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Dutchman
07-21-2008, 02:39 AM
Dude was walking around the Indianapolis gunshow carrying two 1891 Argentine rifles. What caught my eye between all the legs of people walking around this guy was the fiddleback walnut. It doesn't show up as well in the photo as it does in person. I asked how much. He said $100 each. Its 100% matching C-prefix made in 1892. With Lyman 311299 and 12 grs Unique it'll shoot clover leafs at 50 yds off the bench. I sold the second rifle for $150 within 10 minutes and sold another at home that was unfired/unissued in grease for $350. Kept this one as the *shooter*.

Swedish Mausers aren't the only Mausers I like :drinks:.

http://images38.fotki.com/v1221/photos/2/28344/157842/ArgentineMauser1891-vi.jpg

This 1905 Carl Gustaf m/96 isn't perfect but its very close. Never rebuilt, never messed with. 100% original & matching. Its a gorgeous rifle. I've never fired it and never will.
http://images39.fotki.com/v1228/photos/2/28344/157842/rifle2-vi.jpg

This was the 2nd of two Garands I had. Traded to a friend who wanted it because it was rebuilt at Letterkenny in Pennsylvania. I have only one other Garand, a November, 1941 pre-Pearl Harbor Springfield that was rebuilt in 1965. Its very nice.
http://images6.fotki.com/v78/photos/2/28344/157842/g1-vi.jpg

I've been around a few Garands [smilie=1:.
http://images16.fotki.com/v289/photos/2/28344/157842/h007-vi.jpg

Dutchman
07-21-2008, 03:05 AM
I jumped on the CMP bandwagon real fast when the 1903 Springfields were first offered. This is a 1918 double heattreat Springfield made in July, 1918 with a C stock.

It likes 311299 and 311284. My time with Springfields goes to 1968 with 394506 made in December, 1909. It was cherry. $35.
http://images29.fotki.com/v1011/photos/2/28344/157842/c1-vi.jpg

Another rifle found at the Indianapolis gunshow for $140. Schmidt-Rubin 1896/11. If you've only handled and shot the K31 you're missing out on one of the world's best rifles. This thing handles so much better than the K31 and has a much smoother action than the K31. This one came from Lucern, Switzerland. I've not worked with it alot yet with cast bullets but it does ok with 311299 and 12 grs Unique.
http://images40.fotki.com/v1250/photos/2/28344/157842/yr24-vi.jpg

Ok, so I have some Mosin-Nagants. Maybe 6 or 7. This one is a Finn m/1891 made in 1942 with a B-marked barrel. B = Belgium made barrel and it was unfired when I got it. Hang tag, new shiney sharp bore. I would never have believed a Mosin-Nagant could do it but this puppy can put 5 rds of 311299 into one hole at 50 yds off the bench. For some strange reason I don't care to understand I've come to have an emotional attachment to this rifle. Its so long and slender without a handguard (never had one). Has the original Russian stock.
http://images106.fotki.com/v494/photos/2/28344/157842/yr31-vi.jpg

The other Mosins can't come close to the rifle this one is...
http://images41.fotki.com/v1246/photos/2/28344/157842/yr32-vi.jpg

Ok, enough mushy Mosin crap...

My only K98k a de-nazified Yugoized former Mauser Oberndorf 1940 dated. The 1 and 0 are barely discernable making the date of mfg 1940. The Waffenampts identify the mfg as Mauser. This is a very accurate rifle that I really like.
http://images41.fotki.com/v1254/photos/2/28344/2331422/y1-1-vi.jpg

Did I do a lousy job staining that beech handguard or what?
This is a Czech Persian 1898/22. It was made in 1923. The bore has a fair amount of wear. This one will probably go bye bye. I do have a cherry Persian 98/29 but don't have any photos of it yet.
http://images38.fotki.com/v1223/photos/2/28344/2331422/t1-vi.jpg

That's not all, just all for now.
Dutch

EMC45
07-21-2008, 05:20 AM
Keep 'em coming! Nice guns!

scrapcan
07-21-2008, 10:16 AM
More things to drool over and wish for. I too have a 98/22 that is in similar shape as yours, I have mixed emotions and frequently think about sending down the road, then I think even the ugly ones need a home.

Keep the pictures flowing.

Tumtatty
07-21-2008, 10:32 AM
I collect WWII rifles.

http://www.gracekernersville.org/ebay/yukon_rifles.jpg

http://www.gracekernersville.org/ebay/yukon_k98b.jpg


Oh and I have one Swede (which Dutchman informed me [through Befus] that it was an M38b rather than an M/96
http://www.gracekernersville.org/ebay/swede1.jpg

I cast boolits for every one of these babies. My favorite to shoot...The Garand followed by the Enfield.

garandsrus
07-21-2008, 06:18 PM
Dutchman,

Nice rifles... Here's one a friend has that I would like to get my hands on:

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m245/johntlarson/M1D.jpg

It a M1D still in the wrapper with all the "stuff" that came with it, also still in the wrapper. The wrapper is slit so that they could verify the serial numbers.

