Vaporizing Milk Jugs

[49FMarlin]

Im looking to buy a Mold from NOE for my SP101 .357 and my Match Champion
to do 1 thing,
I want to Vaporize Milk Jugs,,OK my G?F wants to Vaporize them,:p
WE saw a tube vid of a Lady with a 44 mag doing just that, and now my G?F wants to do it,
a new mold is cheaper than a 44 Mag NO i WONT buy a 44 mag

I don't want a wrist breaker, or she will not be happy she likes shooting 38's with the lee 105SWC, but all they do is put leaky holes in milk jugs:sad:
this does not make momma happy

what mold would you buy to Make a G?F HAPPY? IN .357/38 ?
360-160-WFN ? casting with the hollow point?
360-148-WC-HB ? flipped or not ?

those are my guesses and there just guesses

Ill be powder coating whatever i shoot
lead/WW mix?
mix it soft? or hard?

thanks all for helping me make Momma happy

[Beagle333]

I like the 360-160 WFN in HP. It shoots like a laser out of my GP100 and will make a really nice splash too.

[Sasquatch-1]

Well, if she wants a good reaction from a milk jug she will have to use a round with a lot of authority. Try a heavier bullet with a much softer alloy.

[L Erie Caster]

A 38 is never going to perform like a 44mag, but the 357 will come close. So what you need to do is use a heavy bullet in the 1200fps range or more. She may not like shooting it, but that is what it takes.

[murf205]

Sorry guy's, but I'm going in the other direction. If I wanted to make a lot of hydraulic shock and try to explode a milk jug, I'd go with a 110 or 125 gr j-bullet hollow point with a lotta' lead exposed and driven as fast as you SAFELY can. Your SP101 might not have a long enough barrel to get the velocity up but ....the only way to find out is to load 'em up ad get to shootin'. Good luck and hang on the GF who likes to shoot and let us know how this turns out. Pics are always welcomed.

[imashooter2]

Sorry guy's, but I'm going in the other direction. If I wanted to make a lot of hydraulic shock and try to explode a milk jug, I'd go with a 110 or 125 gr j-bullet hollow point with a lotta' lead exposed and driven as fast as you SAFELY can. Your SP101 might not have a long enough barrel to get the velocity up but ....the only way to find out is to load 'em up ad get to shootin'. Good luck and hang on the GF who likes to shoot and let us know how this turns out. Pics are always welcomed.

The correct answer. The lightest bullet you can find, with the deepest hollow point available, driven as fast as the gun can handle will provide the best terminal result on water filled milk jugs.

[Lloyd Smale]

yup buy a box of 110 jacketed hp and roar them. It takes a pretty good wack to VAPORIZE a milk jug. Tell you what really works in cast is my old 50 Alaskan shooting a 400 grain hp cast out of pure at about 1800 fps. tell you what doesn't do it! a 38 special or any light recoiling handgun shooting cast.

[rond]

Hollow base wadcutter loaded backwards.

[lightman]

I'm in the light weight crowd. 110 grain hp and a case full of 110 or 296. Maybe let her shoot a 223 with a plastic tip bullet like a V-Max.

[imashooter2]

I'm in the light weight crowd. 110 grain hp and a case full of 110 or 296. Maybe let her shoot a 223 with a plastic tip bullet like a V-Max.

Oh yeah, a 36 or 40 grain varmint bullet out of a .223 rifle will leave nothing but mist.

[OS OK]

She said 'vaporize' right? . . . "C-4...it doesn't leave unsightly broken plastic jugs everywhere..." :bigsmyl2:

[scattershot]

I'll have to throw in with the light fast bullet guys, too. Also, try the large bottles of soda, too. They really make an awesome display.

[Larry Gibson]

Sorry guy's, but I'm going in the other direction. If I wanted to make a lot of hydraulic shock and try to explode a milk jug, I'd go with a 110 or 125 gr j-bullet hollow point with a lotta' lead exposed and driven as fast as you SAFELY can. Your SP101 might not have a long enough barrel to get the velocity up but ....the only way to find out is to load 'em up ad get to shootin'. Good luck and hang on the GF who likes to shoot and let us know how this turns out. Pics are always welcomed.

Another concurrence with this post.

