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tazman
12-15-2017, 04:02 PM
Springfield Armory is offering their TRP 1911 in 10mm. It comes in both 5 inch and 6 inch longslide.
http://www.springfield-armory.com/products/1911-trp-10mm/

Ramjet-SS
12-15-2017, 04:17 PM
purpose built ground up design using proven concepts but improving the high stress area.....outstanding

Tom W.
12-15-2017, 04:17 PM
I still can't warm up to an ambidextrous safety.

sawinredneck
12-15-2017, 06:39 PM
I was liking it until I saw the price, yikes!

waco
12-15-2017, 07:42 PM
Wonder what a real world street price is? Sweet looking gun.....

CHeatermk3
12-15-2017, 09:31 PM
Ambi safety is great for lefties and weak-hand shooting too.

10-x
12-15-2017, 10:05 PM
Gee, for that price one can find an older Colt in .38 super.

maxreloader
12-15-2017, 10:45 PM
Gee, for that price one can find an older Colt in .38 super.

or you could pick up a new Sig P220 in 10mm with enough cash left over to buy a Glock 29 and a box of ammo :bigsmyl2:

EMC45
12-15-2017, 11:15 PM
I want!

osteodoc08
12-16-2017, 10:12 AM
Retail to Retail:

SA TRP $1790

P220 Hunter $1629

I wonder what the street price will be.

tazman
12-16-2017, 08:27 PM
Gunbroker has one listed for $1799.
I wasn't expecting to find one listed yet but there is one and just one.

Texas by God
12-16-2017, 09:35 PM
The longslide ten is a hot item nowadays. The Iver Johnson(Armscor) looks good for the money. They go up from there. I sure want one-or a .41 mag revolver........

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ikarus1
12-16-2017, 09:44 PM
Ruger will sell 10 of their 10mm 1911s for every one of these at more than twice the price. And wont sell out the 2A by signing off on infringing state laws like SA did in Illinois

NavyVet1959
12-16-2017, 10:11 PM
Seems a bit overpriced... Plus, it's only a single stack. I would rather have the Para P16-40 and then increase the leade so that it could handle .40SW brass loaded to 10mm OAL and then load it to 10mm pressure. For day to day carry though, I prefer a slightly shorter barrel. Something along size of the RIA mid-size double-stack M1911 (i.e. 4.25" barrel). I already have a RIA single-stack 10mm full size M1911, so the Springfield offering doesn't particularly make me want to jump up and go buy it.

DougGuy
12-16-2017, 10:18 PM
How do they arrive at a "heavier slide/barrel combo?"

tazman
12-16-2017, 10:31 PM
How do they arrive at a "heavier slide/barrel combo?"

I assume it is because of the available long slide with the extra length and hence heavier. I could be very wrong about that though.

ammohead
12-16-2017, 10:33 PM
How do they arrive at a "heavier slide/barrel combo?"

Smaller hole = more steel.

tazman
12-16-2017, 10:39 PM
I just checked their posted spec. The only version of the 10mm that is heavier than the 45acp model is the longslide.
The standard mil-spec version is only 1 ounce different. Not enough to matter.
The longslide is 5 ounces heavier.

vzerone
12-16-2017, 11:25 PM
Save yourself about $1100 and buy an Iver Johnson longslide. Forged steel slide, cast steel frame, BoMar type rear sight, dovetailed front sight, and many more features either in ported barrel, non ported, blue or stainless. The blue model is running about $600 something from Bud's gunshop. Had mine for nearly a year and been shoot factory equivalent loads from it and nary a problems and nothing has gotten loose, or the frame peening. Singe recoil spring and with a non ramped barrel. None of the hype about how they beefed it up like the Springfield, heck Colt doesn't even do that. The new Colt Delta Elites are improved from the first models, but nothing really beefed up. I believe the do use dual recoil springs, but then again they are five inch barrels. Like Springfield, Colt is over prices and so is Dan Wesson and Sig. Now the Glock 10mm isn't so expensive. I have that in a long slide and it's dynamite. I thought when I got the 1911 10mm longslide the recoil would be more then Glock, but it's not. The Glocks polymer frame does a good job of soaking up the recoil. Just my 2 cents.

sawinredneck
12-16-2017, 11:25 PM
Seems a bit overpriced... Plus, it's only a single stack. I would rather have the Para P16-40 and then increase the leade so that it could handle .40SW brass loaded to 10mm OAL and then load it to 10mm pressure. For day to day carry though, I prefer a slightly shorter barrel. Something along size of the RIA mid-size double-stack M1911 (i.e. 4.25" barrel). I already have a RIA single-stack 10mm full size M1911, so the Springfield offering doesn't particularly make me want to jump up and go buy it.

