Russian Paradox mold came in today

[Blood Trail]

Just cast a couple with my new Russian paradox mold. They gave me an extra insert for a hollow base slug (to shoot without the special tail wad), so I’m sure a lot of guys will be pleased with that. The slug with the tail wad comes in around 538 grs While the slug with the hollow base pin comes in at 640 grs.

I am super excited about testing these!

This is one of the molds I’ll be selling in the upcoming weeks.

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[copdills]

Nice looking slug , please give us a report of how she acts

[KrakenFan69]

Man am I jealous! I'm still waiting on my Russian mold and tail wads. Likely another week for the mold and at least 2 for the wads! ugh... I want to cast and test so bad I can't see straight! It was basically -33 Deg C here all last week so some nice slug casting would have really fit the bill!

Kraken Fan #69

[rancher1913]

mine says to expect it sometime the first of next month.

[tomme boy]

Are you selling them here on this site or ????????

[Blood Trail]

Are you selling them here on this site or ????????

I’ll do both.


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[longbow]

I'm liking this stuff!

All I've got for a new mould is the Lee 7/8 oz. not that there is anything wrong with that but I do like the Russian Tusker. I may have to join you guys supporting the Russians. It seems they are the only one doing innovative things with slugs these days.

I have enough slugs cast for testing to do myself permanent injury! Now to find some time to load and shoot.

There is a local guy here who bought a couple of the Russian moulds but so far only the Lyman sabot slug clone which I want to try and round ball.

I'm thinking a Tusker mould may be in my future.

BT: Are the tail wads the same for the Paradox and Tusker? If so then that makes it easy to get two or three different moulds and use same tail wads.

Longbow

[Blood Trail]

I'm liking this stuff!

All I've got for a new mould is the Lee 7/8 oz. not that there is anything wrong with that but I do like the Russian Tusker. I may have to join you guys supporting the Russians. It seems they are the only one doing innovative things with slugs these days.

I have enough slugs cast for testing to do myself permanent injury! Now to find some time to load and shoot.

There is a local guy here who bought a couple of the Russian moulds but so far only the Lyman sabot slug clone which I want to try and round ball.

I'm thinking a Tusker mould may be in my future.

BT: Are the tail wads the same for the Paradox and Tusker? If so then that makes it easy to get two or three different moulds and use same tail wads.

Longbow

LB,

Yessir. The tail wads are interchangeable.


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[longbow]

Now that's good to know!

I am really thinking on that Tusker clone and buying a couple thousand tail wads.

Same tail wad for the Gualandi clone too I'm guessing? Now that would be nice. I think I like the Paradox and Tusker styles best though.

Have you tried any cast solid without tail wad in a rifled gun? Or even with the HB but no tail wad in rifled gun? I would figure they'd shoot well and likely better without the tail wad in rifled gun.

Longbow

[GunFun]

Where do you get the wads?

Also what is the diameter of the slug, etc? This looks like the mold I have been wanting forever.

[tomme boy]

What about the two banded one? I thought they had a base plug to make this a two band.

Thinking about this. I have about 20,000 Herters and Alcan fiber base wads and cards. Bought them at a auction for $2. Just want to see how this works out first

[Blood Trail]

What about the two banded one? I thought they had a base plug to make this a two band.

Thinking about this. I have about 20,000 Herters and Alcan fiber base wads and cards. Bought them at a auction for $2. Just want to see how this works out first

The two band slug worked well with Blue Dot from a smoothbore. The Range was 50 yards.

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[Blood Trail]

Now that's good to know!

I am really thinking on that Tusker clone and buying a couple thousand tail wads.

Same tail wad for the Gualandi clone too I'm guessing? Now that would be nice. I think I like the Paradox and Tusker styles best though.

Have you tried any cast solid without tail wad in a rifled gun? Or even with the HB but no tail wad in rifled gun? I would figure they'd shoot well and likely better without the tail wad in rifled gun.

Longbow

I just tested some without the tail wad. Needs more tweaking. 4-5” groups at 50 yards. This was out of my smoothbore. I’ll post some groups in a few.


