When to take a puppy from Mom?

[DCP]

So when do you take a puppy from Mom?

6 weeks
7 weeks
8 weeks
9 weeks

We are getting a Miniature Schnauzer puppy.
The breeder wants to wait for 9 weeks

I thought it was 7 or 8 weeks

[lefty o]

the more time they spend with mom and the other puppy's the better imo. somewhere between 8 to 10wks is about right.

[XDROB]

My dog who is a Belgian Melinouis. We got him at 8 weeks.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171111/bf1db6035550ef277adced3dd2da06dd.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171111/8b52e2b3a7705db58493bf3afaab5862.jpg

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[Eddie17]

I would say 9 to 10. We picked our youngest pup at 10 weeks!

[MT Gianni]

I always read that at 7 weeks the pup was ready to sever old ties and bond with a new pack. I would be OK with 8 but not over that.

[DCP]

Puppy was born Nov 1
9 weeks is Jan 3

[MaryB]

With labs we always waited 12 weeks. Made them more socialized to pack life so they fit in better... and they seemed to learn faster than ones taken younger.

[Beagle333]

I'd give it the full 9.

[nagantguy]

8-12 the dog will let you know, at 8 weeks the most independent of our last litter were spending more time exploring one there own and sleeping separate from the puppy pile,the type of attention mom gives them is also an indicator ,a 8weeks the pup we kept and the one sold to a friend got rougher treatment from mom,not mean just firmer and more packs mate not pup like and she'd let them have much less time on the teet.
12 weeks won't hurt as long as a stable weening process is started.
The flip side is to early and the pup is shocked and can be socially unsure and a weaker pack memener for life.
We've found when they can go 3-5 hours without crying for mom/milk it's about time. At 7 weeks the most mature of our last batch would get a nip and stern bark when attempting to nurse;mom knew they had what it took to be on there own.

[waksupi]

49 days is the maximum before adopting. That is the point that they imprint on an individual. After that they will be harder to train.

[runfiverun]

I'm more in the 6 maybe 7 week area too.
you want the dog to be somewhat dependent on you for the first little bit.
once you have that little bond then a trust is instilled in them and they are much easier to train.

[RED BEAR]

It is illegal to remove a puppy from its mom before 8 weeks here but vet says best to wait 12 weeks they socialize better. I will admit my last dog I got at 8 weeks ( vet thinks he was younger) I really didn't think he would make it to 12 weeks. Had kidney bowl and ear infections $1000 later and he was doing fine. He is five years old and has been worth every penny totally loyal and an absolute love machine .

[Lonegun1894]

I got mine at what I was told was 6 weeks, but he wasn’t properly developed for a 6wk old, and I found out a few days later that he was 2 1/2 weeks old when the lady told me his actual birthday. I took him knowing he was too young because I thought the lady would sell him to the next person who was willing to pay her price without regard for his age, and had the vacation time to use to take care of him at this fragile age. Now, he’s the best dog I’ve ever had, well trained and extremely loyal, BUT, I wish he had been older because I still don’t think it was right of that woman to sell him at that young age. I mean, he is now 7yo, and still sucks on his blanket after a meal because he was never weaned. But I don’t think I had a choice but to take him when I did because I honestly don’t think he would have survived if he had gone to a home where he didn’t have someone that could stay with him 24/7 til he matured a bit. Thankfully, my boss had been chewing my butt for never taking vacation and having 6 months of it on the books, so they were thrilled when I told them I was going to take at least a month, even if they did pick on me for doing it for “just a dog”. He goes to work w me and has since he was 6 months old, and has saved several lives, so no one on my department considers him “just a dog” anymore.

[tmax64]

War department and her mother was a small breed breeders for a 15+ years and we never sold a pup before 8 weeks and Yorkies and other tiny ones never before 10 weeks. Bigger breeds could go a little sooner but never less than 6 weeks and that's assuming they are weaned and completely on solid food. Others may say different but this worked for us.

[mulespurs]

I would bet my money on 7 weeks.

[Lonegun1894]

Teach, that’s because you care about the welfare of the pups. Unfortunately too many don’t.

[MostlyLeverGuns]

We always liked 6-7 weeks, shorthairs and springer spaniels, Mom was getting tired of them, they imprint to the new family better. My Chesapeakes and a Lab also learned well and bonded at 7 weeks.

[Ballistics in Scotland]

I don't think there is much wrong with the ages anybody has recommended here. There is more difference between dog and dog. The golden lab my sister and I carried home at the ages of seven and five (us, not the puppy), with her head sticking out of a canvas holdall, was said to be six weeks, and I suspect that she was a shade younger. She was the only puppy we ever had that would at first eat puppy meal only if it was awash with milk. On her first morning we found her squeezed between two cushions, because she was used to sleeping in the mass. But she was exactly normal in a week, and full of sin and impudence in a month.

