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LIMPINGJ
12-01-2017, 10:56 PM
I need to replace my stock of carry ammo for my 3&1/2” S&W m27. Is any current ammo loaded to the level of older ammo? We didn’t chronological it but some new Remington 125gr I shot with my brother the other day seemed lighter than my old stock. Has anyone get any chrono data on any current offerings of 357mag 125gr?
Thanks

FergusonTO35
12-02-2017, 10:24 AM
Reloads or Buffalo Bore.

Groo
12-02-2017, 04:53 PM
Groo here
Also Corbon and Underwood.

Rodfac
12-13-2017, 10:30 PM
Through my S&W M19 with a 4" barrel, new manufacture Remington 125 gr. JSP's chrono at 1285 fps with an extreme spread of 15 fps. Accuracy at 25 yds was under 2" for a 6-shot group. It's a good load for carry, but the JHP version may be more to your liking. At 1285 fps, the SP is manageable in a K-frame for follow up shots. It'd be even easier in your N-frame. JMHO, YMMV, HTH's Rod

gray wolf
12-14-2017, 08:43 PM
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357 Magnum Ballistics Chart
Blazer Ammunition Ballistics
Round Type Weight Muzzle Energy ft·lb Muzzle Velocity ft/sec.
357 Magnum JHP 158 494 1150
** Blazer Brass **
357 Magnum JHP 158 548 1250
Buffalo Bore Ammunition Ballistics
Round Type Weight Muzzle Energy ft·lb Muzzle Velocity ft/sec.
357 Magnum JHC 125 802 1700
357 Magnum BXPB 125 750 1650
357 Magnum JHC 158 763 1475
357 Magnum LFN-GC 180 783 1400
Cor-Bon Ammunition Ballistics
Round Type Weight Muzzle Energy ft·lb Muzzle Velocity ft/sec.
357 Magnum JHP 110 549 1500
357 Magnum JHP 125 544 1400
357 Magnum JHP 140 525 1300
357 Magnum DPX JHP 125 469 1300
** Glaser Safety Slug **
357 Magnum SS 80 484 1650
** Pow'r Ball **
357 Magnum PB 100 467 1450
Double Tap Ammunition Ballistics
Round Type Weight Muzzle Energy ft·lb Muzzle Velocity ft/sec.
357 Magnum TAX-XP 110 657 1640
357 Magnum SJHP 125 710 1600
357 Magnum WFNGC 180 676 1300
357 Magnum WFNGC 200 640 1200
357 Magnum BDJHP 125 710 1600
357 Magnum BDJHP 158 688 1400
357 Magnum NJHP 158 688 1400
Extreme Shock Ammunition Ballistics
Round Type Weight Muzzle Energy ft·lb Muzzle Velocity ft/sec.
357 Magnum AFR 85 570 1738
357 Magnum EPR 115 618 1498
357 Magnum FF 124 618 1498
Federal Ammunition Ballistics
Round Type Weight Muzzle Energy ft·lb Muzzle Velocity ft/sec.
357 Magnum JHP 125 575 1440
357 Magnum Hyd-shok 130 574 1410
357 Magnum Vital-shok 140 609 1400
357 Magnum JSP 158 539 1240
357 Magnum JHP 158 539 1240
357 Magnum Hyd-shok 158 539 1240
357 Magnum Powr-shok 180 466 1080
357 Magnum Vital-shok 180 510 1130
Fiocchi Ammunition Ballistics
Round Type Weight Muzzle Energy ft·lb Muzzle Velocity ft/sec.
357 Magnum SJSP 125 755 1650
357 Magnum SJHP 125 755 1650
357 Magnum FMJTC 142 618 1420
357 Magnum JHP 148 571 1375
357 Magnum XTP JHP 158 548 1250
Grizzly Ammunition Ballistics
Round Type Weight Muzzle Energy ft·lb Muzzle Velocity ft/sec.
357 Magnum WFNGC 180 728 1350
357 Magnum PUNCH 150 653 1400
357 Magnum JHP 158 688 1400
357 Magnum JSP 158 688 1400
Hornady Ammunition Ballistics
Round Type Weight Muzzle Energy ft·lb Muzzle Velocity ft/sec.
357 Magnum HP XTP 125 624 1500
357 Magnum HP XTP 140 566 1350
357 Magnum FTX 140 644 1440
357 Magnum HP XTP 158 548 1250
Magsafe Ammunition Ballistics
Round Type Weight Muzzle Energy ft·lb Muzzle Velocity ft/sec.
357 Magnum Defender 70 402 1670
357 Magnum Swat 37 436 2300
Magtech Ammunition Ballistics
Round Type Weight Muzzle Energy ft·lb Muzzle Velocity ft/sec.
357 Magnum SJFP 158 535 1235
357 Magnum SJFP 158 535 1235
357 Magnum LSWC 158 535 1235
357 Magnum FMJF 158 535 1235
357 Magnum SJSP 158 535 1235
357 Magnum LFN 158 413 1085
357 Magnum FMJF 125 548 1405
357 Magnum SCHP 95 420 1411
357 Magnum JHP 125 527 1378
PMC Ammunition Ballistics
Round Type Weight Muzzle Energy ft·lb Muzzle Velocity ft/sec.
357 Magnum SFHP 150 480 1200
357 Magnum EMJ NT 158 505 1200
357 Magnum JSP 158 505 1200
357 Magnum JHP 125 584 1450
RBCD Ammunition Ballistics
Round Type Weight Muzzle Energy ft·lb Muzzle Velocity ft/sec.
357 Magnum TFSP 60 520 1975
Remington Ammunition Ballistics
Round Type Weight Muzzle Energy ft·lb Muzzle Velocity ft/sec.
357 Magnum SJHP 110 410 1295
357 Magnum SJHP 125 583 1450
357 Magnum FNEB 125 583 1450
357 Magnum JSP 125 583 1450
357 Magnum SJHP 158 535 1235
357 Magnum SP 158 535 1235
357 Magnum SWC 158 535 1235
357 Magnum JHP 165 610 1290
357 Magnum SJHP 180 524 1145
** Golden Saber **
357 Magnum BJHP 125 413 1220
Ruag Ammunition Ballistics
Round Type Weight Muzzle Energy ft·lb Muzzle Velocity ft/sec.
Geco Product Line
357 Magnum JHP 158 587 1296
357 Magnum FMJ FN 158 587 1296
Sellier & Bellot Ammunition Ballistics
Round Type Weight Muzzle Energy ft·lb Muzzle Velocity ft/sec.
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Sig Sauer Ammunition Ballistics
Round Type Weight Muzzle Energy ft·lb Muzzle Velocity ft/sec.
357 Magnum Elite Ball, FMJ 125 584 1450
357 Magnum Elite V-Crown, JHP 125 584 1450
Speer Ammunition Ballistics
Round Type Weight Muzzle Energy ft·lb Muzzle Velocity ft/sec.
357 Magnum GDHP 158 534 1235
357 Magnum GDHP 125 584 1450
357 Magnum GDSP 170 526 1180
**Specialty round for snub nose revolvers (low speed expansion)**
357 Magnum GDHP-SB 135 294 990
Underwood Ammunition Ballistics
Round Type Weight Muzzle Energy ft·lb Muzzle Velocity ft/sec.
357 Magnum JHP 125 711 1600
357 Magnum Golden Saber HP 125 711 1600
357 Magnum Gold Dot HP 158 763 1475
357 Magnum FMJ 158 593 1300
Winchester Ammunition Ballistics
Round Type Weight Muzzle Energy ft·lb Muzzle Velocity ft/sec.
357 Magnum JHP 110 410 1295
357 Magnum JSP 125 521 1370
357 Magnum JHP 125 583 1450
357 Magnum STHP 145 535 1290
357 Magnum JHP 158 535 1235
357 Magnum JSP 158 535 1235
357 Magnum PG 180 557 1180







