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GARD72977
07-19-2017, 10:05 PM
I have been looking at Rem 513 T's a lot. I like the commercial models with redfield sights.

Im not a 22 rim fire guy. As i get older the value of not having to load all my ammo is appealing.

I may shoot a match if avalible. Im looking at very nice condition guns. Is there anything else I should consider?

garandsrus
07-20-2017, 11:33 AM
I really like the 513T! Very pretty rifle and very accurate.

Scorpion8
07-20-2017, 11:36 AM
Remington 540 is another excellent target-quality rimfire. Highly recommended.

wcp4570
07-20-2017, 04:03 PM
If you came find a nice Remington 513, buy it. I have 510's, 511, 512 & 514 and other old Remington's and they all shoot good. I've been looking for a 513 or full size 521 for awhile without success. Needless to say I like old Remington's.

wcp4570

ravelode
07-20-2017, 04:24 PM
I had one, with a 20x Ray Litschert Scope, it was bar none the most accurate .22 I have ever owned. Unfortunately it was stolen from my truck in 1976 in Susanville California. The trigger had been worked on and would go off if you hit the side of the gun a rap with your hand (with the safety engaged):shock:.

richhodg66
07-20-2017, 11:21 PM
FYI, prsman has one for sale in S&S right now.

GARD72977
07-21-2017, 05:19 PM
Im still looking. I cand find nice guns butthey are bringing a premium. The 513 t is on my short list buy may not be my next gun.

Is 650-700 about right for a 95% or better commercial gun?

rogerreloader
07-21-2017, 10:05 PM
I have a 513-t matchmaster commercial grade with the redfields rear sights and the globe fronts. I also have a set of scope mounts for the rifle. I have thought of selling it because I never shoot it anymore. It is in very good condition. Oh I also live in tupelo,Ms

williamwaco
07-22-2017, 10:50 AM
They are very nice. Very accurate. But they are not magical. There are many modern choices just as accurate for less money.

GARD72977
07-22-2017, 03:52 PM
They are very nice. Very accurate. But they are not magical. There are many modern choices just as accurate for less money.

I agree completely. I think the style and build quality on the old guns were more important . I believe the 513 would be out shot by several modern 22.

When you add in the cost of a set of redfield sights it would be hard to find a new built gun in the price range.

Im high bidder on a 513t on gunbroker right now. Im at 650 and that is tops for me.

Drm50
07-22-2017, 06:50 PM
There may be new guns that are as good as 513T for accuracy, I don't know about better. I have
had several of them, all nice condition and we're all tack drivers. The last one I had was scoped
with a 6x Fecker scope, external adjs. Had Swiss butt, palm rest and target sling. I have had M52
Wins and several other older target rifles. The 513t will hold its own against any of them. The only
thing you have to watch when buying any of these target guns is to make sure you don't get one
that has been worn out by a avid shooter. Most of them owned by individuals have not been shot
enough to show wear. Organizations like Boy Scouts & 4H bought these for their marksmanship
Programs and have seen some long use.

I have a Rem RB that started life as a 25rf/ oct barrel. In 60s I rebarreled it with a new 513T
barrel. It has a reciever sight and aperature front. It is still the terror of local turkey shoots-
shot at 100', it takes all comers. 200205

GARD72977
07-22-2017, 09:37 PM
Alright guys I bought one. Great condition probably 95% or better.
680 to my gun shop. Thats a lot for a 22 but I wanted one
200209

GARD72977
07-22-2017, 09:43 PM
That 22 looks a lot like my 1903 7-08 match gun
200210
Maybe this will get me practicing with it a little.

Bigslug
07-25-2017, 01:28 AM
With guns of this vintage, much will come down to what's in front of you. Assuming you're looking for a smallbore gun with sights as opposed to optics:

The 510 series is nice. I learned on one - wouldn't want to be without one. Makes a pretty good "club" rifle. Good enough to learn what you're doing right or wrong, if not a true player in the game.

The Winchester 69A (skinny) / 75 (heavy) are better finished guns of that same general not-quite-top-end build level. Nice trigger on those.

The Mossberg 44 / 144 series guns are good shooters, reasonably priced.