I had to choose Lanty Hanlon at three weeks, at what auctioneers call an early viewing, although most of the signs or picking out a puppy don't apply then. Irish terrier is an uncommon breed, and it looked like a waiting list was forming. Within a couple of weeks his breeder told me he was the laid-back one of the litter, but the last one to quit on anything, good or bad. We were back for a three-generation reunion a couple of weeks ago, and oddly enough, since we think of him as a maniac, it turns out still to be true. His breeder has put in a high wire fence because his sister ran off in the road, and his brother has been hospitalised twice from fighting his own family's German shepherds. Lanty, following an unsuccessful attack by a mongrelised lab in his youth, lives in hope of being given fair excuse by anybody large and dark, but has never looked like biting anybody, even then, and loves small dogs of both sexes.

He left home at a genuine eight weeks, but still goes one stage beyond blanket-sucking. I let him sit on my lap to watch TV (he defies physics by being capable of levitating there as lightly as a cat), and when I wear a heavy wool sweater he usually ends up gently mouthing my arm, always the left one just below the armpit, sighing ecstatically and pressing gently with each foot in turn. I have become a mother. Still, some other dogs try to make love to your leg.

Here he has taught his friend Truffle to jump onto his metre-high rock. She was claimed to be labrador-Jack Russell, but I think there is a whippet somewhere with a smile on his face.

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[6bg6ga]

Back in 2001 we met a Bosnian family that had owned a German Shepherd business back there. They breed, raised, and trained them. We ended up breeding our male German Shepherd to their female and got the pick of the litter. We got the little one at 4 weeks and he formed a tight bond with the wife and me and was the best german shepherd we have ever had. He always told me when dog can eat on his own dog can go.

[Ballistics in Scotland]

Say eat before he is desperate, and without looking very picky about food of normally solid consistency, and that sounds a pretty good standard.

[DCP]

Unless some things changes, we get to bring her home Jan 2
We are going to name Her Dixie

We are trying to come up with a middle name. So far

Dixie Lee
Dixie Anne,(Ann) for my Grandmother who loved dogs.
Feel free to chime in with Ideas.

[nagantguy]

Dixie Galena , Dixie mold and Dixie cup come to mind.

[RogerDat]

I would say get to know her a bit, that may inform you of how to finish out her name. I think our standard pup Binka will end up with Little Monster as the rest of her name.

They socialize with the other pups, learn to be bite inhibited (no hard biting) generally most breeders will feed and potty on a schedule so longer that goes on the easier it should make your house training if you keep the same schedule. Children and pups can become more independent minded if "on their own" too young. However if the breeders doesn't also socialize the pups with humans during those formative weeks I think it can make it harder on the pup. Not only new environment, with no litter mates & no mom but who are these creatures that are grabbing me and talking at me, and giving me loud commands? Maybe younger is better to start the human/pup socialization at your home if it isn't happening at the breeder.

Dogs be individuals. Even standard schnauzer and miniature schnauzer show a different temperament in general but within a litter they can vary a whole lot.

[nagantguy]

I would say get to know her a bit, that may inform you of how to finish out her name. I think our standard pup Binka will end up with Little Monster as the rest of her name.

They socialize with the other pups, learn to be bite inhibited (no hard biting) generally most breeders will feed and potty on a schedule so longer that goes on the easier it should make your house training if you keep the same schedule. Children and pups can become more independent minded if "on their own" too young. However if the breeders doesn't also socialize the pups with humans during those formative weeks I think it can make it harder on the pup. Not only new environment, with no litter mates & no mom but who are these creatures that are grabbing me and talking at me, and giving me loud commands? Maybe younger is better to start the human/pup socialization at your home if it isn't happening at the breeder.

Dogs be individuals. Even standard schnauzer and miniature schnauzer show a different temperament in general but within a litter they can vary a whole lot.

Sound wisdom in these words!

[XDROB]

When we got Logan at eight weeks, after about a week he knew what door that meant (out). He is the pup in post three. Here he is now about three weeks ago at 7 1/2 months. In training.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171115/f4f5918ffb2dbd6bee2810f786811f15.jpg

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[WILCO]

Puppy was born Nov 1
9 weeks is Jan 3

Wait the 9 weeks. It'll be worth it. Looking forward to pictures.

[DCP]

Thanks to all that have chimed in.

The breeder has 45 plus years breeding only Miniature Schnauzers and some were Champions.

This will be our 3rd puppy from her. We have only Sherry now she is 3

There are 5 puppies 4 females and 1 male. We get 1st choice of puppies. She has the puppies and Mom in her bed room. They will get plenty of Human socialization and Dog socialization. We will go see the puppies every 2 weeks. Then on the Jan 2nd, we will pick our Dixie. We got to see them Sat but they weren't very active.

