dillon had a jump on Hornady. They copied a lot of their ideas from Star and carried some over from their Gatling gun. Hornady was re-inventing the wheel. When I see all of the mods and upgrades in the new machines I am amazed. Once I have the case feeder fixed my machine will be pretty serviceable. No need to go Blue just to be with the "in" crowd. :) Here is one undeniable point: Dillon set the bar pretty high for customer service. No BS is just that. RCBS was quick to join in. Hornady was slower but then, their pockets aren't as deep either. Lee and Lyman are way back in the pack by comparison. Redding is a mystery to me. I have never had an issue with anything of theirs so I have no idea what their CS is like.

[Drew P]

I think Dillon Hornady and rcbs customer service is unreasonably good. Like, what other industry would come close? But hey, I won’t complain, I guess.
But, to say Hornady customer service is somehow inferior seems like a real stretch. They will do a lot for free. And they answer the phone. That’s a miracle in this age. I’ve heard their case feeder sucks though so I won’t go that route. I figure my left hand needs something to do, so I may as well feed cases instead of bullets. Cases ar easier to feed, and bullets require less quality control going in. SO that made sense to me. But seems like most people prefer to have cases fed repather than bullets. I often wonder why?

[omgb]

Let me clarify, Hornady CS is top notch. I can’t imagine it could be any better. This was not the case even 8 years ago. Both RCBS and Hornady had to catch up to Dillon, but catch up they did. Any difference between them now is more imagination than reality. Hornady now has a full timed dedicated email guy. What used to take a week or more to get a response now gets answered in 24 hrs or less. Now that’s CS

[dannyd]

RCBS has great customer service from when I started using them in 1989. Started using Dillon cs in 1990 their okay too.

[JimB..]

I have had good customer service from Hornady, and not the fault of the customer service folks, but their policy is that they don’t provide free service on a secondhand press. This is understandable, but just know that the parts add up very fast when you’re having to pay for them.

I have had no problems getting free repair parts from Dillon on my second or third hand SDB.

[Lloyd Smale]

the case feeder is a headache plain and simple. the priming can be too if you don't keep everything surgery room clean. Ill put it this way. If my two lnls were guns I sure wouldn't take them to war.

[William Yanda]

Sure you're not talking about Lee? (Purple font off)

[bgw45]

"in" crowd.
Hardly "in" crowd. I must admit I don't have the patience, desire or skill to tinker my way through reloading. I chose blue as a result of experience with Lee and feedback from blue users. I also occasionally use their tech support which has been great. I don't feel like a snob and appreciate those folks that enjoy the challenge of making their equipment functional. They have skills I don't possess.

[omgb]

Didn't mean anything other than I took the road less traveled.....and am paying for it as usual.

[Petrol & Powder]

Have you tried painting it blue? :wink:

[Drew P]

Have you tried painting it blue? :wink:

I wanted to do this to mine just to brag about my new Dillon lol. But I think photochopping a Dillon red would get even more reaction.

[Steve E]

omgb

Your comment about Redding made me think about my experience with them, I contacted Redding about a 280 Rem Ack Improved sizing die that was scratching cases, the ask me to send it in and after the third time of sending it in they still didn't fix it and said "it was within spec's". I finally bought a sizing from someone else.

Steve............

[omgb]

The did respond to a problem I was having fitting a shell holder to a T7. I ended up buying their shell holder and the problem ceased to be a problem. I guess Bonanza didn't hold too closely to specs

[mwhite49]

I'm still finishing the set up on my lnl. I just got the case feeder dialed in, no issues so far.

