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dsh1106
06-14-2017, 08:33 PM
Anyone ever try the Hogdon and or LEE component data to build one of these loads?

I tried assembling the following:
- Rem Gun Club 2 3/4 hulls
- WAA12SL Wad
- 36 grs - HS6

Shell looks fine but will not chamber (without help - to large in diameter), anyone else have this problem? Is it the data or is it me?

Thanks
Scott

JBinMN
06-14-2017, 09:02 PM
I bought the mold a month or so ago & cast some pure lead slugs from it. About 40-50. I have not yet loaded any as I have been occupied with doing some load work ups for some other firearms.

I will try to do some this weekend & see how they work out. Maybe I can help out in some way. Although I am sure some others will be better at helping ya out when they come along.

Seems to me though that I remember some time back when I was looking up & researching on these, that someone was cutting the petals of the wad back so they did not "accordion" or fold over at the top.

Could that be a factor here?

I seem to also remember something about 7/16ths inch left at the top from slug to hull top for crimp( fold). Others roll crimped and I am not sure about how much shell has to be left for that.

Did ya fold crimp or roll crimp? Might make a difference also...

:)

P.s.- Thought of one other thing... could ya have compacted the powder,wad & load when you were crimping, bulging the hull?

Just thinking.. & trying to help out if I can...
:)

dsh1106
06-14-2017, 09:49 PM
I made two dummy rounds, one with a standard fold crimp and one with a roll crimp.

Both loads looked fine the OAL was 2.350ish, both rounds were tight clambering.

I just realized that the wad is the CLAY BUSTER replacement for the WAA12SL. Are these direct replacements?, or is this my problem?

rancher1913
06-14-2017, 10:57 PM
some of the wad petal are sloped in certain brands, if I recall I had to cut the petals compleatly off because those slugs are not designed to go in a shot cup. you need the layman "air rifle pellet" slug to use the shot cups.

Huntsman
06-15-2017, 08:03 AM
Here's what I have had luck with;
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?313561-Lee-Drive-Key-12-gauge-1oz-load-success!!

bbwhais
06-15-2017, 09:01 PM
I have loaded hundred of these slugs. If you are using new Winchester wads, some have ribs and the pettles are thicker at the bottom. I have done very well using WAA12 wads in Rem nitro cases and 49 gn Blue Dot. They fit in the gun and scream out the barrel. They sure do kick.

Moonie
06-15-2017, 09:38 PM
I made two dummy rounds, one with a standard fold crimp and one with a roll crimp.

Both loads looked fine the OAL was 2.350ish, both rounds were tight clambering.

I just realized that the wad is the CLAY BUSTER replacement for the WAA12SL. Are these direct replacements?, or is this my problem?

This is your problem, the clay busters have ribs inside the petals that cause exactly that problem

mac1911
06-16-2017, 12:51 PM
i found the remington and claybuster clones just dont work.
I use the gray winchester wads...

GrayTech
06-16-2017, 04:21 PM
Some Claybuster replacements have ribs in the petals, but you can overcome this by adding a ⅛ card under the slug, if it fits in the wad ok. It also helps to prevent the wad deforming too much into the cavities in the slug. Deforming the spring part of the wad by compressing too much during loading was mentioned by a prior poster, apart from bulging hulls, it can increase preasures.

Hogtamer
06-16-2017, 07:42 PM
Here's some testing I did with the Lyman 525.
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?315489-Testing-the-MP-Lyman-525

oops wrong thread....long week

rsrocket1
06-16-2017, 11:41 PM
I've had success with the Claybuster Lightning wad CB-4100-12
The 8 thin petals allow the 1 oz slug to fit in the Remington GC hull without bulging

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj96/rsrocket1/Shoot/9672AAC0-8EB4-4EE4-A72C-11EC4815ACB3_zpsqd7zxjix.jpg

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj96/rsrocket1/Shoot/FCFC17B5-5A0D-4072-828B-AA5595788740_zpsxqohggwg.jpg

I like the Lightning because I load at pretty low velocities (1200-1300 fps) and use data from 1 oz shot loads and get perfect crimps



If you want a larger charge of a slower powder, consider the Claybuster CB4118-12B (Windjammer) wad (the one on the right, the one on the left is a Claybuster WAA-12 clone with the rib that causes hull bulging.

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj96/rsrocket1/Shoot/5e4ae2fe-7fc6-45ea-a324-21e7e6900ded_zpsyj5nt1or.jpg

dsh1106
06-17-2017, 10:05 AM
I've had success with the Claybuster Lightning wad CB-4100-12
The 8 thin petals allow the 1 oz slug to fit in the Remington GC hull without bulging

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj96/rsrocket1/Shoot/9672AAC0-8EB4-4EE4-A72C-11EC4815ACB3_zpsqd7zxjix.jpg

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj96/rsrocket1/Shoot/FCFC17B5-5A0D-4072-828B-AA5595788740_zpsxqohggwg.jpg

I like the Lightning because I load at pretty low velocities (1200-1300 fps) and use data from 1 oz shot loads and get perfect crimps



If you want a larger charge of a slower powder, consider the Claybuster CB4118-12B (Windjammer) wad (the one on the right, the one on the left is a Claybuster WAA-12 clone with the rib that causes hull bulging.

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj96/rsrocket1/Shoot/5e4ae2fe-7fc6-45ea-a324-21e7e6900ded_zpsyj5nt1or.jpg


Awesome info !!! Thanks for the pictures.

Scott

Retumbo
06-22-2017, 09:40 PM
I use Win AA and Windjammer hulls. I cut my wads so the slug breaks the crimp.

http://i.imgur.com/DhuYuJQ.jpg

Huntsman
06-23-2017, 11:04 PM
I use Win AA and Windjammer hulls. I cut my wads so the slug breaks the crimp.

http://m.imgur.com/gallery/JhRVt

Excactly. That's the key thing. It also prevents the petals from folding over the nose of the slug causing irratic flight patterns.