Traditions has new single shot rifles in 35, 357mag and 44mag. Anyone tried one?

[kungfustyle]

I was doing a search for Henry's and this popped up: https://www.traditionsfirearms.com/category/outfitter-g2
Anyone have any experience with the company/guns? Finding a 357 mag rifle and one under $600 is a very intriguing idea.

[kungfustyle]

Buds has them: https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/415000335/TRAD+OUTFITTER+G2+357MAG+22+BLK+SYN+3-9X40+%26+CAS

[WebMonkey]

I've been looking at them for a couple weeks.
No iron sights has kept me from buying.
:(

[wch]

Has anybody thought about rechambering one to 357 Maximum?

[kungfustyle]

I'm sure someone will. I don't understand why people do that. Seems like those that do sell them off. If you want a more powerful cartridge get the 44 mag. Or is it one of those "because I can" things.

[kungfustyle]

I've been looking at them for a couple weeks.
No iron sights has kept me from buying.
:(

I'm sure you could get a Skinner sight for the back sight and just get the front sight drilled and tapped on, still cheaper than a Marlin.

[wch]

I'm sure someone will. I don't understand why people do that. Seems like those that do sell them off. If you want a more powerful cartridge get the 44 mag. Or is it one of those "because I can" things.

I'm interested in this conversion because I have 125 rounds of loaded ammo and no weapon to fire it.

[kungfustyle]

Keep an eye on Graybeards forum in the Handi Rifle section. You'll see 357 Max listed every now and then.

[wch]

Keep an eye on Graybeards forum in the Handi Rifle section. You'll see 357 Max listed every now and then.

Thanks, will do.

[kungfustyle]

They aren't making a 357. They have the 308 and 44 mag, but no 357.

[BK7saum]

They aren't making a 357. They have the 308 and 44 mag, but no 357.

The rifle listed in the buds gun shop link is a 357 for $432 with scope.

Nevery mind, I think you may have been referring to the CV line of single shots

[kungfustyle]

Well Ruger, CVA, Rossi and Henry. Seems like Traditions is the only one making the 357 under $500.

[Jack Stanley]

A nice .357 single would be fun to play with on the range .

Jack

[bedbugbilly]

I'm glad I bought my 357 Handi Rifle when i did. It seems like the demand for a good single shot 357 is high so maybe Traditions will fill that void? Looking at the MSRP for the bare rifle without the scope seems a bit high as compared to what the Handis were but maybe they are worth it? or not? I've never handled one so am wondering what the quality, fit and finish are, etc.

I know a lot of folks have reamed their Handi to 357 Max and to each their own. I've had no desire to do that though. I've fired everything from 38 Colt Short, 38 Colt Long, 28 Special and 357 out of mine - both smokeless and BP nd am very pleased with he results (cast only). The chamber on mine is deeper as most are and I did pick up some 360 DW Starline brass to use in it. I have two different NOE 200 gr molds - FN and RN. I haven't had the opportunity to really work with that combination but I have loaded up dummy rounds and they chamber just fine in my Handi.

I kind of agree on the 44 over the 357 Max but if you only have the one rifle in 357, it does give you the option of the MAX without having to have a barrel in 44 or another rifle in 44. I passed on a Hani chambered in 45 Colt and wish now that I had bought it.

If someone has or has handled one of the Traditions, it would be nice to hear your thoughts on them.

[geezer56]

One reason to ream to max was the long throated chamber NEF put in the rifles. Also, you can get a proper leade in the chamber with the correct reamer. SAMMI spec has a forcing cone in the barrel.

[rfd]

sounds/looks like they're attempting to fill the defunct H&R gap. IF that's the same 'traditions' company that hawks those spanish built trad muzzleloaders, beware.

[Jniedbalski]

I have shot the 44 mag traditions rifle and it was really accurate. I really didint like the plastic stock but it wasent that bad . The rifle looked decent .

[uscra112]

One reason to ream to max was the long throated chamber NEF put in the rifles. Also, you can get a proper leade in the chamber with the correct reamer. SAMMI spec has a forcing cone in the barrel.

SAAMI Max reamer drawing also specifies a pilot that is .346" diameter, which will give you an off-center chamber like as not. Call Manson. About 5-6 years ago Dave and I worked out a neat way to regrind that lousy forcing cone into a proper throat. At the same time we made it a loose-pilot reamer so you can use a pilot that fits your bore correctly. It didn't even cost the moon and starts.