Either buy a box of 110 gr HPs (some are loaded pretty light) or preferably Winchester or Federal 125 gr 357 magnum HPs. The Win or Fed 125s will do the best job of splattering milk jugs of water. My wife shoots them out of her (I thought it was mine when I bought it......) 2 1/2" M19 S&W w/o problems. Excellent ear protection is a must, I suggest foam plugs and muffs.

Larry Gibson

[jdfoxinc]

Tannerite.

[Texas by God]

I'm not standing within 100yds of Tannerite! I suggest a 105 Lee cast of pure lead and drill it out deep to HP. Load it fast. Also the Hornady Critical Defense pink Cancer Awareness 95 grs are pretty waspy.

[49FMarlin]

some good replys, BUT, I'm not buying a 223, Im NOT buying any store bought ammo,

I want to cast my own,

give me some NOE Mold ideas folks
did any of my above choices look good?
lead mix?

[Driver33]

I would use a light weight bullet an drive it as fast as I safely could. Ad food coloring to the water in the jug while your at it

[reddog81]

Anything driven fast enough will do the job, but there is a huge difference between .38 Special and .44 Magnum. If you're thinking you accomplish the same effect with .38 Special you will be disappointed regardless of the mold.

I'd try soft lead for expansion and any hollow point mold. Lighter would probably be better since it will be traveling faster given equal pressure.

[country gent]

For the hydrolic effect your looking for a light hollow point moving as fast as possible will give the results desired. Something 110-125 grns with a large deep hollow point ( you need to dump all that energy and velocity into the water in the jug not behind it in the backstop). Another trick to milk jugs is to glue the caps on when filled to seal and allow more pressure to build before the jug lets go. Water ballons can be impressive targets also. What I would try first is suggested above 110 grn sierra hollow cavities loaded to full +p velocities or better still full house magnum velocities. Then test the performance on the jugs. A mould that cast a bullet similar with hollow point can be purchased. We used to get dented cans cases of tomato soup from work and used them for targets with different rounds and distances. The sealed cans and tin really could be spectacular with some rounds. 16 ounce were good for 22s the 48 ounce were better for the bigger rounds. Watch the supermarkets for dented can sales of tomato soup or others similar for her to use for targets. Empty latex paint cans have enough left if filled with water and sealed will leave a big splash also.

[Kestrel4k]

Not what the OP is looking for, but I've found that 125gr JHP's from a .35 Whelen do pretty well.

[imashooter2]

From the NOE catalog, get the hollow base wadcutter, cast of pure plus a bit of tin, load it backwards and stand on it.

[Big Boomer]

110 or 125 gr. JHP bullets at as high velocity as possible is the right answer as suggested ... and with both plugs and muffs for your ears. That's from an old guy whose hearing is just about gone. I won't shoot anything ... ANYTHING!! ... without plugs and muffs. Have an appointment this coming Friday to be tested for a new set of hearing aids that will set me back about $ 5,300 and perhaps plus tax. Save your hearing. Big Boomer

[49FMarlin]

JHP's might be the right answer if i wanted store bought,,,
But I'm asking for something i can cast myself,

[Swede44mag]

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/813475/lee-6-cavity-bullet-mold-356-95-rf-356-diameter-95-grain-flat-nose
One possible boolit mold.
Load them in 357 brass close to max. I use to shoot 95gr rn cast boolits I made with my RCBS or Lyman mold out of my 8-3/8" S&W they will scream and should vaporize your milk jugs.
Ever heard of SuperVel this was my version.

[country gent]

My 357 Herret with the 110 grn Hollow Cavity sierras around 1900-2000fps really vaporized the cans of soup making a red ball around 3 ft in dia.

[gnostic]

I have the Lyman Devastator HP for my 9mm-133 grain, that are explosive in the nine. They drop from the mold at .358 and out of a 357 magnum they'd no doubt be impressive...

[RogerDat]

http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/product_info.php?cPath=35_299&products_id=2280&osCsid=0o8qv5bfkk3did4ocu0k3o80m5 is about the only HP I currently see in that size and it is a 150 gr.

Lee has a 125 RF nosed that could be drilled for hollow point, would get even lighter with metal removed. https://www.titanreloading.com/bullet-molds/357-mag-38spec-38-sw-38colt-np/lee-dc-mold-358-125-rf-

NOE also has the http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/product_info.php?cPath=34_256&products_id=2023&osCsid=0o8qv5bfkk3did4ocu0k3o80m5 which might gain a touch of diameter if "bumped" on the nose using a drill press or arbor press with a stop set. Or could try PC which I have never done to a hollow point so I don't know how it changes expansion but it does let you use softer lead and increases diameter.