[omgb]

Got the new parts in and everything dialed in. Wow! These up grades make all the difference. I loaded 500 straight with nary a hitch. Now, what do you guys think of Mr Bullet Feeders dies? Can they be used with an aluminum feed tube? Will it feed cast bullets? How does it stack up against the Hornady and RCBS dies

[Drew P]

Got the new parts in and everything dialed in. Wow! These up grades make all the difference. I loaded 500 straight with nary a hitch. Now, what do you guys think of Mr Bullet Feeders dies? Can they be used with an aluminum feed tube? Will it feed cast bullets? How does it stack up against the Hornady and RCBS diesthe mbf dies can’t be compared to the collet style like hornady. I haven’t use rcbs but I never will after using the mbf. They really work amazingly. Cast no problem. The Hornady jokes got tossed. I can’t believe that anyone actually has good results with those. The mbf is superior and yes they offer a basic tube system much like the Hornady setup.

[Walks]

I have an early HORNADY L-N-L, only problem I've ever had is with the case ejector. Got the upgrade, kicks out cases with ease. Only complaint I have is sending 15 shellplates back to be modified at $10 a pop. I bought all those for $12 each anyway, so I can't really complain. Don't believe in case feeders, too noisey and bullet feeders. Too much SPEED. I want to relax when I load. Not be inundated by the noise of a case feeder. And I wanna use any bullet I choose, not be limited by bullet feeder limitations.

RCBS IS STILL THE BEST CUSTOMER SERVICE. Has been LONG BEFORE dillon existed.

I bought a dillon 450 when they 1st came out 35+yrs ago. Nothing but trouble, wouldn't feed CCI 500 primers, Call them, their answer; "CCI primers ****, use only WINCHESTER. Their powder measure was all aluminum. Came with warning not to use Ball Powder. Sold it to a guy who proceeded to blow up 3 guns loading on it. Seen a lot more guns blown up by people using dillons. They tell how easy reloading is. DON'T TELL PEOPLE THEY NEED TO LEARN WHAT EACH STEP REALLY ENTAILS.

Shouldn't be allowed to by a progressive until they've loaded at least a 1000+RDS on a single stage.

[bgw45]

Walks, I'm so thankful my experience is not like yours.

[dogdoc]

I have an early HORNADY L-N-L, only problem I've ever had is with the case ejector. Got the upgrade, kicks out cases with ease. Only complaint I have is sending 15 shellplates back to be modified at $10 a pop. I bought all those for $12 each anyway, so I can't really complain. Don't believe in case feeders, too noisey and bullet feeders. Too much SPEED. I want to relax when I load. Not be inundated by the noise of a case feeder. And I wanna use any bullet I choose, not be limited by bullet feeder limitations.

RCBS IS STILL THE BEST CUSTOMER SERVICE. Has been LONG BEFORE dillon existed.

I bought a dillon 450 when they 1st came out 35+yrs ago. Nothing but trouble, wouldn't feed CCI 500 primers, Call them, their answer; "CCI primers ****, use only WINCHESTER. Their powder measure was all aluminum. Came with warning not to use Ball Powder. Sold it to a guy who proceeded to blow up 3 guns loading on it. Seen a lot more guns blown up by people using dillons. They tell how easy reloading is. DON'T TELL PEOPLE THEY NEED TO LEARN WHAT EACH STEP REALLY ENTAILS.

Shouldn't be allowed to by a progressive until they've loaded at least a 1000+RDS on a single stage.

Must be a lot of idiots in your part of the world blowing their guns up with Dillons. As a competitive shooter, I shoot more than most and without a good progresssive press, the reloading would be overwhelming. My son and I have a uspsa match this weekend and I need to load about 400 rounds on my Dillon 650. It will take me 30 or 40 minutes. The overwhelming choice of competitive shooters for reloading is a Dillon machine of some sort and they are not routinely blowing up guns. I reloaded a few rounds on single stage press the other day and was quickly reminded why I purchased my first dillon 550 back in the mid 80s. The tedium was overwhelming. I would much rather shoot than reload!

[Jtarm]

Glad to hear it’s not just me.

I’m about ready to just go get a turret, I think it would be faster and save me a lot of money on primers.

