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Marlin Junky
08-05-2008, 02:16 AM
Has there ever been a .360-260/270 (or thereabouts) with a similar nose profile to the .360-220?

MJ

P.S. Something like this which is essentially the .360-220 with another lube groove and a little heavier leading band. I realize this is pushing the limit of the Lee 6-cavity mold block at right around 1.05".

45 2.1
08-05-2008, 06:57 AM
here is something a little closer to what you want. 248 gr. as cast. Will fit in a 35 Whelen neck without exposing lube and fits the throat.

Doc Highwall
08-05-2008, 11:47 AM
What twist would be required to stabilize this boolit.

45 2.1
08-05-2008, 12:15 PM
What twist would be required to stabilize this boolit.

Boolit is 1.05" long, weighs about 252 gr. ready to load. If the Saeco will stabilize in it, it should shoot.

Marlin Junky
08-05-2008, 03:14 PM
45 2.1,

Was/Is that mold available? The only thing I would change if I was going to order this mold from MM is to remove the crimp groove; therefore, the COL could be adjusted slightly for various throats and crimping can be performed with a Lee FC die. That would also bump the weight up a couple grains.

MJ

GLL
08-05-2008, 04:18 PM
45 2.1:

Did the original 220 grain version shoot in .357MAX?

Would a lighter hollow pointed version be better?

Jerry

Johnch
08-05-2008, 07:02 PM
45 2.1:

Did the original 220 grain version shoot in .357MAX?

Would a lighter hollow pointed version be better?

Jerry

YES
It shoots great

BTW if we would get enought guys that want 45 2.1 's with or without a crimp grove
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8281&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1217933856

I would run it at 10 guys in a Lee 6 gang mould



John

Marlin Junky
08-05-2008, 07:38 PM
I vote for no crimp groove and would definitely be in for one mold.

I need a good moderate weight boolit for my .350 that carries more lube than SAECO 352 and this one looks like it will weigh about 260 grains in 50/50 (sans crimping groove).

Thank you John,

MJ

P.S. One question though: eliminating the crimping groove on the design we're looking at doesn't mean the position of the driving bands and lube grooves will change, right?

RugerFan
08-05-2008, 09:24 PM
I'm very interested (and I have no use for a lube groove either). I wish we would use someone other than Lee though.

45 2.1
08-06-2008, 07:09 AM
No crimp groove will only gain you about 1.5 gr. of weight. The crimp groove would be better if you used it as a lube groove. There is a lot of bearing length here.

Did the original 220 grain version shoot in .357MAX?
Yes, from several peoples reports it did.

Would a lighter hollow pointed version be better?
The hollow point version, which I have, does extremely well in the 35 Rem.

Marlin Junky
08-06-2008, 03:13 PM
No crimp groove will only gain you about 1.5 gr. of weight. The crimp groove would be better if you used it as a lube groove. There is a lot of bearing length here.

There's great bearing length here, that's not my point. I want to be able to have more latitude in COL by not having a crimping groove and crimping (if necessary) on the flat area with a Lee FC die (see below). If more lube is needed we can widen the lube grooves a tiny bit; however, the hefty front driving band will probably withstand fast twist torques better than a slight front band. I just think a crimping groove on a cast boolit designed for a magazine fed rifle is a waste of space. If one feels the need for a crimp to promote burn or whatever, he can use a Lee FC die on the bullet's shank.

MJ

GLL
08-09-2008, 10:42 AM
Can anyone provide me a small handfull of the original 220gr. bullets?

http://www.fototime.com/938AED948C5865E/standard.jpg


Any help is appreciated !

John: I would be in for a couple of the original 45 2.1 design moulds if you rerun it

Jerry