GP-100 44 special vs 696 44 special vs 69 44 Mag

[osteodoc08]

Anyone have a chance to compare of of these on the range? Opinions?

[CIC]

I only have experience with the gp and it is a winner in my book.

[oldhenry]

I only have experience with the gp and it is a winner in my book.

Same here.
Henry

[snowwolfe]

They each are used for different tasks, what will you be using it for?

[osteodoc08]

They each are used for different tasks, what will you be using it for?


Honestly, I have no clue. I was thinking lighter weight woods carry, but my G20 carries that honor. I was then thinking perhaps a smaller framed powerhouse but then why not get the slightly larger 329PD? So I just don't know other than curiosity's sake.

[AnthonyB]

I bought the stainless GP100 and am waiting for the longer barreled blued revolver. That one may be worthy of the trip to Bowen to make into my definition of the perfect Alabama revolver.
Tony

[Chill Wills]

I only have the Smith. It has been my mountain hiking sidearm for 20 years. Never every had to use it. I would be interested in learning about the Ruger.

[Lloyd Smale]

I love my 696. Its not for sale for any amount. Ive had gp100s in 357. Good stout gun but just not as smooth or classy as a smith. I also had one of those rossi 5 shots 44 specials. It was a combo of the worse of both guns. Sloppy like a ruger and weaker like the smith. I guess if I had to start today id look at a 69. but I sure wouldn't part with my 696 to get one.

[Preacher Jim]

My 24 smith is my favorite, the 44spc is a great all around cartridge.

[snowwolfe]

My vote is for the 69. It is a compact package that is accurate. And you can fire 44 specials in it anytime you wish. It will also handle full power 44 mag loads without issue. Action is smooth, single action trigger pull is excellent.
329? Not for me. I owned one once. Most brutal revolver I ever shot, period.
My 69 is a keeper.

[rking22]

I've got the 696, and mine isn't going anywhere either! I have a Clements 41 gp100,, and a STD gp100, I like them both. The Clements stays forever , the STD GP probably as well, just cause it's so pratical. Also a 41mag titanium Taurus, for comparison. It's for sale, unlike the others. Now, I have been watching the 69 market, I may grab one in 4 inch with the new rifling, but a 4 inch GP would probably win out. I love old Smith's, new ones no so much, would need to be pretty special.
So I vote Gp100, but it's close, especially given both guns "birthing" issues. For a "few" hundred more than a new gun, I could have another Clements gun built. And patience while he works:grin:

[Shuz]

I bought a 4-1/4" Smith mdl 69 a few months ago. When I got it the action was so rough, it felt like two files rubbing together when the revolver was operated in single stage. The trigger pull buried my gauge which went up to 72 ounces.When I took off the side plate, I noticed a lot of wear around the hammer stud boss. I sent it back to Smith in early August, and just got it back last Thursday. It was much smoother to operate and the trigger pull was "only" 68 ounces. I installed an 11 lb Wolff rebound slide spring, and now I have a really nice operating revolver with a trigger pull of 40 ounces. As soon as I receive the Patridge sight and get it installed, I'll give it a real good work out.

[W.R.Buchanan]

I love my 696 and paid $950 for it used after some body here made me aware of them. My gun is the smoothest revolver I have ever owned and the D/A trigger pull is right at 10 lbs and S/A is 3 lbs and both smooth as glass.

I have handled several of the Ruger GP100/44's and they are nice guns, but they are not nearly as nice as the S&W 696's. These guns were specifically designed to take the place of the no longer made 696's which S&W mutated into the M69. They are not as expensive as even my used 696 which had only had 50-100 rounds fired before I got it.

For the money the Ruger is a great gun and if I didn't already have the 696 I would have one for sure.

Unfortunately the 696's are not easy to find and are expensive when you do.

If you are going to buy a new GP100/44 I would suggest insisting on a gun made no earlier than about June of this year. There were teething problems with the guns and there are several threads about this here.

All of these have been corrected but I would still measure the Throats of the cylinder, and check to make sure the Front sight Dovetail is not cut too deep.(big gap under FS)

Randy

[bpatterson84]

I've used the 2 smiths. I'd recommend the 69, it's a terrifically accurate little gun, and, like the glock 19 is the perfect size autoloader, a 4" L frame is the perfect sized revolver, and has proven quite up to the task of plenty of warm/hot loads.