Almost every time they get low the slide hangs and I have to remove the whole feed. Even though I slip a card under the tube when I lift it up, it’s impossible to do without spilling primers. I have a 250 grain bullet attached to the top of the plastic rod to keep up feed pressure.

The latest adventure is the rod that actuates the primer slide. Every time the ram goes up and the slide starts to pull back it pulls the rod out of the cup at the bottom.

Ideas, anyone?

I called Hornady and they sent me a couple of the brackets that attach at the top. Installed a new one to no avail.

The primer slide pulls back without much effort, so that’s not the problem.

[Drew P]

Sounds like your primer shuttle is not moving freely. Make sure it manually slides easily just by pulling on it where the spring mounts to it.

[Jtarm]

Sounds like your primer shuttle is not moving freely. Make sure it manually slides easily just by pulling on it where the spring mounts to it.

That’s what I said there at the end, only I called it the “slide”.

[JimB..]

I’m about ready to just go get a turret, I think it would be faster and save me a lot of money on primers.

When I got my LNL the entire primer assembly was missing, the prior owner could never get it to work. I ordered all the parts and it seems to be working for me. In fact I’d take another, which brings me to mentioning that I have this Lyman 7station turret press and a spare turret if you decide to get serious. Might even have the priming parts for it.

[Walks]

COWBOY ACTION SHOOTERS are the ones who would blow up their guns using a dillon. They were feed the hype about "How easy it is to load on a dillon". Just put a case and bullet in and pull the handle. I know of one guy who said dillon told him the press would arrive ready to load. So he just dumped in some W231 and WSP's and started cranking out ammo. 1st round blew his sixgun to pieces, took 3 of his fingers with it. Cowboy Shooting started here in SoCal. At one time I could go to as many as 7 different matches within a hundred miles of my home. Shoot Cowboy every Sat&Sun. Taught a couple of dozen people to reload using a RockChucker. Most went on to purchase RockChucker kits, and then progressive presses. Only one of them ever blew up a gun. But he was an IDIOT to began with.

Too many people buy dillons with no experience in reloading, and dillon does nothing to find out if these people have any experience at all.

RCBS HAS HAD THE BEST CUSTOMER SERVICE IN THE RELOADING BUSINESS LOOOONG BEFORE dillon came along.

REDDING HAS TOP NOTCH CUSTOMER SERVICE TOO. THEY JUST RECALIBRATED A 15YR OLD SAECO LEAD HARDNESS TESTER FOR ME AT NO CHARGE, NOT EVEN RETURN SHIPPING.

HORNADY FIXED MY L-N-L 10YRS AGO AT NO CHARGE WHEN I FORCED IT AND BUSTED THE INDEXING SYSTEM.
I swear by my HORNADY. LOVE THE ACCURATE POWDER DROP SYSTEM. IN FACT IT'S SO GOOD, RCBS HAS COPIED IT.

I will always believe the dillon powder measure is an abomination. It's poor design and construction is why dillons blow up so many guns.

[Petrol & Powder]

You can't blame Dillon for having dumb customers. Every manufacturer has some dumb customers and they have no control over that.

As for the Dillon powder measure, I have several that have worked beautifully for years. I guess I just got lucky???

[sawinredneck]

COWBOY ACTION SHOOTERS are the ones who would blow up their guns using a dillon. They were feed the hype about "How easy it is to load on a dillon". Just put a case and bullet in and pull the handle. I know of one guy who said dillon told him the press would arrive ready to load. So he just dumped in some W231 and WSP's and started cranking out ammo. 1st round blew his sixgun to pieces, took 3 of his fingers with it. Cowboy Shooting started here in SoCal. At one time I could go to as many as 7 different matches within a hundred miles of my home. Shoot Cowboy every Sat&Sun. Taught a couple of dozen people to reload using a RockChucker. Most went on to purchase RockChucker kits, and then progressive presses. Only one of them ever blew up a gun. But he was an IDIOT to began with.

