Ruger Fanatics Opinions Needed

[Lefty Red]

Finally got Jr into shooting! He is 13 and just never took an interest until now. Patience won out. It's funny, both of his sisters wanted to shoot Dad's BIG GUNs from 6 on. Oldest loved my 357 and was given a 3" GP100 for her 8th grade graduation! Middle Daughter got an OU 20ga for her high school graduation. Never saw such a natural wingshooter!

So he is already bored with his Rough Rider 22lr, but that is ok cause Dad needs a snake [emoji216] gun. Getting him a SW Victory since the Mark 4 recall stopped us from getting the Hunter version.

But we were at the range and he shot my SP101 2.25" with my DEWC reloads and really like it. Plus he likes revolvers, and that is pretty rare in this Call Of Duty generation.

So I'm thinking a 3" j Frame is the ticket. And since I have to order it, I'm wanting input on the SP101 vs LCRX in 3". He handled a SW Pro M60 the other day and liked it, but wasn't sold on it. I liked it, but would have to replace the sights for target shooting and that is just added expensive. Neither of us liked the stocked "Night Sights" on the M60. He also handled a SP101 with the 4" barrel but still liked the 3" version. Hasn't held the LCRX in the 3" version yet.

And before someone asks, no he doesn't like the way a 4" balances. Plus I would/could carry the 3"j Frame-ish snubbie when Jr gets tired of it and moved up to a 4" or longer. So I'm thinking ahead. :)

And it really doesn't matter if the SP101 is 357 and the LCRX is 38.

Lefty


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[Peregrine]

My opinion is you've got a heck of a family affair going. Treasure it. :)

[Lefty Red]

My opinion is you've got a heck of a family affair going. Treasure it. :)

I do!


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[contender1]

I own 4 SP-101's and 2 LCR's.
Two of my SP's are in 357. One is the 3". The other 2 are in 32 mag & 22 LR. Only the 22 LR has the 4" bbl.
My LCR's are in 38 spl & 9mm.
I also teach handgunning & have many years experience.
My first suggestion would be to find a friend or gun range where he can try each one out to see what HE prefers. But in general,, most of my students all seem to prefer shooting the SP-101's over the LCR's hands down.

[Boogieman]

I bought a 3" SP101 about 6 mo. ago. Did a light tune up, spring kit & polish. after 500+ rounds it has smoothed up well. It is small enough for ccw, heavy enough to handle 357mag. loads with reasonable recoil ,and loses only about 40fps. to my 4" Security 6. It handles every thing from shot loads to full 357mags.

[williamwaco]

Finally got Jr into shooting! He is 13 and just never took an interest until now. Patience won out. It's funny, both of his sisters wanted to shoot Dad's BIG GUNs from 6 on. Oldest loved my 357 and was given a 3" GP100 for her 8th grade graduation! Middle Daughter got an OU 20ga for her high school graduation. Never saw such a natural wingshooter!

So he is already bored with his Rough Rider 22lr, but that is ok cause Dad needs a snake [emoji216] gun. Getting him a SW Victory since the Mark 4 recall stopped us from getting the Hunter version.

But we were at the range and he shot my SP101 2.25" with my DEWC reloads and really like it. Plus he likes revolvers, and that is pretty rare in this Call Of Duty generation.

So I'm thinking a 3" j Frame is the ticket. And since I have to order it, I'm wanting input on the SP101 vs LCRX in 3". He handled a SW Pro M60 the other day and liked it, but wasn't sold on it. I liked it, but would have to replace the sights for target shooting and that is just added expensive. Neither of us liked the stocked "Night Sights" on the M60. He also handled a SP101 with the 4" barrel but still liked the 3" version. Hasn't held the LCRX in the 3" version yet.

And before someone asks, no he doesn't like the way a 4" balances. Plus I would/could carry the 3"j Frame-ish snubbie when Jr gets tired of it and moved up to a 4" or longer. So I'm thinking ahead. :)

And it really doesn't matter if the SP101 is 357 and the LCRX is 38.