The Savage / Anschutz Model 64's are SERIOUS .22's that can be had for pretty reasonable dough. A good way to break into the game with minimal outlay.

BSA International Martinis, Winchester 52's and Remington 40X will occupy the next rung up in the $1000-ish range. Anschutz 1903's are the new option in that general ballpark. Going up from there are the serious smallbore guns for the serious competitors. Doesn't sound like you're there yet.

Geezer in NH
07-25-2017, 04:22 PM
Amazed nobody has mentioned the model 34 target. the 2 I had were equal IMHO to the win 52's

sigep1764
07-25-2017, 11:09 PM
I would look hard at CZ 455 or 452. 455 has the ability tp switch between 22lr, 22wmr, and 17hmr. Cold hammer forged hand lapped barrels from tbe factory. A Savage B22 FVSR is another choice. Heavy threaded barrel, adjustable accutrigger, and rotary mags. Both are one hplers at 25 to 50 yards in my experience with CCI SV and RWS Target.

wcp4570
07-25-2017, 11:47 PM
Amazed nobody has mentioned the model 34 target. the 2 I had were equal IMHO to the win 52's

I looked at a 34 at Cabela's a half dozen times trying to talk myself into buying it but just couldn't. Price was way to high and it didn't even have sights. The 34 is really a nice rifle.

wcp4570

Drm50
07-26-2017, 12:02 AM
Wasn't the 37 the Range Master? That is one I've never owned, in fact I've never shot one, and
haven't seen very many of them.

Forrest r
07-26-2017, 06:46 AM
Wasn't the 37 the Range Master? That is one I've never owned, in fact I've never shot one, and
haven't seen very many of them.

That's what I was thinking also, model 37.

I've had a couple 513T's in the past, they were always a solid performer. Eventually either sold or traded them off but I still have a 40x.

Don't know why but I got into collecting the sporter versions of the target rifles. The remington 513T's are extremely common but they only made 13,000+ 513's. A picture of my 513s, the sporter version of the 513T.
http://i.imgur.com/nI4YXO9.jpg

wcp4570
07-26-2017, 09:22 AM
Wasn't the 37 the Range Master? That is one I've never owned, in fact I've never shot one, and
haven't seen very many of them.

Drm50
That was a 37 I was thinking about and not a 34. The 37 is one of those I will probably never own because of the price they bring.

wcp4570

BigIron6
07-30-2017, 03:54 PM
I'm chasing a 513T myself. Found a clean one with original Lyman peep and hooded front for $350....but it's 4 hrs away. Decision decisions!!!!

HABCAN
07-30-2017, 04:31 PM
My tackdriving 541S has been discontinued, replaced I'm told by the plainer version 541T. Should be good.

Forrest r
07-31-2017, 07:19 AM
My tackdriving 541S has been discontinued, replaced I'm told by the plainer version 541T. Should be good.

The 541T is the bull bbl'd target version of the 541 series rifle.
The 541S is the tapered sporter bbl'd version of the 541 series rifle.
200864

A pair of 541s remingthon sporter rifles.

The 540 series of rifles remington put out had the fastest lock time of any rimfire rifle they made. I like to shoot off-hand with a 540 target rifle. It's relaxing to me.
200865

Clark
08-01-2017, 12:23 AM
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I bought a Rem 513T earlier this year that was missing the rear sight.
I had to put together a Redfield 57 to make it complete.
I have not shot it yet.

jarhead0321usmc
08-01-2017, 12:41 AM
I've been on the fence on purchasing a 513 for awhile now to teach my kids to shoot with once they are old enough. My wife is very encouraging in regards to teaching them to shoot young and proper safety. Something about the old 513 really intrigues me. It may be that ive always been interested in older military rifles. As well as if I were a kid a 513 would be great to learn on.

GOPHER SLAYER
08-01-2017, 02:42 PM
I have a Remington 513T, Model 37 with adj butt plate, Winchester Model 75, 67A, Winder Musket, Stevens 44-1/2 & BSA INTL, Marlin 39a,all in .22 rim fire, and I rarely shoot any of them. I went out to my shop to bring them inside to take pictures but the heat drove me back to the air condition inside. Maybe later.

waco
08-01-2017, 06:01 PM
I have a Kimber 22 Hunter. I am VERY pleased with this little rifle. Best .22 I've ever owned.