For the money, the RIA double stack 10mm has my interest.

lefty o
12-16-2017, 11:46 PM
Ruger will sell 10 of their 10mm 1911s for every one of these at more than twice the price. And wont sell out the 2A by signing off on infringing state laws like SA did in Illinois

say what?? you do know bill ruger sold out the 2A long before all the other gun companies that have done it. old bill ruger didnt think anyone except police or military needed magazines that held more than 10rnds.

NavyVet1959
12-17-2017, 12:18 AM
For the money, the RIA double stack 10mm has my interest.

The RIA single stack is pretty robust. I accidentally loaded Alliant Promo (Red Dot equiv) instead of Longshot in was was supposed to just be a warm 10mm load of 8.6gr of Longshot with a 216 gr bullet. According to Quickload, it ended up being quite a bit more than that -- 167K psi. The gun and magazine kind of disassembled itself in my hand, but once I put the grips back on it and reassembled the magazine, it worked fine with no signs of damage.

http://images.spambob.net/navy-vet-1959/ria-10mm-ruptured-brass.jpg

I also ended up replacing the reverse plug since it looked like it might have either been damaged during that incident or maybe sometimes in the past.

http://images.spambob.net/navy-vet-1959/ria-10mm-recoil-spring-reverse-plug.jpg

ebner glocken
12-17-2017, 12:28 AM
I have a RIA single stack and love it. I'm thinking I could buy 2 more for the same price. Sorry springfield.

Ebner

TheDoctor
12-17-2017, 06:56 PM
Still waiting on the other 10mm they are supposed to put out this year, XDm in 10mm!

osteodoc08
12-17-2017, 07:56 PM
Still waiting on the other 10mm they are supposed to put out this year, XDm in 10mm!


This would replace my Glock in a nanosecond

Ramjet-SS
12-17-2017, 10:31 PM
I also like the idea of the XDM I will own both...

ReloaderFred
12-18-2017, 01:36 AM
I'll ask them about the XDm in 10mm at the SHOT Show next month. I'll also look at their 10mm 1911's, just out of curiosity. The 10mm XDm would go good with my 9x19, 357 Sig and .45 acp XD's. I'd really like to have one in .38 Super, but I doubt that's in the cards.

Fred

osteodoc08
12-18-2017, 06:45 AM
They had a video online about them announcing a 10mm XDM early this year. Certainly it has to be ready for SHOTSHOW 2018 by now and start seeing them this spring and summer coming up.

Mr_Sheesh
12-18-2017, 07:01 AM
167kPSI, DANG. I try to stay under 60kPSI even in the heavy barrel rifles etc. here, that sounds "exciting" and after I hit 30 or so I found I don't like that so much... Interesting gun, too.

vzerone
12-18-2017, 11:33 AM
The RIA single stack is pretty robust. I accidentally loaded Alliant Promo (Red Dot equiv) instead of Longshot in was was supposed to just be a warm 10mm load of 8.6gr of Longshot with a 216 gr bullet. According to Quickload, it ended up being quite a bit more than that -- 167K psi. The gun and magazine kind of disassembled itself in my hand, but once I put the grips back on it and reassembled the magazine, it worked fine with no signs of damage.

http://images.spambob.net/navy-vet-1959/ria-10mm-ruptured-brass.jpg

I also ended up replacing the reverse plug since it looked like it might have either been damaged during that incident or maybe sometimes in the past.

http://images.spambob.net/navy-vet-1959/ria-10mm-recoil-spring-reverse-plug.jpg

What happened is the pressure blew the case and dumped most of it down the magazine well, much as what AR's do. If the gas had been more contained the results would have been much more disasterous. I'm glad that you are okay and I'll bet the you got your hands stung by the grips!

vzerone
12-18-2017, 11:34 AM
I'll ask them about the XDm in 10mm at the SHOT Show next month. I'll also look at their 10mm 1911's, just out of curiosity. The 10mm XDm would go good with my 9x19, 357 Sig and .45 acp XD's. I'd really like to have one in .38 Super, but I doubt that's in the cards.