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I have both. Love them both. The 3" J frame is 50 plus years old so it is a .38. It has a heavy barrel. The Ruger is the sp 101 in. 357 it is a joy to shoot even with hot loads. I would not enjoy a 357 J frame with hot loads. I have a feeling the Ruger will live longer with hot loads but with DEWC it is a total toss up.

[Lefty Red]

I own 4 SP-101's and 2 LCR's.
Two of my SP's are in 357. One is the 3". The other 2 are in 32 mag & 22 LR. Only the 22 LR has the 4" bbl.
My LCR's are in 38 spl & 9mm.
I also teach handgunning & have many years experience.
My first suggestion would be to find a friend or gun range where he can try each one out to see what HE prefers. But in general,, most of my students all seem to prefer shooting the SP-101's over the LCR's hands down.

It's my first intention, but finding a 3" LCRX is impossible around here! The only one I ever held was when they first came out and I thought they were dead awful ugly. Never seen one since.

The ONLY reason I'm even considering the LCRX is the better selection of grips they have now. It's went from three to five or six! LOL. Seriously, I had a 9mm LCR and couldn't make it through 2-3 rounds before the rest had bullet jump so bad it binds the cylinder. REALLY wanted to like that pistol! But wanting to give it another try in 38 and longer barrel. I love the trigger on the LCR, much smoother then on the Airweight j frames I have.

Lefty


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[Lefty Red]

I bought a 3" SP101 about 6 mo. ago. Did a light tune up, spring kit & polish. after 500+ rounds it has smoothed up well. It is small enough for ccw, heavy enough to handle 357mag. loads with reasonable recoil ,and loses only about 40fps. to my 4" Security 6. It handles every thing from shot loads to full 357mags.

I really like the SP101 in any flavor. I own a 38 with the 2.25" barrel. Never had to touch the trigger, was smoother (but heavy) from day one. It's lightened up from dry firing and shooting the past months. Got a Hi Viz fiber optic front sight and Compac grips on it. Handles +p+ loads better than I do.

Lefty


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[jmort]

I got my daughter a 3" LCRX as it was the only gun with which she could could easliy pull the trigger. The LCR triggers are so much better than any J Frame I have ever owned. 3 months and she can constitutional carry handguns at age 19 here in Missouri. That is a beautiful thing.

[Scharfschuetze]

Started my son with a 4" S&W Model 32 in 32 S&W. He ended up with and still has the 3" Model 60 in 357 calibre. Can't go wrong with either choice.

[Sasquatch-1]

Consider stepping up one size and look at the S&W K frames. The Mod 10/64 (blued/SS) is a little bigger then the J frame but you do get 6 shots as opposed to 5. I have owned both the 60 and the 64 and loved both of them. I have seen police turn ins in LGS's for a little over the $300.00 mark on the 64's w/2" barrels.

[Petrol & Powder]

I'm with Sasquatch-1, step up just slightly to the K-frame S&W and pick up a good used one. A 4" model 10, 15 or 64 would be good. Lots of available grips to fit the gun to the shooter, capable of great accuracy and a better allocation of funds.

I seriously doubt his interest in that a revolver is going to last. While the SP101 and LCR are both good guns, I think you're buying a temporary place holder at best. He's 13 and his interest will shift 20 more times before he's 15.

If it must be a Ruger, one of the longer barreled SP101's would be my pick. A little more muzzle forward weight, maybe a little more selection of available grips and nearly indestructible.

I'd put more money into ammo, hearing protection, glasses and quality time than I would put into the actual gun. At least early on. If he shows continued interest in shooting handguns, you can get that special gun later.

And good for you. Promoting responsible gun ownership, teaching shooting skills and spending quality time with your kids. That time is worth more than any piece of steel.

[w5pv]

I have a 10 year old grandson that I dream of the day he will want to start shooting,he has listened to his grandmother say how much she hates guns(her father accidentally himself but carried around a load of #6 shot for years)and this has brained washed him and he says he doesn't like to shoot guns.