Maybe people will comment on the specific bullets or recall something similar that worked well for them. Me I wouldn't turn my nose up at store bought, I know not what you are "shooting" for but if the ammo for vaporization is only going to be used in limited amounts and people can recommend some projectile to use with your reloading that they know works... Not the same as casting your own projectile but might be the more efficient route to the girlfriend pleasing vaporized milk jugs. Not sure wives or girl friends care as much about our making the bullet as the do the spray of vaporization.

The real question is totally full jug of water? Or leave a little air space so pressure builds before jug gives out? Pumpkins with small hole and water filled also work well. At least with hollow point 45 ACP.

PS really high speed video (lots of frames per second) will provide you with slow motion viewing, and can be sped up for more rapid "expansion" of the milk jug. You take 100 frames a second and play back at 30 or 50 etc. to slow it down. Had a camera that could do 400 fps, couldn't do it super HD or for very long but you could see drops flying off a dog shaking wet coat or golf swing in slow motion. Lot of point and shoots these days have something for slow motion. And if first you don't succeed getting a good video just "shoot" again!

[chuckbuster]

Way far from what teh OP asked but a 200 grain Core Lokt factory load .350 Rem Mag will actually create a cloud on a calm day....

[Ateam]

I'm not standing within 100yds of Tannerite! I suggest a 105 Lee cast of pure lead and drill it out deep to HP. Load it fast. Also the Hornady Critical Defense pink Cancer Awareness 95 grs are pretty waspy.

Yes, this. You could also HP the mold, the lees are cheap, probably end up at about 100 grains. Use a soft alloy.

[Digital Dan]

Dunno about milk jugs, but do have a bit of experience with a 2" S&W .38 loaded with Hornady HBWC backwards...versus barracudas. The load will decapitate a 4' cuda every time. Splatters a bit of gore on the gunnels as well.

[Texas by God]

Pure lead, large HP lightweight going fast. Cast some HBWC and drill them out as much as possible. That's all I got.

[oldblinddog]

This: http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/product_info.php?cPath=35_304&products_id=895&osCsid=849rm0t8fbe0bed6m7red29dc0

[dverna]

Before buying a mold, get a dozen bullets of what you think is the best bullet and shoot them. Then decide if it is worth the investment.

Blowing up milk jugs gets old after a while. Find enough jugs, fill with water, carry them around, one shot and they are done.

[Hickok]

I have the Lyman Devastator HP for my 9mm-133 grain, that are explosive in the nine. They drop from the mold at .358 and out of a 357 magnum they'd no doubt be impressive...Right there you go. I would bet on that boolit out of a .357 mag. @ about 1400 fps.

[jmort]

Just on the subject of water "jugs"
12 gauge Brenneke Magnum Crush

[Ickisrulz]

Fill the milk jug with very hot water and then let it cool over night. The container will have a bit of pressure to it.

[country gent]

Actually filling with very hot water and letting cool will create a reverse pressure or a vacuum in the jug. When canning or preserving things heating a semi sealed container and allowing to cool creates a vacuum removing oxegon. Filled with carbonated water and a few shakes after sealed then pressure will result. On a plastic jug you will see the jug collapsing when cooled.

[fredj338]

A light weight, wide/deep HP running hard. Don't cast tem too hard. The 357sig or 357mag with 125gr @ 1400fps will pretty much vaporize a 1gal jug.

[RogerDat]

Figure it is worth mentioning NOE has all their 358/360 molds on sale.

This is one I mentioned, it is about page 23 of the mold specials. HP less than 150 grain, with GC so you can push it a bit.
http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/product_info.php?products_id=1538&osCsid=s5uqoe7u87gvr6elrotvaorgu2

Lot of molds there, also the HBWC that some have suggested be fired backwards. I'm a little skeptical of the ballistics on that but you may well be able to get plain base gas checks on the WC end so you can push them a bit, and it is a useful mold for mild, soft lead target rounds. Fired normally (hollow base not HP) they need to be low power so the hollow base skirt doesn't rip off and get left behind as a barrel obstruction. Most put a max of 800 fps and many say not over 750 fps. Turned base forward like a massive hollow point I have no idea what sort of velocity one can get to. Lot of folks say they are not an especially good HP round, others say they are awesome.
HBWC mold
http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/index.php?cPath=35_304&osCsid=s5uqoe7u87gvr6elrotvaorgu2

All the specials.
http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/specials.php?osCsid=s5uqoe7u87gvr6elrotvaorgu2

[rwadley]

Adding dry ice will increase pressure, too.

