REMINGTON 1858 New Army, 44 cal help.

[Terryrm1-03]

Hi guys, I just acquired a Remington 1858 44 cal. Pistol.
Can you help me what year she was manufactured?
Serial is 83, 434 is on the frame.
Thanks for your Help!
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[Thumbcocker]

If you shoot it please post pics.

[Beagle333]

Ask these folks.
http://www.remingtonsociety.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=2

[Ballistics in Scotland]

I know they made about an eighth of a million during the Civil War, and that number seems a bit high for what I can imagine prewar manufacture being. So unless someone comes along with definite records, I should think it would be early to mid-war period.

[bob208]

the1858 is the paten date. yours is a 1863 model because it has the safety notches between the nipples.

[Terryrm1-03]

Ask these folks.
http://www.remingtonsociety.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=2Thank you, I keep trying but I keep getting my email address IS NO GOOD, flag.

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[Terryrm1-03]

the1858 is the paten date. yours is a 1863 model because it has the safety notches between the nipples.Ah! That helps! I do see the notches now.
Safety Notches!
Thank you!

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[9.3X62AL]

I'll bet that old roller has some great stories to tell.

I have a few such arms in my safe. A BSA 1918 Lee-Enfield No. 1 Mk III, and a rifle and revolver that were part of local history in 1909. Sublime, and I shoot them all.

[bob208]

yes safety notches. you loaded all six and lowered the hammer nose into one of the notches. that way the cylinder could not turn. colt had a similar system with pins between the nipples and a notch in the hammer nose. the Remington was a much more reliable system.

[Terryrm1-03]

I'll bet that old roller has some great stories to tell.

I have a few such arms in my safe. A BSA 1918 Lee-Enfield No. 1 Mk III, and a rifle and revolver that were part of local history in 1909. Sublime, and I shoot them all.Yea, it would be great to hear some!

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[Terryrm1-03]

Anyone know what this cartouche on the pistol grip is?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170830/e0a8ad863317109ee88524abaebad4b1.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170830/dc266a062c31282cd6198182068298fd.jpg

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[bob208]

army inspector stamp. Dixie gun works had a list of the u.s. inspectors in the back of their catalog.

[bedbugbilly]

Nice find!

If you can make out the initials, this link should help you on the inspector . . . .

http://proofhouse.com/cm/us_inspector.htm

As noted - 1863 model. When Remington came out with the NMA in 1863, they really gave Colt a run for their money. Colt was charging the government $25.00 per unit for 1860 Colt Army model. Remington undercut them with this model and sold it to the government for $12.50 per unit.

Or are the cylinder chambers and bore?

[Terryrm1-03]

Chambers are GREAT! nipples look GREAT! Bore shines.
Looking to test fire soon.
Not sure if I need .451 or .454
Bullets.

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[Thumbcocker]

I would try .457 and let the cylinder shave off some lead.

[Old Iron Sights]

Awesome gun.
I'd love to get a conversion cylinder for my Pietta.

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[Terryrm1-03]

I would try .457 and let the cylinder shave off some lead.I finally got to slug the barrel, i measure, .455-.456

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[Terryrm1-03]

I also got word from the Remington Society forum, this pistol was shipped in July 1864 to Army Ordnance.
She is a Civil War pistol!

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[Terryrm1-03]

Well they aren't the prettiest! But BOY she was fun to shoot!
Talk about take you back in time.
This was with 20grs 777.
230 grs. 454 conical.
Fighting caps falling off, offhand, still made my evening!
Each black line indicates a shot.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170909/a12e84d19837bc6a036e9e590c469026.jpg

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[Thumbcocker]

Awesome!

[Terryrm1-03]

Awesome!Thankyou!

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[Good Cheer]

Terry,
Got a request for you.
If you could do it, please mike out the chamber walls at their thinnest point to the outside diameter of the cylinder and report what you get.
The reason for asking is that I've been wondering how the modern day replicas measure up versus an original.
Thanks beforehand if you can.

[Terryrm1-03]

I get .088-.089

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[Good Cheer]

Thank you sir.

[ShooterAZ]

That is an awesome score, I'd love to have one of those. One of my customers brought one into the store not long too ago, it was in really bad condition and was still loaded! Looks like she still shoots well too...thanks for sharing.

[Battis]

For what it's worth, my original Remington .44 came with a spare Pietta cylinder that fits and functions perfectly. I use it when I shoot the revolver.

[Terryrm1-03]

That's great to know! Thank you!

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[Good Cheer]

Measured a .44 Pietta 1858 on the wall between the chambers and the outside of the cylinder.

Got 0.075", like a 14% reduction in wall.