Best way to buy Black Powder

[Texas by God]

In my corner of the world none of my LGS carry it. Any North Texans out there have a source. I use Pyrodex but would rather use the real deal!
Thanks, Thomas.

[Ianagos]

Make it yourself. It’s like reloading you spend lots of money on tools to roll your own. It’s also cheaper.

[nicholst55]

You can order it from somewhere like Track of the Wolf, or direct from a distributor. The best way is to find some fellow charcoal burners, and place a group order with the distributor.

[Dan Cash]

Contact Bear River Powder in Eavenston, Wyoming. They will send you a case at the right price with the right service.

[1Hawkeye]

Try Graf & sons last time I looked there prices weren't to bad and I think they even had their own brand and don't waist your time just order a whole case. It makes the haz mat sting charge less.

[Texas by God]

Thank you all! I'll order enough to take the bite out of the hazmat charge. I can smell it now....

[country gent]

I usually order in 25lb case mixed granulations and sometimes brand. I order from buffalo arms normally. They allow mixed cases to get the price break. Order in 25 or 50 lb cases. If you know of others near you with the same desire get together and put together a 50lb order, cuts haz mat way down per pound.

[oldracer]

I buy mine from Coonies' Explosives at: Phone, (575) 393-0166 · Address. 512 E Lea St; Hobbs, New Mexico 88240. I buy by the case and now that I shoot muzzle loaders only a case (25#) lasts quite a while! They used to only take checks but not sure now.

[Edward]

In my corner of the world none of my LGS carry it. Any North Texans out there have a source. I use Pyrodex but would rather use the real deal!
Thanks, Thomas. Powder Inc and that is all you need /thank me later/Ed:bigsmyl2:

[M-Tecs]

Powder Inc and that is all you need /thank me later/Ed:bigsmyl2:

Yep. they are my go to for BP http://powderinc.com/

[RPRNY]

Powder Inc as per above and Buffalo Arms have done me right.

[wgr]

In my corner of the world none of my LGS carry it. Any North Texans out there have a source. I use Pyrodex but would rather use the real deal!
Thanks, Thomas.how far are you from Hobbs NM.

[rfd]

for most of us, bp is a mail order item (mail order at least so far ... who knows how long mail order bp will last?). price it out by checking out all the online bp vendors and just go for the cheapest rates (including shipping and hazmat fees). powderinc, mainpowderhouse, craterfireworks, and lots others.

[Eddie2002]

I've been using the Graf's brand of 3F and really like it. If you order more than 5 lbs the hazmat fee is only $10.00 along with around a 8 dollar handling fee. They also have 1000 packs of #11 caps for a lot less than my LGS.

[GoexBlackhorn]

Grafs is cheaper for the small volume buyer. Around $20 Hazmat plus around $7 for shipping.

[waksupi]

By the case is the only sensible way to order. It doesn't go bad, price will always go up. Sell a little to others if you want to cut costs. A case lasts me quite awhile, as at shoots I will always pick up a pound of powder from the prize blankets and usually come out 5-6 pounds ahead by the end of season.

[OverMax]

Last time I bought Gorex 2FFG across the the counter at TOTW it was 6.00 ($) a lb cash & carry and at that time. I was told at the counter it would be beneficial (cheaper priced) for me to find someone to split a case or purchase a whole a case myself. >i.e. no doubt the best way to buy powder back then. (maybe yet today too? ) Flush with cash working two jobs. I bought a case. (Great advice John.) "And glad I did" No regrets what-so-ever.
BTW: What is the going price these days Texas by God?

[Texas by God]

how far are you from Hobbs NM.About 6 hrs if I drive 85 mph the whole way.[emoji16]

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[Texas by God]

Thanks, all! Graf's will be hearing from me soon.

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[ShooterAZ]

I buy Goex from Graf's by the case, and split it up with friends. A half case will last me a couple of years (at least). I take it you got the Tornado brush out of your renegade?

[Texas by God]

I buy Goex from Graf's by the case, and split it up with friends. A half case will last me a couple of years (at least). I take it you got the Tornado brush out of your renegade?By golly I did. I (hopefully) won't do that ever again. Re check the thread haha. Thanks for asking!

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[1Hawkeye]

Don't worry about the stuck brush Tex if you haven't hung something up in a barrel you haven't played with them long enough. My wife and I have had many a tug o war because I hung up that last dry patch when cleaning a muzzleloader's barrel before the oily patch went down the bore.

[GoexBlackhorn]

Seems we all have a particular ML barrel where brass brushing is really tight. I don't dare brass-ramrod my inline Knight Vision without oil. Even the wettest cleaners like Butch's Blackpowder Bore Shine or Hoppes Elite Gun Cleaner get that brush stuck in the bore. Now I use black nylon brushes instead and even those are tight, requiring hard pushes and pulls with a 2-1/2 round patch leading the brush

A few years ago Knight had a Christmas sale on the Vision for $199. Now I think I know why........ smaller-than-normal cut bores. My opinion anyways.