John

RayinNH
07-21-2008, 07:04 PM
Those are beautiful Dutchman. I particularly like the Argentine and Swede Mausers. I don't have either one yet, but I keep looking for a good one. That's a good looking range you have in the background of photos 6 and 7...Ray

Buckshot
07-22-2008, 03:06 AM
...............Very nice bunch of fine rifles! Without a doubt my favorite is the M91 Argentines.

..............Buckshot

Dutchman
07-28-2008, 07:01 AM
Those are beautiful Dutchman. I particularly like the Argentine and Swede Mausers. I don't have either one yet, but I keep looking for a good one. That's a good looking range you have in the background of photos 6 and 7...Ray

You know how long you can wait for a good one to come along?

Forever.

Milsurp aren't cheap any more. They use to be very reasonable to buy one a month or a couple a month. Now you're lucky if you can afford one every six months. I'd never pay what Swede m/96 are bringing now. I paid $250 for that nice one above in this thread and it killed me to do that. I'd wager I can get $650+ for it today. That's insane. But if you want a nice one, really a nice one, you need to have the bucks in your pocket and be willing to whip them out in a heartbeat and spread those bucks across the counter in a gunshop when you find that nice one. You'll forget the money when you walk out of the store. A good rifle is worth laying down good bucks for. Sometimes we get deals and sometimes you pay through the nose. In the end it all balances out so just decide now to pay the bucks when you find a nice one. Life is too short to play the game about only buying guns when you can get a deal on it. Some guys are like that.

1891 Argentine rifles aren't hard to find in really nice condition. They get disrespect because of the magazine and ground crest, which most 91 rifles will have. Not all but most. I have a nice 91 carbine, too, but it won't shoot like the rifle. Not even close. Lots of chopped sporter 91 rifles from Monkey Ward days. Hold out for a nice full as-issued 91 rifle that's 100% matching. Shouldn't cost more than $200-250. Worth every penney. Since the Colin Webster book on Argentine rifles came out we've learned so much more about them, many more details including the names of the ships they came to Argentina on from Germany and the dates of production and delivery. Its a $75 book but worth it if you're into Mausers. So is Ludwig Olsen's Mauser Bolt Rifles.

The range is just north of town a couple miles. Private range $20 a year and a locked gate. Usually there's nobody there during the week when I go. Its real nice and quiet until I start shooting. Its an old range with dilapidated benches and cover but at least it *is* covered. Gets hot here.

Dutch

Dutchman
07-28-2008, 07:09 AM
Dutchman,

Nice rifles... Here's one a friend has that I would like to get my hands on:

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m245/johntlarson/M1D.jpg

It a M1D still in the wrapper with all the "stuff" that came with it, also still in the wrapper. The wrapper is slit so that they could verify the serial numbers.

John

I like Garands but I don't worship at the alter like some :-D. I'm a Mauser man.

In about 1986-87 is when the Israeli M1D were in-store at Sherwood in Northridge, Calif. $695. Pretty nice, too, but not cherry like new-in-wrapper. I liked $60 Mausers so $695 was like a gazillion bucks. I'd go down the street from Sherwood to another gunshop that had a couple racks of Swede m/96 for $60 and I'd peak at all of them one at a time. That's what I did on my lunch hour when I w*rked in the Valley back then. I did buy one of the Israeli M1 carbines for $169. Quality Hardware fresh rebuild. Never got emotional about carbines, either. Toy guns. For wimmin & children.

Dutch

Freightman
07-28-2008, 09:59 AM
Here is a Danish M1867 love this rifle, the other is a 96/38 Swede.

dromia
07-28-2008, 05:39 PM
A very accurate .22" training rifle conversion by AG Parker in 1915.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/adamsutherland/22%20Patt%2014%20No2%20Rifle/ForSale1.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/adamsutherland/22%20Patt%2014%20No2%20Rifle/ForSale4.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/adamsutherland/22%20Patt%2014%20No2%20Rifle/ForSale3.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/adamsutherland/22%20Patt%2014%20No2%20Rifle/ForSale2.jpg


The bolt face is ground for the Parker Hiscock magazine and I have one to go with it.

This rifle currently carries a contemporary Cooey sight making it eligible for Classic Class in the HARC Miniature Rifle Leagues.

Its collected the odd gong in its time. :-D

C1PNR
08-02-2008, 05:45 PM
Dutch and manleyjt,

If either of you really do decide to send your 98/22 down the road, please keep me in mind. That particular model is the one I'm looking for and just not finding.

Dutch, those are some really nice looking rifles!! I guess I need to get a camera that will take decent pictures of some of mine. They aren't as good looking, but they are mine.:roll:

pumpguy
08-02-2008, 08:10 PM
I have to agree with you about the 96/11, Dutchman. I don't usually like milsurps, but I bought a 96/11 on a whim. I thought it was a K-31. My first trip to the range, I put 10 shots into about 2 1/2". I have had the opportunity to buy lots of milsurps that don't interest me, but, I think I will keep the 96/11.

LIMPINGJ
08-03-2008, 09:31 AM
Dutchman tht 91 is the best one I have seen. I have been looking for a nice one that has not had crest ground for a long time, if I ever find one hope I can afford it. I sure wish I could have got the one in the grease you sold.