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Tripplebeards
07-20-2017, 09:33 PM
I am having trouble finding the recipe. If I remember is 6% tin(I'm using pewter) and 94% pure lead? So 10lbs of pure and 9 oz of tin?
I am debating on using this in my 44 mag devistator mold. It's either this, 50% pure lead,50% COWW, and 2% tin.
Or just 98% COWW and 2% tin.
I have about 15lbs of pewter I purchased over the last two weeks to start my casting.
Larry Gibson
07-20-2017, 09:48 PM
Tripplebeards
Use the 16-1 alloy in the Devastator.....you will be a happy camper......
Tripplebeards
07-20-2017, 09:55 PM
Tripplebeards
Use the 16-1 alloy in the Devastator.....you will be a happy camper......
Larry, did I get the mix right?
I thought I saw a post that 16:1 penatrated further than AC COWW and 50/50 with 2% tin somewhere. How can a softer lead penatrate better?
GrayTech
07-20-2017, 10:07 PM
Dividing the larger number by the smaller number should give 16. Your example gives 15.666666667 so I guess you're close nuff.
Dusty Bannister
07-20-2017, 10:18 PM
16 pounds of lead and 1 pound of tin or pewter gives you 17 pounds of alloy.
John Boy
07-20-2017, 10:31 PM
Help with mixing 16:1
Three parts Lyman #2 and seven parts pure lead.
It contains 97% lead, 1.5% tin and 1.5% antimony.
After 18 hours, it hardness tests at 9.8 Bhn, and remains at that level for (at least) a year.
Tripplebeards
07-20-2017, 11:11 PM
16 pounds of lead and 1 pound of tin or pewter gives you 17 pounds of alloy.
Thanks, 16 lbs pure lead and one pound pewter will be how I ad to my pot.
Glad I held onto the 100's of lbs of pure lead flooring.
jsizemore
07-21-2017, 07:48 AM
16 ounces of lead to 1 ounce of tin/pewter.
16 ounces = 1 pound
For example: 5 lbs lead + 5 ounces tin
7 lbs lead + 7 ounces tin
Tripplebeards
07-22-2017, 09:11 AM
Three parts Lyman #2 and seven parts pure lead.
It contains 97% lead, 1.5% tin and 1.5% antimony.
After 18 hours, it hardness tests at 9.8 Bhn, and remains at that level for (at least) a year.
Is this a new mix for 16:1? Or are you trying to give me a similar BH mix? I don't believe what you listed will be mallable as the 16:1 pure soft lead and tin mix.
white eagle
07-22-2017, 11:07 AM
Mix 16 parts lead 1 part tin
just figure out the weight of your lead and divide that amount by 16
to get your tin amount
1# lead 1 oz tin
Smoke4320
07-22-2017, 11:32 AM
Thanks, 16 lbs pure lead and one pound pewter will be how I ad to my pot.
Glad I held onto the 100's of lbs of pure lead flooring.
you got it .. will make a great HP mix
John Boy
07-22-2017, 12:27 PM
Is this a new mix for 16:1? Or are you trying to give me a similar BH mix? I don't believe what you listed will be mallable as the 16:1 pure soft lead and tin mix.
Triplebeards - are you familiar with Dan Theodore? Without a doubt the most knowledgeable about ballistics including the design of the "Money Bullets" - now sold by several BPCR vendors
Dan developed the bullet and in 1:16 Bhn- tested and after the initial match trials with Keith Lay - Keith used it to obtain top gun at the Raton, NM Silhouette match several years back.
Other than being accurate, a major advantage of this mix is - " It is hard enough to hold the rifling in fast twist barrels, and prevents nose slump in paper patched bullets "
I would have to dig in my copies of the BP Cartridge News - Dan wrote a detailed article with bullet samples that showed how well his 1:16 alloy performed
So yes, it is a new mix for 1:16 ( 97% lead, 1.5% tin and 1.5% antimony). It's your choice whether to try it or disregard
Tripplebeards
07-22-2017, 05:13 PM
I made my mix of 16lbs of pure lead flooring and a pound of pewter. I melted the flooring first then added the pewter.i waited till the floating pewter melted and then I stirred nonstop for about a minute to make sure it mixed, skimmed the top, and poured into my cast iron pie slice mold. I casted four test bullets with some of the extra to check the BH with my Lee tester. I also casted a few of the pure flooring to test BH. I AC the boolits.
I would assume there is no wait time to test the BH on the pure lead and 16:1?
Grmps
07-22-2017, 05:17 PM
I hate to mention this, but I didn't see where you fluxed the mix to ensure proper and complete alloying and removal of possible contaminants.
Tripplebeards
07-22-2017, 05:37 PM
I hate to mention this, but I didn't see where you fluxed the mix to ensure proper and complete alloying and removal of possible contaminants.
I did
I found a post that said 16:1 takes approx 18 hours to fully cure?
JBinMN
07-23-2017, 12:42 AM
Posted in both topics... Trying to help ya..
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Make a printed copy, might help...:
http://reloadingtips.com/reviews/lee_bnh_chart.htm
BTW... You now have 2 topics covering almost the same thing... Kinda mixes things up there, buddy.
G'Luck though...
:)
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