GARD72977
08-01-2017, 06:44 PM
I have a Remington 513T, Model 37 with adj butt plate, Winchester Model 75, 67A, Winder Musket, Stevens 44-1/2 & BSA INTL, Marlin 39a,all in .22 rim fire, and I rarely shoot any of them. I went out to my shop to bring them inside to take pictures but the heat drove me back to the air condition inside. Maybe later.

Thats quite a collection. There is not a gun on that list I would not love to own! My 513 will deliver to the gun shop tomorrow. I wont get off in time to get it until Friday. Hoping to get it to the range this weekend.

GOPHER SLAYER
08-01-2017, 07:40 PM
Well a dark cloud came over and cooled things a bit so I went to the shop and dug out the .22s, not all of them. Here are some pictures. I think you can tell the names by looking but in case you can't. Top to bottom. Remington 37 with changeable butt plates and one really far out adjustable palm rest with Parker- Hale sights. Winchester 75 with Redfield sights. Remington 513T with Redfield rear sight and factory front sight. Winchester model 67A. This rifle appears unfired. I bought the 513 T at an auction for wagons and horse gear, saddles, bridles & other tack. I was walking out of the auction when I saw the rifle, took a bid number and waited & waited. Finally I go back to the people sending up items to the auctioneer. In my kindest voice I asked when the dear might be sending up the rifle? She said, [since you asked so nicely sweetheart, I will send it up next], and she did. Only one other guy was bidding against me, the owner I suspect. I thought to myself, I am going to $200 dude and if you bid one more dollar you are taking it home, but he didn't and I got the 513T for $200 plus auction commission of $37. I could post pictures of my other target .22s but I am tard. I just noticed that I have pictures of other .22 target rifles from an earlier time so here goes. Now I am really tard.

Petrol & Powder
08-01-2017, 08:25 PM
The 541T is the bull bbl'd target version of the 541 series rifle.
The 541S is the tapered sporter bbl'd version of the 541 series rifle.
200864

A pair of 541s remingthon sporter rifles.

The 540 series of rifles remington put out had the fastest lock time of any rimfire rifle they made. I like to shoot off-hand with a 540 target rifle. It's relaxing to me.
200865

The best .22 rimfire I ever owned was a 541S. Like an idiot, I traded it in for a 541T with the belief that the heavier barrel would shoot better. The thin barrel 541 shot better than anything I ever owned, don't know why I thought I could improve it but I was young & dumb.
(now I'm old and dumb ;) )
The 541T is a great rifle but no better than the thin barreled 541.

arlon
08-01-2017, 10:58 PM
I like the old Remington 22s. I ran across a 521-T Junior Special a few weeks ago with a marbles rear buckhorn sight (no peep sight). I thought it might fit my wife well and it does. She got to shoot it for the first time yesterday and had a ball with it shooting steel at the silhouette range. It was on target when we got it and I never got it out of her hands to try myself. This one was a mess but cleaned up nicely. It now has a new life.

mac1911
08-05-2017, 10:47 AM
I like my 1943 513T it's one of my better shooters. I like the full size 22s and the match sight set ups.
Although I think if I had to replace my 513t today for $650+ I think I would rethink a newer platform. In all honesty my daughter's rascal has a better trigger than my 513t.
Also that little gun shoots very well. Not to far behind the 513t with my skill set.

GARD72977
08-05-2017, 10:57 AM
I picked up the 513 yesterday. Straight from the FFL to the range. I put a 4" paper plate up at 50 yds. I installed the rear sight and first shot off hand was on the bottom of the plate! I knew I was going to like this gun. The sights sit a little low on the gun. I had to get the feel of geting my head that low on the stock. The 4" plate was a little big for the front sight insert. I made a plus sign with 4 black pasters and was able to get a better sight picture. I didnt set any off hand records but had a lot of fun.

