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brstevns
01-29-2018, 11:31 PM
Was given some 500gr cast bullet for my 45/70. Hate to melt them down, is anyone using Unique with this weight ?
Something around 1000 fps.

brstevns
01-30-2018, 01:07 PM
No one ?

Jeff R
01-30-2018, 01:54 PM
I have a re-print of an old Lyman "Handbook of Cast Bullets." I think it was published in the 50's. It has .45-70 data for the Lyman 457406, 500gr., Gas Check Boolit. For Unique, it lists two loads:
15.0gr. ===>1350fps
20.0gr. (listed as MAX charge) ===>1625fps
Use at your own risk. Hope this helps.
Jeff

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brstevns
01-30-2018, 07:23 PM
Those seem way over max to me. Thinking more like 10gr to 14 gr.

1Hawkeye
01-31-2018, 07:16 PM
They are. For a trapdoor starting load is 9.0 @ 892 fps and max is 13.0 grs @ 1114 fps from the 44th edition lyman book. I would try either 9.0 or 10.0 grains. In the trapdoor I had, 10.0 grains of unique averaged between 855 and 857 fps for a ten shot string using the lyman 457125 govt bullet.

arlon
01-31-2018, 08:59 PM
They are. For a trapdoor starting load is 9.0 @ 892 fps and max is 13.0 grs @ 1114 fps from the 44th edition lyman book. I would try either 9.0 or 10.0 grains. In the trapdoor I had, 10.0 grains of unique averaged between 855 and 857 fps for a ten shot string using the lyman 457125 govt bullet.

Repro trapdoor or Springfield?
I have a Springfield but never shoot it. I always stick the 45-70 rounds into a reworked Danish Krag (slightly stronger than Springfield but nothing like a Ruger #1 either).

What gun you loading them for (OP)?

brstevns
01-31-2018, 10:52 PM
Repro trapdoor or Springfield?
I have a Springfield but never shoot it. I always stick the 45-70 rounds into a reworked Danish Krag (slightly stronger than Springfield but nothing like a Ruger #1 either).

What gun you loading them for (OP)?

A Ruger Number 1

KenH
01-31-2018, 11:04 PM
They are. For a trapdoor starting load is 9.0 @ 892 fps and max is 13.0 grs @ 1114 fps from the 44th edition lyman book. I would try either 9.0 or 10.0 grains. In the trapdoor I had, 10.0 grains of unique averaged between 855 and 857 fps for a ten shot string using the lyman 457125 govt bullet.

There's your answer since you mentioned you are looking for something in the 1000 fps range. Comfortable shooting and what I like in my 45-70's

Michael J. Spangler
01-31-2018, 11:28 PM
http://www.gmdr.com/lever/lowveldata.htm

Noting for a 500 with unique but plenty of other powder.

My old Lyman manual shows 9-13 grains of unique for a 482 grain and 9-12 grains for a 552 grain.

brstevns
02-01-2018, 11:32 AM
Thanks everyone,will give 10gr a try and see how it performs.

JSnover
02-01-2018, 11:45 AM
I shot 10.0 grains of Unique under a 500 grain boolit for an entire summer and really liked it.
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