[Lefty Red]

Would love for him to get a six shooter, but he likes the trim feel of the j frames. Plus we don't have a large selection of revolvers to choose from. Wish we did. And when he gets bored of it and hopefully goes to a 44spec BH/SAA, then I get it! And I would rather pack a five shooter than a six most days.

I think he likes the balance of the 3"/j Frame combo. Definitely not my first choice, but always worste ones.

Lefty


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[Tracy]

I have several K frames and like them, but disagree with the poster who recommended getting one instead of a Ruger. No further comment about that except to say that my choice for the stated purpose would be a 3" SP101. Nothing against the lcr either; I have one and like it a lot.

[str8wal]

I love my LCRx, but recoil can get a bit snappy with +P loadings and more than a few cylinders in a session can be too many for comfort. The weight of the SP would make for a more pleasureable shooting session for young hands with 38's and can work up to 357's over time, IMO.

[Sasquatch-1]

If you shoot at a range where there are a lot of members, take him with you and see what is out there. Ask around and I am sure that he will get offers to shoot everything form Mark series 22's on up through the big boys. This way he will get to see what he truly likes. Unfortunately, the majority of what I see are the plastic semiauto guns.

Just an example of the odd guns I saw this weekend were a Mauser Broomhandle Red 9, a P-38 with Nazi markings and a Ruger 460. I asked and was allowed to shoot the 460.

Guns I have been allowed to shoot that I would never be able to buy; an original S&W Mod 3 (break top Schofield type), a Mosen Nagent pistol, a Colt Anaconda, a 454 Casull and many guns that have come out of custom shops. Just ask when you have your son with you.


Would love for him to get a six shooter, but he likes the trim feel of the j frames. Plus we don't have a large selection of revolvers to choose from. Wish we did. And when he gets bored of it and hopefully goes to a 44spec BH/SAA, then I get it! And I would rather pack a five shooter than a six most days.

I think he likes the balance of the 3"/j Frame combo. Definitely not my first choice, but always worste ones.

[Lefty Red]

We don't have such luxuries as a large range with large amounts of people and different types of firearms. Nor do I have the disposable income to go and rent all different weapons and pay for the ammo.

He knows what he wants. Right now. And that is fine. I get it after he is done and wants to move on. :)


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[Sean357]

I vote the 3" Sp101. It's what I have. I really like shooting it and so does my small framed wife. The weight is perfect. It does excellent with 357 mid to upper 125 gr loaded with HS-6 and wadcutters with 231. It's a breeze with 38 +P also. And like you said, if he ends up moving on, you get it, but if not hes got a revolver that will last for life.

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[Three-Fifty-Seven]

6" ...

[jmort]

"... the LCR is a disposable as far as I'm concerned, yes, you may get 5,000+ rounds through it, but then what?"

It will keep shooting for another 5k + rounds and then some. It is well designed and engineered.

Why do people just make nonsense statements like it is a throw-away gun, 5k rounds and into the trash?
Why not just say, "I have no idea what I am talking about , but I will just say it in spite of not knowing a thing about the subject in question."
From a torture test:
"I had the opportunity to shoot an LCR that was
tested for endurance. More than 10,000 rounds of .38
Spl. + P had been fired through the gun. It didn’t look
or handle like a gun that had been torture tested or
worn out. Everything worked, it shot straight, and it still
locked up tight."

Now what I do know for a fact, is that I have owned three .357 magnum SP101s including a 3"
For me, my opinion, is that the SP101 is too light, for me to shoot full-on .357 loads and too heavy to be worth the 5 round limit. It is, in my opinion, having owned three of them, the worst of both worlds. Too heavy to be just a five round revolver and too light to shoot the heavy .357 loads.
All my LCRs and I have 6, have great triggers and are easy to conceal. The trigger blows the doors off the SP101. Just my opinion.

[retread]

I would consider a SP 101 in 327 Fed Magnum. He can use 32 longs, 32 H&Rs or the 327 Magnum.

