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Hogtamer
06-22-2017, 04:13 PM
Longbow sent me some of his nicely cast .678 balls, range lead IIRC, ~ 465 grains, to test in my rifled 3" 870. Loaded 10 in new 12 ga. Cheddite 3" hulls, 38 grns Alliant Steel powder, Nobel Sport 1 oz wads, 1 - 20 ga hard card in wad, a little #47 buffer, ball on top of that. Used a frangible clear plastic overshot disc and 6 pt crimp for a nice looking shell. These should be moving around 1500 fps. All from BPI. 198133 198136

Shot 5 each at measured 50 and 75 yds. The 75 yd target has only 4 holes as I had 1 squibb load, apparently a weak primer as all charges were hand weighed, but got incomplete combustion with one. Typical Steel powder big muzzle blast but reasonable recoil. Yanked one pretty bad at 75 yds but 1st 2 at 50 almost in same hole.

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The fit was perfect in my gun as witnessed by the recovered wads in excellent shape. Hulls unmarked, ejected smoothly. Could go several more grains of powder but see little advantage to doing so. May do that and see what 100 yds looks like and shoot a few from smoothbore as well. For any size deer, hog or black bear for that matter, there is plenty of power in these loads. And I hate to admit it, but someone a lttle better behind the gun could prolly tighten these groups some.

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copdills
06-22-2017, 04:59 PM
Looks Great Thanks for the information

longbow
06-23-2017, 12:48 AM
Looking good Hal! That 50 yard group looks pretty nice.

I wonder if the 75 yard group might be tightened up a bit by roughing up the ball a bit for more grip on the wad... or patching for tighter fit. The wads look good but I wonder if the ball might be slipping a bit with the relatively fast twist and small bearing area. a 12 ga. ball really wants a slow twist of around 1:100". I doubt spinning it faster hurts except if it skids in the shotcup.

I'll be interested in your 100 yard tests. Thats where things get interesting!

I think if ball/shotcup/bore fit is good then accuracy should be similar to a good round ball muzzleloading rifle at 100 yards. Easy to say though and not so easy to do.

I do wish someone would make a rifled barrel with round ball twist. I do like round balls.

Thanks for posting results and keep up the good work.

Longbow