The gun is pretty neat. Its obviously from a different era. The color case hardning is odd for me on a bolt gun. Metal is in excellent shape. The wood has a few dings consistant with match use. As mentioned before the trigger is not great. Overall I love the gun.

mac1911
08-10-2017, 08:26 PM
I've been on the fence on purchasing a 513 for awhile now to teach my kids to shoot with once they are old enough. My wife is very encouraging in regards to teaching them to shoot young and proper safety. Something about the old 513 really intrigues me. It may be that ive always been interested in older military rifles. As well as if I were a kid a 513 would be great to learn on.
big kids maybe! I started my daughter at 5 on the savage rascal darn good gun for the money.

captain-03
08-11-2017, 02:38 AM
You WILL enjoy the 513T. I have two of them and enjoy shooting them just as much as I do the Mossberg M44s, Rem 40Xs, Win 52Ds, and H&R 12s using irons. GREAT little rifle for the young ones to learn on as they are not as heavy as the others.

Eldon
08-11-2017, 03:52 AM
Sold my tack driving bull barrel Savage bolt gun and bought Savage 64TRSR 22LR THREADED BBL.

Very accurate, target stock, ready for my can, semi-auto.

201662

Wheelwaits
08-14-2017, 08:12 PM
I like the old Remington 22s. I ran across a 521-T Junior Special a few weeks ago with a marbles rear buckhorn sight (no peep sight). I thought it might fit my wife well and it does. She got to shoot it for the first time yesterday and had a ball with it shooting steel at the silhouette range. It was on target when we got it and I never got it out of her hands to try myself. This one was a mess but cleaned up nicely. It now has a new life.

Rustle up a Lyman 57 RS rear ......Is the front swivel plate still there??

Wheelwaits
08-14-2017, 08:18 PM
I picked up the 513 yesterday. Straight from the FFL to the range. I put a 4" paper plate up at 50 yds. I installed the rear sight and first shot off hand was on the bottom of the plate! I knew I was going to like this gun. The sights sit a little low on the gun. I had to get the feel of geting my head that low on the stock. The 4" plate was a little big for the front sight insert. I made a plus sign with 4 black pasters and was able to get a better sight picture. I didnt set any off hand records but had a lot of fun.

The gun is pretty neat. Its obviously from a different era. The color case hardning is odd for me on a bolt gun. Metal is in excellent shape. The wood has a few dings consistant with match use. As mentioned before the trigger is not great. Overall I love the gun.

The ones used by the military will have the comb of the stock cut down to make it easier to get on the sights... The un- altered ones bring more. They also will have a ramp front sight instead of a globe. Most are parkerized. Rear should be a Redfield 75 on a mounting block

GARD72977
08-27-2017, 10:16 PM
Shot a on line match today. You could shoot as many 5 bull targets as you want. Turn in your best. I had one target where I was in the zone. 10 shots (2 targets) in a row. These are the best 2 50yd groups I have ever shot. Unfortunately the other 3 bulls were not so good. Ended up shooting a 213 on a A23 target.202739

I really enjoy this gun

Digital Dan
09-10-2017, 04:19 PM
513T models rock.

https://i.imgur.com/Clrlk3n.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/QMhZwBs.jpg

oldhenry
09-21-2017, 09:33 PM
That's what I was thinking also, model 37.

I've had a couple 513T's in the past, they were always a solid performer. Eventually either sold or traded
them off but I still have a 40x.

Don't know why but I got into collecting the sporter versions of the target rifles. The remington 513T's are extremely common but they only made 13,000+ 513's. A picture of my 513s, the sporter version of the 513T.
http://i.imgur.com/nI4YXO9.jpg

That's a mighty fine 513S. I always wanted one, but they're scarce.
I have a 511, 512, 512P & a 521T. I also gave another 521T to my younger son.
My 511 looks like death warmed over: pd. $32.00 for it in '75 from a pawn shop. It is the most accurate rifle I own. The prior owner tried to mount a side mount for a scope by attaching it to the stock.....a real "Bubba". It shoots so well that I left the stock as is. With the stock open sights no squirrel is safe.

I like all of the 500 series Remingtons.

Henry