[Hannibal]

Before buying a mold, get a dozen bullets of what you think is the best bullet and shoot them. Then decide if it is worth the investment.

Blowing up milk jugs gets old after a while. Find enough jugs, fill with water, carry them around, one shot and they are done.

I agree. I find moles and oppossums to be just as bad. Carcass disposal and all that.

[zymguy]

NO i WONT buy a 44 mag


i'm a fairly new member to this community, but i feel close. When I read this my knee jerk reaction was concern, I mean who wouldnt want a 44 mag ? then i read more closely and I know what you need 7"ish bbl ruger blackhawk in 45colt . Probobly gonna have to tart a new thread for what molds youll need for it tho...:kidding:

[dbarry1]

+1 for light and fast bullet. Vaporizing things with gun never gets old.

Ever. :D

[Sasquatch-1]

I know the OP was originally looking for a cheaper way to destroy water jugs, but here is the solution if money isn't a concern.

GARY REEDER'S GNR CARTRIDGES

356 GNR, On the right is the standard factory 357 magnum. This cartridge is a necked down 41 magnum and gives the 357 bullet as much energy as a 44 magnum. Simple to load and no backing out in the cylinder makes the 356 GNR an excellent revolver cartridge for medium sized game. A 125 grain jhp will do almost 2100 fps.


198052

[RogerDat]

I don't know about milk jugs but step sons 44 mag makes a neat little hole through a 4"x4" wood block, 45 colt RNFP makes a pile of 4 inch long splinters scattered on the berm. At least inside ranges where the 45 is still packing some heat.

[Hickok]

I realize 49FMarlin doesn't want to buy another gun, (come on now, we all want to buy a new one!), But I was just wondering what a .22 Magnum or one of the .17 rimfires in a handgun would do to the milkjug with water?

Easy handguns to shoot, and pretty good speeds with ballistic-tip type bullets.

[M-Tecs]

The highest bullet velocity coupled with the softest most explosive bullet will make the biggest splash. A light pure lead hollow point possibly paper patched would be your best bet for cast. If was me I would just purchase a box of 0ne of these:

http://www.bullets.com/products/-38-Cal-357-110-Grain-JHP-Bullets-Box-of-100/BL10289

http://www.hornady.com/store/38-Cal-.357-110-gr-HP-XTP/

https://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item/000214007/38-caliber-point357-diameter-110-grain-jacketed-hollow-point-100-count

Load it it as fast as safely possible. Hodgdon has some H110 and W296 loads that are over 2,000 fps in a 10 inch barrel. By the time she shoots a 100 jugs she will be bored with it.

[jmort]

A big slow 12 gauge slug will have far greater effect
Speed is nothing compared to big

[M-Tecs]

The OP has a 357 revolver. 12 gauge slugs won't chamber in it.

As a kid I grew up in a small town. I shot a lot with the local police. The most utilized target was confiscated cheap beer. I have shot hundreds if not thousands of full beer cans. That was in the mid 70 and LE still used 357 revolvers. Their 125 hollow points couldn't hold a candle to my max 45 colt loads using a 185 hollow points at around 1,500 fps. In the 357 the 125 splashed the cans way better the 140 or 158's

[KYCaster]

You already have the mold. Cast it soft, drill a hollow point and work up a max load of W231/HP38. Should work just fine.

Jerry

[Sasquatch-1]

I shoot in a 2x4 match on a regular basis. I use a .44 loaded with a 260 grn. wad cutter and 7 grains of Unique. The round makes a nice neat .430 hole for the first 1/4 to 1/2 inch and then knocks 6-to 10 by about 1.5 inch chunk out of the back.



I don't know about milk jugs but step sons 44 mag makes a neat little hole through a 4"x4" wood block, 45 colt RNFP makes a pile of 4 inch long splinters scattered on the berm. At least inside ranges where the 45 is still packing some heat.

Now if you want to see something vaporized, watch the Demolition Ranch video of shooting dry ice with a 50 BMG. That's impressive.

[sw282]

Complete vaporization=35gr Hornady NTX.. 42.5gr Win 748 powder in a 220 Swift case.