[bluelund79]

I've had the M69 for three years now. It's hands down my favorite revolver. I use 44 special loads in a 44 mag case for practice runs, and have a couple of mid and factory type loading for woods use and hunting. Good grips make a world of a difference, I'm using Herrett Jordan Troopers.

[bpatterson84]

I've had the M69 for three years now. It's hands down my favorite revolver. I use 44 special loads in a 44 mag case for practice runs, and have a couple of mid and factory type loading for woods use and hunting. Good grips make a world of a difference, I'm using Herrett Jordan Troopers.

Mind posting a picture with those grips? Sure wish they'd do a "569" model, gloss blued sure would look fine on this one!

[bluelund79]

as requested. I have a set coming for my 627-5 too. If I end up deciding to change the magna/Tyler t combo on my 686+ edc wheelgun, it'll be for a set of Herrett's as well. Not associated with them, other than a happy customer.

[osteodoc08]

as requested. I have a set coming for my 627-5 too. If I end up deciding to change the magna/Tyler t combo on my 686+ edc wheelgun, it'll be for a set of Herrett's as well. Not associated with them, other than a happy customer.


Sure looks nice. How's it do with boolits?

[bluelund79]

Sure looks nice. How's it do with boolits?

Sir, I have had very good experience with boolits. Im using 240gr SWC over unique, haven't chrono'd yet. Should be between 950-1000fps according to the manual. I can keep the full cylinder on a soda can at 50 yards. I also am using some 255ish go boolits that a member here cast. They aren't as good, but I'm not done with load development yet. For full disclosure, I did run 200rds of win white box, and another 200 rds of my jacketed handloads before the leading was reduced to almost none. My boolits are at .430, and I have yet to measure my bore or throat. I carry it often, and it's a usual suspect on my range visits. I shoot it usually 2-3x a month, with an average of 300rds a month, up to about 500 rds a month. There is no discernible end shake or cylinder movement either. Knock on wood. If are ever near Fort Knox, KY, hit me up and we will head to the range with it.

[rintinglen]

My model 69 has been a *** as far shooting cast has been concerned. It leads like crazy. I have been fire lapping the bore after Doug Guy took care of the undersized throats, but other projects and fun stuff have pushed this to the back burner.. I hope to have time to get back to this project later this fall, because I truly like the gun's size, feel, and balance, but if it won't shoot my stock 44 ammo--429-421's sized .431, It and I shall come to a parting.

[Three-Fifty-Seven]

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[Shuz]

I couldn't wait until I received my Patridge front sight replacement from S&W, so I take my recently returned Model 69 down to my range for a workout. All shooting was 5 shot groups done from sandbags on a bench and the targets were 25yards. First group was with 9.0g of Green Dot and a Lee 200RNFP@210g,sized .429. Velocity was 1021fps with an SD of 26. Group size was 2.9"(4 were in 2.1")
Next group was with an MP 433-640L round hollow point sized .431, and weighing 225g, loaded in front of 7.1g of Trail Boss. Velocity was 803fps with an SD of 11. Group size was 3.5"(4 were in 1.6")
I'm beginning to wonder if I have "a bad chamber hole". Next group was with a Lyman 429421 sized .430 and 252g with 7.1g of Trail Boss. Velocity was 760fps and SD of 6; but the group MEASURED .622" and were all in one hole!!! Goes to show, even an old blind phart can find a good group sometimes! To prove it wasn't a fluke, I shot the same load again, and this time my group was a more normal 2.2".
So far I'm real happy with my newest .44 revolter!

[rintinglen]

Well if its that bad, and it sucks really, ill be happy to take it off you for the cost of postage.

How kind of you to offer, but I could not impose on you with this burden.

[44MAG#1]

I have two Smith M69's. My barrels stay clean, very clean And I have shot 21 gr 2400 with 1-16 bullets down to 7 gr Unique with the Keith. Soft, medium and hard bullets and have had no,problems.
Have become my favorite revolvers. A 4.2 and a 2.75 inch with the 2.75 inch shot the most.

[osteodoc08]

I have two Smith M69's. My barrels stay clean, very clean And I have shot 21 gr 2400 with 1-16 bullets down to 7 gr Unique with the Keith. Soft, medium and hard bullets and have had no,problems.
Have become my favorite revolvers. A 4.2 and a 2.75 inch with the 2.75 inch shot the most.

That's encouraging to hear. I may need to go to the LGS and have a look.