[OlDeuce]

SAAMI Max reamer drawing also specifies a pilot that is .346" diameter, which will give you an off-center chamber like as not. Call Manson. About 5-6 years ago Dave and I worked out a neat way to regrind that lousy forcing cone into a proper throat. At the same time we made it a loose-pilot reamer so you can use a pilot that fits your bore correctly. It didn't even cost the moon and starts.

I did something like that on my .430 reamer ..... Made up a Like DuMore grinder using a dremel mounted on my tool post of my lathe !!! Thing you can
do when there is a need! It worked out Great !!!! .44 cal is Great

Ol Deuce

[kungfustyle]

Man we went down a rabbit trail. Has anyone used one of these guns? Are they worth it?

[Wagnerwerks]

I just ordered one of these in 357. I justify it after looking at the 357 handi prices. They're rediculous. I'm hoping this will be a shooter and I'm going to enjoy plinking with home cast 38s.

[GhostHawk]

Well I have one of the H&R's in .357mag. I never saw any point in reaming it to max.

For me it is not a matter of getting more powder in there. As I am only loading 4.6 grains of Red Dot in mine as it is.

The .360DW brass does let me set the bullet right at the edge of the rifling, and gave me a little boost in accuracy. I have no complaints with mine. I have a target that had 3 158 gr .358 round nose bullets go through one hole at 50 yards. That is stacking them up nicely in my opinion.

So I put it away, its done.

If I was to get it out it would be to work on the 200 gr gas checked bullet and loads.
But as I am not hunting these days I just don't feel a lot of need at this point.

[kungfustyle]

I just ordered one of these in 357. I justify it after looking at the 357 handi prices. They're rediculous. I'm hoping this will be a shooter and I'm going to enjoy plinking with home cast 38s.

Would be very interested in the results please post them, Thanks.

[Wagnerwerks]

Would be very interested in the results please post them, Thanks.
I will. Should be picking it up in 2 weeks or less.

[Wagnerwerks]

Correction... Hopefully picking it up tomorrow :)

[Wagnerwerks]

Well, I have mixed emotions about my new rifle right out of the box. The gun is cool but quality control leaves something to be desired. The barrel coating has a huge flaw in it right on the side. Of course I couldn't complain to the dealer because they're a middle man. We'll see what traditions has to say and I'll be reporting back to let you all know.

[Wagnerwerks]

Yesterday I had 4 shots touching while propped on a tree at 35ish yards today. These were 357 158g jacketed over 14g of 110. Further testing is obviously necessary...

My pic won't load... Hmmm

[rbertalotto]

And calling it a "G2"....Isn't the latest Thompson Contender a G2?

[kungfustyle]

Very cool, thanks for the update.

[Wagnerwerks]

And calling it a "G2"....Isn't the latest Thompson Contender a G2?

Yes... Lol. I was also thinking copyright infringement...

[Texas by God]

That is a bad spot for sure. But if it's very accurate how's the warranty one going to shoot?

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[Wagnerwerks]

I don't know... I'm going to call and see what the deal is. They're still closed for Christmas.
I'm not pleased with the barrel coating glob. It's peeling around it like it wasn't prepped or the coating had a glob of junk in it. I just know that it should be made right and I shouldn't have to pay to cover it.

[Wagnerwerks]

I need to find this guy..... Lol

[kungfustyle]

no kidding I had a 45-70 from CVA that started spotting like that but no where near as bad. Worth a phone call.

[HangFireW8]

Hmmm 35Whelen got my attention. But Traditions... a "tradition" of poor quality. Buddy of mine had a traditions M/L, eventually gave up on it and bought a T/C that actually worked.

[Wagnerwerks]

I figured it was a long shot but I have looked so long for a 357 rifle with no luck I thought it was a chance worth taking. We'll see.... I may still have to find this "RFM". :)

[Wagnerwerks]

Customer service has not been close to impressive. I'm getting frustrated quickly.

[kungfustyle]

That stinks, I was very much hoping for this to work out. Let's keep our fingers crossed.

[725]

Good luck finding satisfaction. Poor quality drives me nuts. Question: What is the length of pull?

[Wagnerwerks]

I haven't measured the pull yet. It's not bad.

I've still not had any response from customer service at traditions yet. It's starting to really get me irritated. I will be calling again tomorrow if no email reply is received. Wish them luck. I'm getting very impatient.

[Wagnerwerks]

I'm going to start a new thread about this gun. Sorry for clogging up this one with my issues.

[kungfustyle]

No worries good information.