Too many people buy dillons with no experience in reloading, and dillon does nothing to find out if these people have any experience at all.


REDDING HAS TOP NOTCH CUSTOMER SERVICE TOO. THEY JUST RECALIBRATED A 15YR OLD SAECO LEAD HARDNESS TESTER FOR ME AT NO CHARGE, NOT EVEN RETURN SHIPPING.

I will always believe the dillon powder measure is an abomination. It's poor design and construction is why dillons blow up so many guns.

Seriously? Honestly, seriously? This is your issue with Dillon? I buy a Dillon that’s “setup” to reload and I don’t check to see the weight of the powder charge and it’s Dillons fault? They know exactly what powder and weight charge I want, because they are mind readers, and my gun blows up?
You can’t be this misinformed. NOTHING comes set up this perfectly! Buy a new computer and you’ll spend an hour setting it up then deal with the updates.
If you buy a press and aren’t smart enough to know you need to check the powder charge, well, I’m not terribly sympathetic to the outcome. Your a moron and probably shouldn’t own a gun to start with!
The Dillon powder measures work very well, if used properly.
Are you trying to tell us if you buy a Hornady progressive press it’s set up perfectly for everyone and every powder out of the box? Well sign me up for one, but I doubt that as well.

I apologize to the administrators, but this is the most ignorant post I’ve ever come across in over 20yrs of being on forums.

[hooterville]

I have a hornady LNL and I have made one adjustment to the pawls since setup and it runs smoothly with no hiccups , I hand feed cases and bullets and still manage to knock out a few hundred an hour and that is not running at full capacity as this old fart cant keep up with all that is going on , but I do enjoy the machine to knock out all the .45 acp and or 9mm I need for a weekends shooting.

[omgb]

Glad to hear it’s not just me.

I’m about ready to just go get a turret, I think it would be faster and save me a lot of money on primers.

Almost every time they get low the slide hangs and I have to remove the whole feed. Even though I slip a card under the tube when I lift it up, it’s impossible to do without spilling primers. I have a 250 grain bullet attached to the top of the plastic rod to keep up feed pressure.

The latest adventure is the rod that actuates the primer slide. Every time the ram goes up and the slide starts to pull back it pulls the rod out of the cup at the bottom.

Ideas, anyone?

I called Hornady and they sent me a couple of the brackets that attach at the top. Installed a new one to no avail.

The primer slide pulls back without much effort, so that’s not the problem.



First things first. Pull the shuttle. Now clean the raceway with brake cleaner. Feel for any burrs. If you feel one, polish it out with 1500 grit sand paper.
Second, clean the shuttle the same way and check for burrs. If you find some, polish in the same way you did above.
Third, take your case mouth chamfer tool and slightly ease or chamfer the top side of the primer shuttle pick up hole. You want a very slight chamfer.
Fourth, reassemble the shuttle and spring assembly. Check for free movement. Now, before you put the primer tube in, raise the press to the top of the stroke and see where the shuttle hole is in relation to the primer tube holder base. It should be dead center. If not, adjust by moving the cam wire in or out as needed. This is done by loosening the screw that holds the upper cam wire capture (black plastic piece screwed to the top of the press frame) Once it's centered, lock down the screw.
Fifth, make sure you are using the correct primer tube. You want the tube that is flat on each end, not the one with the pick up fingers on one end and the clovice pin on the other. That one is for loading your primers in the tube. Assuming you have the correct tube, note that the ends are different. The end with the milled step fits into the primer tube base you have bolted to the press. That step aligns the primer tube dead center with the pick up shuttle hole.

You should be good to go at this point. Oh, the cam wire. The flat end fits into the upper mount. The rounded end goes into the mount attached to the base of the press. If you swap them it won't work.

Check these adjustments out and see if things don't improve. BTW, you have to keep all dirt and powder out of the shuttle slot, especially where the slot apexes into the shell plate. Even one grain of powder or dirt will screw you so get a can of computer air and keep it handy.

