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mickbr
01-23-2018, 12:15 AM
Hi the forum. Just dropped in with a fairly specific question, thanks if anyone can help. Intending to get a Rossi 92 in 357 to run subsonic loads , light loads of trailboss etc, with heavier cast bullets.

Wondered if anyone knew how the Rossi's relatively slow twist 1:30 might handle 158 bullets under 1100fps?

Its pretty important for me to find a bullet this weight that can manage 4-5" at 100 yards and stay subsonic . Am I in the ballpark or is the twist going to be too slow at this speed?

Artful
01-23-2018, 05:50 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-knJmz6HE0
Works good for me - 160 FN over Red Dot - I've used up to 180 grain, but you have to watch boolit shape and COAL for good feeding.
Capable of bouncing Golf balls at 50 to 100 yards

oteroman
01-23-2018, 10:09 AM
3.7 clays with Lee 158gr. FP 1”-2” @ 100yards hi-tek coated


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oteroman
01-23-2018, 10:10 AM
Those Rossi’s in 357 are ver accurate IMO.


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Outpost75
01-23-2018, 04:24 PM
Factory .38 Special LRNs aren't more than 1000 fps out of the Rossi carbine and shoot 3-4" groups at 100 yards with the open iron sights. Good enough.

outdoorfan
01-26-2018, 07:36 PM
Not the weight you asked for, but interesting enough at least. 180 gr. wfn hp. Red Dot or Unique for ~800 fps. 10 shots at 100 yards usually 6 inches, but usually 7-8 of those would go into 3 inches or even less.

Kestrel4k
02-02-2018, 01:49 PM
OP, although I have done /much/ subsonic load development for my 77/357, I have had rather more failures than success. I will say that I have done best with Trail Boss & Red Dot, and also using .38Spl cases rather than .357Mag. I know that seems counterintuitive, but the slightly smaller case capacity has given me more charge flexibility - obtaining high enough pressures to ensure consistent powder burn while keeping velocities lower (i.e. more subsonic loadings). Good luck & please keep us updated.

Edit: Since Unique was mentioned earlier (w/ 180gr); I have obtained /excellent/ accuracy w/ 158gr's, but only at 1200fps minimum. Dropping Unique charges below that, accuracy deteriorated rapidly. But I was getting 3/4" groups at 50 yds @ 1200 fps - was so disappointed I couldn't extend that to the subsonics. If I pursued that angle of inquiry further, I would also use the 180gr's at an absolute minimum.

brewer12345
02-04-2018, 08:41 PM
I shoot a lot of 158 to 170 grain RNFP out of mine in 38 special cases with 3.8 to 4.0 grains of HP38. I will let you tell me if that is subsonic out a 24" barrel (I suspect it is, but do not have a chronograph), but the accuracy is limited by my eyesight (no way to scope the octagon barrel). I suspect you could do a similar load with a touch more powder in a 357 case.

MT Gianni
02-05-2018, 12:40 PM
For what ever reason mine will not chamber anything wider than a 358156. The good news that it shoots great fast or slow.

chickenstripe
02-09-2018, 03:55 PM
I've developed loads under 600fps with a 173gr boolit (Keith I believe)..... 1-1.5gr of 231 I believe (I'd have to check my records). Hits to point of aim at 25yds, but the entire boolit profile is apparent on the paper. I developed this for raccoons one year. I was originally concerned about the keyholing until I tried the load out on a raccoon.... raccoon didn't know the difference, and it was nose to tail penetration DRT. I burned up the reaminder of the ammo when the critter problem subsided.... Can't comment on the accuracy, other than I could hit a 5 gallon bucket at 100yds +/- 95% of the time, once I figured out the drop.

I guess it depends on what you're trying to do/hit?