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BlackoutBuilder
06-14-2017, 02:54 PM
Is there any reason I shouldnt load a Hornady InterLock Bullets 30-30 Winchester 150 gr. (link below) round in my 30-06 rem 700?

i saw this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZAyhv0xqUI were a guy had loaded some ammo backwards, and i saw a potential SD round, but wanted to ask around a bit before building one.

I was thinking the flat base would be more accurate, but would help to address the pressure issues he was having. Of course I would work up the load.


https://www.midwayusa.com/product/382697/hornady-interlock-bullets-30-30-winchester-308-diameter-150-grain-round-nose-box-of-100

popper
06-14-2017, 03:04 PM
a potential SD round Get a heavy soupcan/FN mould and use soft alloy. You probably only get one shot - against a 2 leg attacker.

JonB_in_Glencoe
06-14-2017, 03:17 PM
my first instinct, is there are better guns and better calibers for self-defense.
But, if you have your reasons to experiment with 30-06, then I agree with popper.

I'd think a 200gr boolit with a Flat nose, like the RCBS or NOE's clone of the RCBS.

197553

tazman
06-14-2017, 03:32 PM
Is there any reason I shouldnt load a Hornady InterLock Bullets 30-30 Winchester 150 gr. (link below) round in my 30-06 rem 700?
I was thinking the flat base would be more accurate, but would help to address the pressure issues he was having. Of course I would work up the load.


https://www.midwayusa.com/product/382697/hornady-interlock-bullets-30-30-winchester-308-diameter-150-grain-round-nose-box-of-100

The only advantage to loading bullets designed for 30-30 in a 30-06 is expansion at longer ranges. The 30-30 bullets are designed to expand at lower velocities than the ones for 30-06.
Theoretically, you would get better expansion at longer ranges with the 30-30 bullets.
Accuracy will vary by firearm and load of course.

williamwaco
06-14-2017, 03:36 PM
I would opine that in an '06 any round would be overkill. If you want to limit penetration try a varmint bullet like the Hornady VMax 110 grain.

gwpercle
06-14-2017, 04:08 PM
You saw it on U-Tube so it must be a good idea , go for it .
I doubt the need for a 30-06 Self Defense round is going to be great...but hey I was wrong about thinking no one would pay money for a bottle of water !
Gary

mdi
06-14-2017, 04:10 PM
If you wanted to load a 150 gr. RN designed for 30-30 velocities, it's OK. But you need to be aware that the 30-06 will produce higher velocities than those of a 30-30, and the lower velocity bullets would come apart, on the target when driven to 30-06 velocities. If you are handloading, then you can "control" the velocities for that bullet.

If handloading a bullet backwards was of any benefit, it would be well known and not just in a video by some nut on youtube. Just about every combination of "Bubba-ing" bullets and loads have been tried and so far there are very few, if any that have proved their worth...

jcren
06-14-2017, 07:01 PM
Take a note from Hornady themselves, their 308 tac round is loaded with the 125 grain varmint bullet to reduce overpenetration and colateral damage. I can vouch that this bullet makes an excellent reduced (around 2200 fps) deer round. At that low velocity it expands violently but usually exits a broadside shot.

BlackoutBuilder
06-14-2017, 08:00 PM
Hahaha, I see where you are coming from about using a 30-06 as an SD gun, but it's hardly my go to gun. ALL of my guns have the potential for being used as an SD weapon at some unforeseeable point, so I keep them all ready to rock. I wasn't thinking about the round being unable to deal with the velocity though, that is why I posted thread.