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[longbow]

Those 2 band slugs are looking good from smoothbore.

How much tighter are groups from rifled gun?

Maybe you've posted that already but I'm on my cell phone and find it hard to navigate. Sorry.

[Blood Trail]

Those 2 band slugs are looking good from smoothbore.

How much tighter are groups from rifled gun?

Maybe you've posted that already but I'm on my cell phone and find it hard to navigate. Sorry.

LB, I haven’t shot the new slugs from a rifled barrel yet. I’ll do that next outing.


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[tomme boy]

Blood, the two banded one is this mold with a longer base pin right so you can do 2 band and 3 band?

[longbow]

Hmmmm... I just had another idea too. My home made mould HB plug can be easily altered. I could take my turbo1889 design and make a new HB plug to suit those Russian tail wads. That would likely be a good design as the slug itself is supposed to shoot quite well... and I'll be finding out shortly.

I better check out tail wad availability. Its likely worth buying some and trying this. I may look at the Tusker mould too. Unfortunately I am on 1/2 hours for now so we'll have to see how the toy budget holds up.

[fenman]

Cool may ask what are the out side Dimensions ?

[missionary5155]

Good morning
Russians have always been a very practical people looking for simple results understanding what hunters need.
I am impressed ! That is fine accuracy at 50 yards.
What kind of penetration is there wacking into solid materials ??? Couple sheets of 3/4 plywood would be a good test. Maybe even a 1/16 sheet of metal in there to represent pig grizzle.
Mike in Peru

[cwlongshot]

Any more info on this slug and its preformance?

I just picked this one up myself. Along with some
Wads. But looking for more wads.

CW

[Keith]

I found this on Australian ebay.
is this the same mold?
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Bullet-Slug-Mold-mould-Svarog-Paradox-12-gauge-3-in-1-Full-complete-set-New/273779281467?hash=item3fbe844e3b:g:~6kAAOSwOuBbqJ4 B

[Blood Trail]

I found this on Australian ebay.
is this the same mold?
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Bullet-Slug-Mold-mould-Svarog-Paradox-12-gauge-3-in-1-Full-complete-set-New/273779281467?hash=item3fbe844e3b:g:~6kAAOSwOuBbqJ4 B

Yes. That’s the new style. Comes with a “universal” center pin that casts the slug with a hole in the meplat so you can screw any wad to it.


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[Keith]

Cant find any wads on ebay. Anyone know a supplier that ships to Australia?

[cwlongshot]

I just got some butbit did take much search!! No idea if they shop to aus.

[SHORT SHELL]

Cant find any wads on ebay. Anyone know a supplier that ships to Australia?

Hi Keith, TOP SHOT in Brendle have them. See their web site. RON

[Keith]

I found a couple of Ebay suppliers . One wont ship to Australia but the other will.
Before I splash out, a question. Do these slugs need lubing? Does the lead to barrel friction cause leading?
The other slugs I shoot are enclosed in a wad so I wondered how these work.

These look like them
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Special-plastic-shank-12-gauge-for-bullets-paradox-Italian-reloading-140-pcs/384031993832

[Keith]

Hi Keith, TOP SHOT in Brendle have them. See their web site. RON

Looked there Ron. Under BPI products lots of cork and buffer and MEC wads but could not see these plug in tail wads.
Keith

[cwlongshot]

I found a couple of Ebay suppliers . One wont ship to Australia but the other will.
Before I splash out, a question. Do these slugs need lubing? Does the lead to barrel friction cause leading?
The other slugs I shoot are enclosed in a wad so I wondered how these work.

These look like them
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Special-plastic-shank-12-gauge-for-bullets-paradox-Italian-reloading-140-pcs/384031993832

I intend to use dead soft, moderate hard, with TIN and WW "hard" as hardest. Ill also be Powder Coating all.

I do not believe that leading is a large issue. Factory is not lubed. With the PC, I wont worry and at same time, will allow me imidiate identification of hardness. (And intended uses) But I dont see how lubing them would be a negative.

CW

[Keith]

Can you roll crimp the Paradox or does the taper jam it?

[cwlongshot]

I will be roll Crimping.