[Drew P]

The primer tube also has a very small shelf turned on one end that needs to register down into the slide assembly.

[omgb]

That’s what I said. Was I unclear?

[Drew P]

Yes you we’re sorry. I missed the line about the step. It’s subtle and has bitten me a few times.

[omgb]

No problem. I just thought I was obtuse

[omgb]

With the mods and adjustments I listed I get 100% reliability

[Carrier]

With the mods and adjustments I listed I get 100% reliability

Did you drill the two holes in the case feeder arm to mount the pivot body bracket? I just installed the bracket with the one bolt to see how it would work.

[mwhite49]

Hornady must pay attention to the comments on the press and use those to fix things during production. I purchased mine at the beginning of this year, both small and large primer shuttles were smooth and already had the holes camfered too.

[omgb]

Yes, I marked the hole with a fine point sharply. Then I used my drill press to drill the holes perpendicular to the bar. Then I took my VLD chamfer tool and eased the four holes Tunis is so old the mounting bar is one long piece

[omgb]

You know Hornady listens. That’s why their customer service has improved so much

[parisite]

I have no use for a case feeder or bullet feeder; I have to load the case feeder and bullet feeder by hand first, don't I? So what's the advantage? My LNL press has always ran like a Singer sewing machine.

[calm seas]

omgb, thanks for the step-through on the primer setup, especially the tip on checking the shuttle alignment before inserting a primer tube - so simple a solution I overlooked it.
Drew P, can you explain a little more about how to modify the primer feed so a single grain of powder doesn't hang things? You mentioned it on page one.

First, grind two flats on the primer slide so you create small pockets where dirt can go without gumming up.

[Carrier]

I have no use for a case feeder or bullet feeder; I have to load the case feeder and bullet feeder by hand first, don't I? So what's the advantage? My LNL press has always ran like a Singer sewing machine.

I can’t speak about a bullet feeder but with a case feeder all I do is scoop a couple hundred cases in the bowl, turn it on and start loading. I would never be with out one again.

[LittleLebowski]

COWBOY ACTION SHOOTERS are the ones who would blow up their guns using a dillon. They were feed the hype about "How easy it is to load on a dillon". Just put a case and bullet in and pull the handle. I know of one guy who said dillon told him the press would arrive ready to load. So he just dumped in some W231 and WSP's and started cranking out ammo. 1st round blew his sixgun to pieces, took 3 of his fingers with it. Cowboy Shooting started here in SoCal. At one time I could go to as many as 7 different matches within a hundred miles of my home. Shoot Cowboy every Sat&Sun. Taught a couple of dozen people to reload using a RockChucker. Most went on to purchase RockChucker kits, and then progressive presses. Only one of them ever blew up a gun. But he was an IDIOT to began with.

Too many people buy dillons with no experience in reloading, and dillon does nothing to find out if these people have any experience at all.

RCBS HAS HAD THE BEST CUSTOMER SERVICE IN THE RELOADING BUSINESS LOOOONG BEFORE dillon came along.

REDDING HAS TOP NOTCH CUSTOMER SERVICE TOO. THEY JUST RECALIBRATED A 15YR OLD SAECO LEAD HARDNESS TESTER FOR ME AT NO CHARGE, NOT EVEN RETURN SHIPPING.

HORNADY FIXED MY L-N-L 10YRS AGO AT NO CHARGE WHEN I FORCED IT AND BUSTED THE INDEXING SYSTEM.
I swear by my HORNADY. LOVE THE ACCURATE POWDER DROP SYSTEM. IN FACT IT'S SO GOOD, RCBS HAS COPIED IT.

I will always believe the dillon powder measure is an abomination. It's poor design and construction is why dillons blow up so many guns.

Dillon is not blowing up guns nowadays. It is considered impolite to write in all caps. This forum is known for its courteous members.