Thru my old Model 70 Winchester Varmint yields 4500 FPS..

lt'll do the same on a Prairie Dog out to 400yds

[shaman]

Look, I'm not trying to say "you can't get there from here." However, the path is going to be hard.

First off, just about anything you can put through a 357 Magnum is going to punch holes. Fast and light is the way to go. However, the bottom line is a GP100 is not going to produce the kind of fast you need.

I faced a somewhat similar problem with a 9mm last summer. I was trying to get a cast bullet to work in a P1-P38. I gave it my best shot and the pistol just did not like it. I looked down the road and realized if I wanted to shoot cast lead in 9mm, it would be cheaper and easier to find a pistol that did not have as finicky a diet. I bought a Ruger SR9 and my first trial was a success. Yes, it set me back $500, but it was easier and cheaper in the long run when you figure that it was going to be multiple molds and multiple attempts with each mold to get my idea to work. Meanwhile, the P1-P38 eats Berry HB's just fine.

The other thing in your way is your girlfriend's capabilities. She probably thinks 38 SP's are her huckleberry. My GF shoots a GP-100 and carries it as her primary CC. However, her wrist can't handle full-house 357 MAG loads. You also have the problem that the GP-100 has a relatively short barrel, so adding powder to solve the problem is just going to give you more flash and bang.

I've got some serious 357 Mag loads for my Marlin 1894 using a 147 Grain Lee GC over H110. Yes, it will pop a milkjug, but it does not vaporize it. I've tried these rounds out of a 7" Blackhawk-- Yikes! Not for the girls.

I also have a Super Blackhawk in 44 Mag. Again, here is a piece of hardware that will break a milk jug, but you have to have a serious load of H110 under a light bullet to make the kind of show you're looking for. The GF's wrist ain't going to like it.

The cheapest way to make milkjugs turn into mist is a .223. A Ruger American will set you back $3 bills. If you want a handgun that does it, try a 223 Rem pistol. These are sure bets.

Then there's the option of finding a new GF. Sometimes these can be had at remarkably low prices. Find one that has a low operating cost and cheaper demands. Trade the 44 in for a pair of 22's and be happy.

I'm just saying, sometimes it pays to think outside the box.

[725]

murf205 & rond have it nailed. Light boolit, kind of hard, driven fast with a big hollow point. Turn the hollow based wad cutter around backwards. Won't take but a couple of inches of water before all that energy is redirected in all directions.

[Bert2368]

You are looking for the highest amount of energy possible, deposited completely into the water-

Doubling the weight on target at the same speed doubles the energy (and breaks your girlfriend's wrist).

Doubling the velocity at the same weight SQUARES the energy, and keeps recoil comparatively low.

So a fast bullet which equals a LIGHT bullet, and so soft and expanding (or completely frangible, a bullet that is reduced to DUST in the first inch or two of water) that the bullet virtually STOPS in the 7" or so of water in your jug, depositing nearly all available energy inside the targets.

Yes, a wide flat bullet from a .44 or a 45 rifle bullet does what she wants too. When you have a lot more energy to begin with, you can use it less efficiently...

Personally? I have several 55 gallon garbage bags of the "tall boy" aluminum cans that energy drinks come in. I fill a couple dozen with water and place them out in front of the berm on our range, and at 100 yards these get blown into a cloud of water droplets and several pieces of explosively formed auminum sheet pretty dependable by a 40 grain tipped or HP varmint bullet out of the .221 Rem Fireball CZ 527. The round is so light recoiling and fast, you see the can do a disappearing act really well with the scope set down to 8 power or so. NO ONE who can pick up an 8lb. rifle will complain about the recoil and it's not very loud, compared to a .223 doing the same job.

I know you want to work with what you have... Try a short .357 jacket filled with hydraulically compressed powdered metal or dust fine lead shot coated with a small ammount of teflon oil to keep it from forming a strong bond between the particles. Give them a HP full WC nose profile. Aim for 90 or so grains "all in" weight. Drive as fast as safely possible.

The dies, supplies and press to make that load cost more than a new .221 FB pistol or rifle, just sayin'.