[Three-Fifty-Seven]

.e! ;)

[jmort]

It was in the American Rifleman
I did not object to your opinions
You said the LCR was not built for long term use, it is throw away junk and will wear out
That is not supported by any facts

[Three-Fifty-Seven]

....?

[Petrol & Powder]

Would love for him to get a six shooter, but he likes the trim feel of the j frames. Plus we don't have a large selection of revolvers to choose from. Wish we did. And when he gets bored of it and hopefully goes to a 44spec BH/SAA, then I get it! And I would rather pack a five shooter than a six most days.

I think he likes the balance of the 3"/j Frame combo. Definitely not my first choice, but always worste ones.

Lefty


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So basically you're really picking the gun that you will ultimately end up with ?

[jmort]

"..do you have a LCR 357? Do you shoot magnums in it?"

Two
Loads are intended for a 17 ounce .357 revolver
170 grains at 1,000 fps

[FergusonTO35]

Lefty, since carry is not going to be an issue for this guy 'til he is 21 I would lean towards the SP-101. It's a little chunk of stainless that goes bang and will probably do better for high volume range use than the rather dainty J-frame would (nothing wrong with the J, just opinion). If he ever wants to get rid of it the SP-101 will still sell for 75-80% of the new price as long as it's in good shape. I would advise the 3" version as it has more velocity and sight radius, also the 3" tends to sell for more as a used gun.

[Lefty Red]

So basically you're really picking the gun that you will ultimately end up with ?

Yep! :)


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[Lefty Red]

"..do you have a LCR 357? Do you shoot magnums in it?"

Two
Loads are intended for a 17 ounce .357 revolver
170 grains at 1,000 fps

That will work!


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[Lefty Red]

Lefty, since carry is not going to be an issue for this guy 'til he is 21 I would lean towards the SP-101. It's a little chunk of stainless that goes bang and will probably do better for high volume range use than the rather dainty J-frame would (nothing wrong with the J, just opinion). If he ever wants to get rid of it the SP-101 will still sell for 75-80% of the new price as long as it's in good shape. I would advise the 3" version as it has more velocity and sight radius, also the 3" tends to sell for more as a used gun.

By the time Jr gets 21, I'm sure he will be corrupted and start shooting bottomfeeder. :)

I'm really leaning toward the 3" SP101. I was hoping the 3" LCRX was more appealing to me, but just can't warm up to it.

Lefty


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[Three-Fifty-Seven]

...6?

[pjames32]

The 60 and the 101 are both fairly heavy guns for their size and I think that is a good thing for a new shooter. I started my daughter on a K frame at age 8 and the larger frame size took some time for her to get used to. About that time she shot my 1911 45CP and that became her favorite.
Keep encouraging these young ones who like to shoot, please.

[Plate plinker]

Sp101 for sure.

[Leadmelter]

I would opt for a 38sp/357mag so it grows with the young man. When he grows up, he can learn shooting, reloading and casting for the cheapest caliber on the planet.
Leadmelter
MI

[Lefty Red]

Thought I had gotten the greatest find ever today! A SS Speed Six with a 3" barrel! But it had a "trigger job" to the point where I don't think it would have enough power to make primers go BOOM! And prices at $600, too much.

Lefty


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[Three-Fifty-Seven]

... ;)

[Rainier]

Lefty - FWIW my wife has mad love for her 3" SP 101. Its a dandy, will probably outlast us all and... as an added bonus, you can shoot full snot .357's and/or light .38's. I don't see how you can go wrong with it.

[modified5]

I don't have, nor have I shot the lcr.
I do have a 3 inch sp101 that I picked up for $300.
Both myself and my 10 yo son love shooting that gun.
I run 158 gr rnfp boolits through it at moderate velocities in the .38 and it is a great shooter.
It and my .44 c+b revolver are my sons favorite guns to shoot.
He hasn't shot any .357 out of it, but he handles the recoil just fine.