[mooman76]

I always use a well worn brush in my barrel when I run a brush down the bore. When you get down to the breach area turn the brush clock wise to turn the bristles of the brush so when pulling out, they don't have to reverse themselves.

[Eddie2002]

Clockwise is good, it tightens the threads on the brush. Also don't buy the cheepo cleaning brushes with aluminum tips, they can pull apart in a tight bore.

[1Hawkeye]

I got away from using brushes years ago. If I'm cleaning in the shop I use solvent if outside or around the campfire just water hot or cold with a 2 x 2 piece of hospital gauze for a patch on the brass jag. I have found the gauze more porous and removes fowling better than a regular cleaning patch and cheaper too. A 2 x 2 will fit from .45 on up without having to trim it down. They also work well for swabbing between shots.

[mooman76]

If you do by chance get a brush stuck and it comes loose or is broken, best way to get it out is with a piece of tubing as close to bore size as you can. Push it down the barrel over the brush. The tubing grabs the brush and releases it from the bore. Then it will come right out.

[Texas by God]

If you do by chance get a brush stuck and it comes loose or is broken, best way to get it out is with a piece of tubing as close to bore size as you can. Push it down the barrel over the brush. The tubing grabs the brush and releases it from the bore. Then it will come right out.As long as it's not a tornado brush. As I learned[emoji16]

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[Regular Joe]

Seems we all have a particular ML barrel where brass brushing is really tight. I don't dare brass-ramrod my inline Knight Vision without oil. Even the wettest cleaners like Butch's Blackpowder Bore Shine or Hoppes Elite Gun Cleaner get that brush stuck in the bore. Now I use black nylon brushes instead and even those are tight, requiring hard pushes and pulls with a 2-1/2 round patch leading the brush

A few years ago Knight had a Christmas sale on the Vision for $199. Now I think I know why........ smaller-than-normal cut bores. My opinion anyways.
What's a good source for nylon brushes?

[GoexBlackhorn]

MidwayUSA
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1002222979/cva-muzzleloading-cleaning-brush-50-caliber-10-x-32-thread-nylon

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1002222979/cva-muzzleloading-cleaning-brush-50-caliber-10-x-32-thread-nylon

[tranders]

Ask around and see if you have any BP clubs or shoots in your area. Multiple guys placing an order will ease the shipping rates.

For me I pick my BP up when I head to Friendship for the Spring and Fall shoots. Luckily it's only about 70 miles from where I live.

[Hanshi]

With chronic supply problems being the rule, I order powder by the case. It brings the cost per pound way down compared with gun stores which often don't even stock it. A case, for me, is 25 pounds in, usually, one lb cans. The hazmat fee is the same whether 5 lbs or 50 lbs.

[rfd]

With chronic supply problems being the rule, I order powder by the case. It brings the cost per pound way down compared with gun stores which often don't even stock it. A case, for me, is 25 pounds in, usually, one lb cans. The hazmat fee is the same whether 5 lbs or 50 lbs.

+1 ... this is the way to go. if that's too much in terms of money and/or quantity, do a group buy with locals, friends, clubs.

[Hellgate]

You could order 25 or 50 lbs of 5FA which is the same granulation as FFFg without the graphiting. It is a tiny tad faster than FFFg but a whole lot cheaper. Save your cans to repackage is as it comes in a 25# bag.

[gpidaho]

Graf's brand powder is Wano. Just got 4lbs of fffg and a one pound can of ffg. I'm just getting started with BP but it seems to work just fine. Locally the shops only carry subs. so it's mail order for me hazmat or no. Gp

[GoexBlackhorn]

I think Wano is in their rear view mirror these days.
I heard Grafs is now Schuetzen relabeled.

[rfd]

i also just heard that graf's is schuetzen. it's all good, but gimme the best ... swiss!

[GoexBlackhorn]

Agree.... Swiss, followed by Olde Eynsford.
I can't find either around here. Must go to Bass Pro Shop for my Goex. I use one jug every 2 years....lol

[rfd]

mail order, Mail Order, MAIL ORDER ... for as long as that will last ....

[dsayer]

Doesn't Bass Pro usually carry Goex? Last time I was at my local store they said they were out and that Goex was out of business though. But I think that rumor has circulated a few times before and been incorrect.

[indian joe]

you could order 25 or 50 lbs of 5fa which is the same granulation as fffg without the graphiting. It is a tiny tad faster than fffg but a whole lot cheaper. Save your cans to repackage is as it comes in a 25# bag.

yes!!!!!!!