We will take her to a puppy socialization class. Then a training class at 3mo

[snuffy]

The state of Wis. has a minimum 7 weeks/49 days to take a puppy home from a registered breeder. This is to limit puppy mills from selling puppies early so they can breed the brood bitches sooner, make more puppies quicker.

Richard A. Wolters wrote a series of training books for hunting dogs back in the 60's. Water dog was the one I got that helped me train my black lab. He said that get no dog that has stayed in the litter longer than 7 weeks. The pups in a litter longer than 49 days will have started to establish the pack hierarchy/pecking order already. The alpha male and female start to get them arranged down the order before 7 weeks, but it's still time to change their minds by 7 weeks.

Experienced breeders can spot what kind of pecking order has happened well before 7 weeks. The breeder I got my Golden puppy from supplies dogs to several service dog organizations, PTSD dogs, seeing eye dogs, and companion dogs for cerebral palsy kids. He can tell the top and bottom of the hierarchy, he wants the middle pups, he will sell the top and bottom for pets. I got the most alert one of 3 left for just such a sale, he is definitely the alpha male, while a very smart boy, he's stubborn and bone headed, but a typical lover like all Golden's I have met.

[DCP]

Puppies at 3 weeks

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[JSnover]

I wondered about this when a friend of mine brought a rescue dog home. It was maybe 4-6 weeks old and has been very hard to train, chewed EVERYTHING for about 8 months.
I don't know how old he was when the pound got him. I suspect a puppy mill was broken up and he may have only been 1-3 weeks at that time. Now at 11 months he's a nice playful dog but seems terrified of almost anything.
Would these be symptoms of a dog that was taken too early?

[Lonegun1894]

I wouldn’t think so, but would think it was just a matter of individual differences. My male was taken at 2.5weeks, and I raised him w lots of daily attention (got fired for not breaking the law the day after I got him, which turned out to be a huge blessing), and he only had to be shown things once or twice and learned. I’ve never had any problems with him chewing on anything he wasn’t allowed to or really any problems at all. My female I got when she was about 4 months, but she had received so very little training that she was a bit set in her ways. Now she didn’t quit chewing things til she was about a year and a half old. This matches everything I’ve seen with dogs I’ve had in the past and with dogs friends had. Some are just more stubborn and rebellious than others, but they’re all worth it.

[waksupi]

I wondered about this when a friend of mine brought a rescue dog home. It was maybe 4-6 weeks old and has been very hard to train, chewed EVERYTHING for about 8 months.
I don't know how old he was when the pound got him. I suspect a puppy mill was broken up and he may have only been 1-3 weeks at that time. Now at 11 months he's a nice playful dog but seems terrified of almost anything.
Would these be symptoms of a dog that was taken too early?

All pups will chew until they get all their teeth in. Best thing I found for a chew toy, is a limb about a foot long, cut from an apple or maple tree. Peel the bark, and give to the pup Both are sweet, and they will chew that in preference to anything else. Replace as needed.

[DCP]

The state of Wis. has a minimum 7 weeks/49 days to take a puppy home from a registered breeder. This is to limit puppy mills from selling puppies early so they can breed the brood bitches sooner, make more puppies quicker.

John Wooters wrote a series of training books for hunting dogs back in the 60's. Water dog was the one I got that helped me train my black lab. He said that get no dog that has stayed in the litter longer than 7 weeks. The pups in a litter longer than 49 days will have started to establish the pack hierarchy/pecking order already. The alpha male and female start to get them arranged down the order before 7 weeks, but it's still time to change their minds by 7 weeks.

Experienced breeders can spot what kind of pecking order has happened well before 7 weeks. The breeder I got my Golden puppy from supplies dogs to several service dog organizations, PTSD dogs, seeing eye dogs, and companion dogs for cerebral palsy kids. He can tell the top and bottom of the hierarchy, he wants the middle pups, he will sell the top and bottom for pets. I got the most alert one of 3 left for just such a sale, he is definitely the alpha male, while a very smart boy, he's stubborn and bone headed, but a typical lover like all Goldens I have met.

We will ask the breeder if she knows what the peaking order is every 2 weeks.
Then try to take one of those in the middle.

[Lloyd Smale]

The state of Wis. has a minimum 7 weeks/49 days to take a puppy home from a registered breeder. This is to limit puppy mills from selling puppies early so they can breed the brood bitches sooner, make more puppies quicker.

John Wooters wrote a series of training books for hunting dogs back in the 60's. Water dog was the one I got that helped me train my black lab. He said that get no dog that has stayed in the litter longer than 7 weeks. The pups in a litter longer than 49 days will have started to establish the pack hierarchy/pecking order already. The alpha male and female start to get them arranged down the order before 7 weeks, but it's still time to change their minds by 7 weeks.