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ironhead7544
12-22-2017, 12:12 AM
Best way to find out is to use a chrono yourself. Speer used six identical S&W revolvers and found up to 200 fps difference with the same factory loads.

There are some "medium" velocity 357 Magnum loads out there. Might be listed as Low Recoil.

Thin Man
12-22-2017, 05:59 AM
Rodfac, let me share an experience with you. Back in the early 1970's I owned a M-19 with 6 inch barrel. I liked the concept of the 125 grain bullet with it's higher velocity and ran through a lot of them. That lasted until I was cleaning the revolver and found that the FRAME had cracked under the bottom of the barrel where the yoke closes into the frame. I called S&W and they agreed to look at the firearm. They replaced the frame. When they returned it to me there was a "Notice" card included in the shipment. The details on this card spoke about the pressure curve of 357 ammo loaded with 125 grain bullets being different from other bullet weights and that they did NOT recommend this loading for their M-19. Sad but true. If your revolver is of the earlier production series you may want to use a somewhat reduced load for 125 grain bullets or even switch to another weight. The earlier production frames are no longer available.

str8wal
12-22-2017, 11:31 AM
Even IF the newer stuff is slightly less powerful than days of old, it will still perform well enough for the stated purpose of self defence against 2 legged critters. That said, I roll my own.

smkummer
12-25-2017, 11:51 AM
I cracked the forceing cone ( rear of barrel) on a colt lawman mkIII firing a 125 grain blue dot load recommended by Hercules. The mkIII colts are built like a tank but everything has its limits and firing a box or more of this load without maybe cooling it down a bit between cylinder loads probably did it in. Usually Hercules ( Alliant) is usually on the safer side but afterwards it was hotter than other manuals stated as max.. I later discovered Alliant posted a warning that blue dot was no longer recommended for 125 grain .357 loading. Even a 1200 FPS loading of a 125 grain JHP will probably provide total penetration on a human target. Some departments would not allow 357 ammo in urban settings for fear of a still lethal projectile after penetrating the primary target. My 1500 FPS 357 125 grain reloads with H1100 out of a 6” barrel are used to blow up 2 liter soda bottles and show the effectiveness of the .357 cartridge. Just my .02.

44MAG#1
12-25-2017, 12:22 PM
The warning from Speer must have come after their 14th manual because BLUE DOT is listed in it.

Petrol & Powder
12-25-2017, 01:21 PM
I'm not a big user of the .357 mag but if I need it, the old Federal 125gr semi-jacketed, semi-wadcutter hollow point is the load I turn to.
210233

That load can be hard on K-frames, so use sparingly.
Federal still loads this as the C357B