Thumbcocker
06-14-2017, 08:17 PM
Can you post a picture of the shoulder holster?:kidding:

CraigOK
06-14-2017, 11:00 PM
Take a note from Hornady themselves, their 308 tac round is loaded with the 125 grain varmint bullet to reduce overpenetration and colateral damage. I concur

beagle
06-14-2017, 11:02 PM
Back in the old days when the Army was using the M1, it was common practice to pull and reseat a 172 grain National Match bullet for use in the 06. Never did like the practice but GIs lacking the funds for commercial hunting components killed a lot of venison with them and fed a lot of kids when money was short./beagle

reddog81
06-15-2017, 12:57 AM
I'm willing to bet any 125 to 200 grain bullet truckin along at 2,000 to 2,700 FPS will work sufficiently well for self defense assuming it is accurate.

rondog
06-15-2017, 03:07 AM
.30-06 for self defense? Expecting a horde of Nazis to invade your house or what? I wouldn't even consider it. Only for 100+ yard applications, bullets seated normally. As in M1 Garand and M2 ball.....

Lloyd Smale
06-15-2017, 06:00 AM
yup a 3030 bullet at 06 velocitys is going to be a bomb when it hits. 3030s are one of the only rounds that have bullets specifically designed for it. the jackets are thinner then they are on other 30 cal bullets so they will reliably expand at under 2000 fps. Push it to near 3000 and its going to do some damage.

BlackoutBuilder
06-15-2017, 08:13 AM
Nazis ?!? Shoot, I been preparing for zombies.. Now what am I gonna do?

centershot
06-16-2017, 07:56 AM
Nazis ?!? Shoot, I been preparing for zombies.. Now what am I gonna do?

"Adapt! Improvise! Overcome!"

USMC

reddog81
07-23-2017, 01:41 AM
The OP never mentioned using it as a SD round.

I'm assuming your being sarcastic... right? It's the title of the thread and mentioned in the first post.

runfiverun
07-24-2017, 01:48 AM
the great thing about the 30-06 is you can slow it down to 30-30 speeds, and use their thinner bullets or sst's or whatever.

RU shooter
07-24-2017, 08:53 AM
First off why even mess with using a light bullet or a 30/30 fn or rn ? just leave it as is with the standard 150/165 gr soft point at full speed ! Ever see what they do to deer ! Same thing gonna happen to a human target . But if your sitting on a pile of 30/30 bullets sure load them up with a saftely reduced load to 30/30 speeds its killed a pile of animals over the years too .

scattershot
07-24-2017, 10:20 AM
Nazis ?!? Shoot, I been preparing for zombies.. Now what am I gonna do?

Paint 'em green, you'll be fine.

tazman
07-24-2017, 10:46 AM
I once loaded some Nosler boat tail bullets that were designed for the 30-30 in my 30-06 at full power. I tested them for expansion. As you would expect, they pretty much blew up at short range.
Beyond 200 yards, when they had slowed to 30-30 velocities, they performed normally.
Accuracy was fine for hunting purposes.

mdi
07-24-2017, 12:33 PM
Hmmm. My self defense 30-06 (actually a self offence) is my Garand...:mrgreen:

NoAngel
07-24-2017, 12:38 PM
I would use a 125g frangible bullet just so you don't run the risk of killing the guy 3 blocks down the road.
Unless you live on a big farm with lots of space and trees.

308Jeff
07-24-2017, 01:21 PM
justneed to use a low weight varmit slug in .308

hornady half jacket 110 grain soft point for m1 carbine would be ideal.

so would perhaps the traditional varmint bullets in 110-125 weight

That's the route I chose. 125gr Speer TNTs

Patrick L
07-25-2017, 06:06 PM
I recall an old Dean Grennel story from one of his books where he did just this, but for hunting ammo.

As I recall, he was talking about the more casual days when people would reload for others who didn't. Apparently he reloaded some .30-06 rounds for a friend to hunt mountain lion with. BTW, the friend wanted a lion to have mounted by a taxidermist.

Being somewhat ignorant of such things (again this was supposedly in Dean's more neophyte days) he simply loaded "150 grain bullets." Turns out they were 150 FPs intended for a .30-30. Apparently blew the cat to pieces (or at least too many pieces to mount.)

I loved Dean, and sorely miss him and his writing!