Fred

I have 4 38 Supers! I love the round.

ReloaderFred
12-18-2017, 12:23 PM
I've got a stable full of .38 Supers, and recently sold my 1911 in that caliber. I just think the XD would be a good platform for a high capacity .38 Super, or even better, a 9x23 Winchester. I was told that the guy who runs the Springfield custom shop made an XD for himself in 9x23. He's never been in the Springfield booth at the show when I've been there, since I'd like to talk to him about it. I'm hoping they'll have their 10mm XD on display, and if so, I'll order one at the show.

Hope this helps.

Fred

vzerone
12-18-2017, 12:57 PM
I've got a stable full of .38 Supers, and recently sold my 1911 in that caliber. I just think the XD would be a good platform for a high capacity .38 Super, or even better, a 9x23 Winchester. I was told that the guy who runs the Springfield custom shop made an XD for himself in 9x23. He's never been in the Springfield booth at the show when I've been there, since I'd like to talk to him about it. I'm hoping they'll have their 10mm XD on display, and if so, I'll order one at the show.

Hope this helps.

Fred

Well truth be told Fred I have a Tokarev in 9x23 which also shoots the 38 Super very well!

ReloaderFred
12-18-2017, 02:00 PM
I've got a Witness with a 9x23 Nowlin barrel, and I had a Ruger Blackhawk rechambered to 9x23. They both shoot sweet! My favorite long range 9mm handguns are the two 9x25 Dillon pistols, though.

Fred

vzerone
12-18-2017, 06:38 PM
If NavyVet and Fred want to see an impressive pistol check out the fk brno 7.5mm. The three of us together could barely afford it though.

ikarus1
01-11-2018, 02:41 PM
say what?? you do know bill ruger sold out the 2A long before all the other gun companies that have done it. old bill ruger didnt think anyone except police or military needed magazines that held more than 10rnds.

Bill is long gone, Ruger makes ARs and 25rd mags for 10/22s now. I'm talking about the present and not 30 years ago. We've all seen the results of stuff like the AWB of 1994 etc.

9.3X62AL
01-11-2018, 05:19 PM
That old 10mm just refuses to go away.

Tyguy95
01-12-2018, 10:10 PM
I bought an ria matchtac 2011 in 10mm a few years back loaded up some 200gr hornady ftp bullets and man did I fall in love. Will punch a softball sized hole through a coyote at 30yds

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9.3X62AL
01-12-2018, 10:25 PM
The 200 grain bullet has its natural home in the 10mm. Norma-level loads that ran this bullet weight to 1200 FPS are what beat up the Colt Delta-series 1911A1 platforms, and I don't think they would do my Glocks a lot of good either. The S&W 1006 and 1026 I once owned just doted on the Norma-level stuff, though. When I have used the 200s, cast or jacketed, most of them got a speed limit of 1100 FPS. 1200 FPS with 200 grainers is a bit of a handful.

Most factory 10mm ammo runs a 180 grain bullet at 1125-1140 FPS. Federal has their "FBI Lite" loading that runs the 180 grainers at 1030 FPS. (This seems quite 40 Short & Weak-like). Winchester's Silvertip 175 grainers ran 1275 FPS from the 5" S&W barrels and get about 1225-1240 from my Glock 20's 4.6" tube. This is probably the warmest factory load I will try in the Glocks. I have used Hornady 180s with Blue Dot and AA-9 to load practice duplicators with. I have yet to try any castings through an OEM Glock 9mm, 40 S&W, or 10mm barrel. I need to get aroundtuit eventually.