[tunnug]

What about pressurizing the bottles with air?, I got this e-mail from Air-gun depot http://www.airgundepot.com/umarex-big-blast-target-caps.html?trk_msg=CQ6NT0SGDKQK933P3I63M62A78&trk_contact=QLHP7EHB3N48C8E4INGISMJ4NG&trk_sid=0DVOUJQNATQSMQJN6M23MUN1OS&utm_source=Listrak&utm_medium=Email&utm_term=Shop+Blast+Caps&utm_campaign=2017+Video&utm_content=Throttle+And+Blast+Caps ,

they are soda bottle caps that can be pressurized with a bicycle pump, or you can make your own as in this video;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc2Y1Lq0Iyk , I'll be doing one or the other soon.

Edit to add, you can partially fill with colored water to add to the OOH and AHHH.

[murf205]

A big slow 12 gauge slug will have far greater effect
Speed is nothing compared to big
OH yes, it is. A 50 gr bullet out of a 22-250 @ 3600fps will sling a lot more water and jug than a big slug @ 1200 fps. I've shot milk jugs full of water with every thing I own and fast and frangible is the most devastating. A friend and I shot milk jugs filled with water @ 500 yds with a 100gr bullet in a 25-06 and never thought we were hitting them till we went down range and found tiny holes in them and all the water drained out. At 50 to 100 yds, with the velocity being very high, the jugs exploded. If you want devastation, there are 3 things you must have 1-frangible bullets, 2- velocity, 3-more velocity.

[Sasquatch-1]

I saw what could be a potential hazard with the one the guy makes. That metal valve could come flying back at you with the speed to do harm. The all plastic caps would lose a lot of their energy due to their being a lot lighter.



What about pressurizing the bottles with air?, I got this e-mail from Air-gun depot http://www.airgundepot.com/umarex-big-blast-target-caps.html?trk_msg=CQ6NT0SGDKQK933P3I63M62A78&trk_contact=QLHP7EHB3N48C8E4INGISMJ4NG&trk_sid=0DVOUJQNATQSMQJN6M23MUN1OS&utm_source=Listrak&utm_medium=Email&utm_term=Shop+Blast+Caps&utm_campaign=2017+Video&utm_content=Throttle+And+Blast+Caps ,

they are soda bottle caps that can be pressurized with a bicycle pump, or you can make your own as in this video;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc2Y1Lq0Iyk , I'll be doing one or the other soon.

Edit to add, you can partially fill with colored water to add to the OOH and AHHH.

[murf205]

Very true, but it can't be as bad as what I witnessed at a public range a few yrs ago. While I was unloading my van, two nit wits shot a 20 lb bottle of propane-@ 50 yds no less. I now hold a new world record for getting the hell outta there.

[M-Tecs]

Very true, but it can't be as bad as what I witnessed at a public range a few yrs ago. While I was unloading my van, two nit wits shot a 20 lb bottle of propane-@ 50 yds no less. I now hold a new world record for getting the hell outta there.

propane tanks only blowup in the movies. While I have never shot a full 20 pound tank I was given a case of one pounders that started to rust thru. Shot them all. Hitting them with a 220 followed by a tracer thing got more interesting but a trtacer qnly didn't set them off.

This one uses a flare as a flame source

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLoSyfsO85U

[M-Tecs]

Without an external flame source.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9agVr5LPx4

[M-Tecs]

one more


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FHTXwpVMvs

[M-Tecs]

with a tracer


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhti2xAB-Gk

[tunnug]

I saw what could be a potential hazard with the one the guy makes. That metal valve could come flying back at you with the speed to do harm. The all plastic caps would lose a lot of their energy due to their being a lot lighter.
True, didn't think about the metal one but the plastic ones have a molded in eye where you thread a nylon line to keep the caps in check.

[murf205]

I don't know what these 2 guys shot the propane tank with and I sure didn't stick around to find out. That range has a bad reputation of crazies , fiddling with guns while people are down range and all sorts of unsafe things. It was my last trip. I only went because it is only 4 miles from my house and I wanted to check 1 load, but not bad enough to hang around. Most of the time , it looks like a garbage dump with all kinds of junk laying around that people have shot. It has since been closed.

[Sasquatch-1]

That sounds a lot like the public range near where I live before it was closed. Actually heard a case where a guy started walking down range while others were still firing.


That range has a bad reputation of crazies , fiddling with guns while people are down range and all sorts of unsafe things. It was my last trip. Most of the time , it looks like a garbage dump with all kinds of junk laying around that people have shot. It has since been closed.

[murf205]

I have a friend who was at this range when somebody fired a rifle downrange while someone was down range putting up a target. He said that the shooter wore a pretty good *** whipping for that and had to leave to boot. That's what happens when there is no range officers.