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Juan Jose
06-18-2017, 10:18 PM
Which one for .44 Spl.? These would be for target loads using Unique, and launched out of a M-29.
Hunting with lead is no longer permitted in CA so these will be for fun as well as training for HD
Thanks!

Larry Gibson
06-18-2017, 11:15 PM
Are you referring to commercial swaged and/or cast LSWC vs the 245 gr Keith? More specific info (mould nomenclature) on each bullet would be helpful.

Larry Gibson

Juan Jose
06-19-2017, 09:11 AM
Are you referring to commercial swaged and/or cast LSWC vs the 245 gr Keith? More specific info (mould nomenclature) on each bullet would be helpful.

Larry Gibson
I've got the 245gr Keith cast from the Lyman mold #429421. My sample of 240gr LSWC are from Hunter's Shack as I don't yet have a mold for those.
The minimal extra weight of the Keith, I'm guessing, would be closer to the factory 246gr LRN at the paper punching velocities I'm dialing down to.

Guesser
06-19-2017, 09:11 AM
They both will work well....after you work up the perfect load for your gun. Cast your own or buy, it's just a matter of you doing due diligence....Do you know what diameter you need? That's first.

My 429421 drops at well over 250 gr. from a 10-12 BHN alloy. Works well in all 4 of my 44 Specials.

chuckbuster
06-19-2017, 07:11 PM
429421 and 7.5 Unique the classic "Skeeter" Load
Worked then
Still works today
Kevin

white eagle
06-19-2017, 08:31 PM
429421 and 7.5 Unique the classic "Skeeter" Load
Worked then
Still works today
Kevin


What he said

Larry Gibson
06-19-2017, 08:58 PM
429421 and 7.5 Unique the classic "Skeeter" Load
Worked then
Still works today
Kevin

Though a very good load Skeeter's is not really a "target" load, it is a +P 44 SPL load.

For Unique use 6.5 gr for a target/factory duplication load. It will give you 800 - 850 fpf with good accuracy.

Larry Gibson

Juan Jose
06-20-2017, 09:50 AM
Though a very good load Skeeter's is not really a "target" load, it is a +P 44 SPL load.

For Unique use 6.5 gr for a target/factory duplication load. It will give you 800 - 850 fpf with good accuracy.

Larry Gibson

Thanks!

white eagle
06-20-2017, 11:29 PM
I got 950 or so with that load in the special I had
a 4.5"flattop
it was an accurate load too
so ol Skeeter was on to something

Green Frog
06-22-2017, 10:33 AM
Which one for .44 Spl.? These would be for target loads using Unique, and launched out of a M-29.
Hunting with lead is no longer permitted in CA so these will be for fun as well as training for HD
Thanks!

The man who introduced me to the 44 Mag had a 4" Pre-Model 29 (4 screw) that he regularly fed his own cast 429421 bullets (old Ideal mould) over 6.5 gr of Unique (IIRC - it's been 40 years ago) to give a somewhat authoritative but still pleasant round to shoot. Come to think of it, I ought to make up a bunch of those and shoot in honor of old George! :cbpour:

Froggie

Lloyd Smale
06-23-2017, 05:51 AM
get yourself a rcbs 240 swcgc mold. Probably the overall most accurate bullet in all of my 44 specials and mags. Does well on game too. Another real good one is the 429244 and another is the 429215 which is probably my favorite 44 spec bullet. All of these are gas check designs so it costs a bit more to make them but there accuracy makes it well worth the cost of a gas check. Ive got lots of 44 molds LOTS. Now I can about allways find a plain based bullet that will shoot as well as these gas checked molds if I spend some serious time with load development. Bullets like the 245kt 250kt 429421 ect. But those three gas check bullets shoot well in all of my 44s with very little load workup. They work at plinking velocitys and they work at full tilt velocitys.