Experienced breeders can spot what kind of pecking order has happened well before 7 weeks. The breeder I got my Golden puppy from supplies dogs to several service dog organizations, PTSD dogs, seeing eye dogs, and companion dogs for cerebral palsy kids. He can tell the top and bottom of the hierarchy, he wants the middle pups, he will sell the top and bottom for pets. I got the most alert one of 3 left for just such a sale, he is definitely the alpha male, while a very smart boy, he's stubborn and bone headed, but a typical lover like all Goldens I have met.

something to that too. The last lab I got was the runt of the litter. He ended up being the largest dog of that litter when he grew up and was a very well behaved smart dog. I took the runt because it was my buddys bunch of puppys and he gave me one for free so I felt about aboligated to take the one that was least likely to get picked by buying customers. This last one we got was free too but only to me. Another buddy who owed me LOTs of favors bought him from his friends litter. he paid 300 buck for him which was about half what the owner was asking for them. Part of the half price deal they made before he was born was the owner got to pick which pup he got. He was a beautiful little guy with two flaws. First he had blue eyes that sometimes labs get as pups (they turn brown in a couple months but a lot of people don't believe there pure if they have them and he wanted it out of the litter before others saw) the other was he was the dominant pup in the litter and the biggest. He has been twice as much work as the first one for chewing, potty training, barking and jumping on people. Hes a smart dog maybe almost to smart sometimes. If I had to go in and pick another new pup today id look for the most passive one in the liter period. I wouldn't care about sex, looks ect. You love them no matter how perfect or inperfect they look. My dogs are house pets. family members. I don't raise them to breed or even to hunt or work so passive is the most important trait to me. bottom line is this ones finally settling down. He just turned one yesterday. told the wife if theres a next time its going to be the most passive dog out of a litter of mixed breed mongrels. Even pure breed dogs of any kind tend to be more high strung in my experiences. muts are usually the best behaved dogs. they even tend to be healthier and live longer. I do love my labs though and it would be tough after having one for the about the last 30 years to switch.

[jsizemore]

The most dominant dog will take the toy/food over to a corner and won't share or allow it to be taken without a bit of fuss or a bite. Always has to be on top in play. The most submissive will hide in the corner and not participate in activities. Will give up toys and not try to get them back. Always on the bottom in play. Both these dogs will grow to be biters one out of aggression and one out of fear. The fear biter is unpredictable.

The dogs in the middle will take the toy but don't mind sharing or seek out a person/littermate to play. They spend as much time on top as the bottom in play. If things don't go their way the content their self with something else.

The one in the middle that wants to play with you will be your friend to the end.

[XDROB]

Logan 8 weeks and then 8 monthshttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171130/34ee280f8cc882a511c78e8b3f80ed6e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171130/bf996a5fa48131242269222fe3fb8ffe.jpg

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[DCP]

Dixie Rose will be her name

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[DCP]

We got to spend almost 2 hours with Mom and her puppies.
Fancy is a wonderful Mom and Dog.
We held each puppy and Mom. Puppies aren't really active yet.

[XDROB]

You will find the puppy will pick you.

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[SSGOldfart]

My dog who is a Belgian Melinouis. We got him at 8 weeks.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171111/bf1db6035550ef277adced3dd2da06dd.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171111/8b52e2b3a7705db58493bf3afaab5862.jpg

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Wow nice looking pup[smilie=s:

[XDROB]

Wow nice looking pup[smilie=s:Thank you, without being a smart guy, he is a very good looking dog. I have another picture of him the first day we brought him home. This picture just kills me. He looks so cute and at the same time Tough. Haha https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171211/f5f64f071daaa7d523daba06ae223dc8.jpg

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[SSGOldfart]

He could have been a brother to ours. I handled a K-9 in the military for a while, then my wife wanted a guard dog when I was traveling a lot so Trooper Joined us when he was 8 weeks old he was tough as nails by 10 weeks.

[XDROB]

He could have been a brother to ours. I handled a K-9 in the military for a while, then my wife wanted a guard dog when I was traveling a lot so Trooper Joined us when he was 8 weeks old he was tough as nails by 10 weeks.One week after we brought him home at 9 weeks old he was going to the door to tell us he had to go. It's unbelievable how smart this breed is.

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[DCP]

We picked up Dixie Rose yesterday. She is just under 4lbs, She plays hard and sleeps.
Her 3yr old sister plays with her and watches her like a hawk anything on the floor goes in her mouth.
Sherry brings her toys and drops them in front of her.
Dixie went under her bed and Sherry lost track for 15 seconds and Sherry was frantic until she found her underneath it.


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[XDROB]

Very cute.

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[Down South]

7-8 weeks should be good. I know some that adopt at 6 weeks. Well, that's what the wife says. she worked for a vet for over 25 yrs.