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mblack
06-01-2017, 10:17 AM
I want to get a lube sizer and I need to know if I really need a heater?
I was thinking I could buy a used lyman or rcbs on ebay for not much money ($50. or so)

Right now I am tumble lubing with 45/45/10 and sizing with lee dies.

gwpercle
06-01-2017, 12:29 PM
You will not need a heater if you use soft lubes . These are designed to flow at normal room temperatures.
A heater will be needed if you want to use hard lubes , these need heat to melt and flow into the lube grooves , they harden and are not as sticky as some soft lubes.
I have always used the soft lubes that require no heat. I have recovered many fired boolits with hard lube still in the bullet lube groove , I want it left in the barrel.
There are many ways to warm a lube/sizer that doesn't have a heater. Heat lamps , hair dryer , electric iron , on cold days I warm mine with an adjustable shop lamp and 250 watt lamp.
Read the lube description before buying , they will state if a heater is required. The stuff I use is Lithium Grease (1 part) and beeswax (3 parts). Referred to as Lithi-Bee lubricant.
I still believe soft lubes work better.
Gary

HP9MM
06-01-2017, 12:33 PM
I like LBT Soft Blue.

JonB_in_Glencoe
06-01-2017, 12:41 PM
Some lubes "need" a heater.
some lubes can be used without a heater, although if the room is cold (60º or colder), then a heater sure helps things along.

I have my lubesizers mounted on a Steel plate. I put a 200W automotive magnetic engine heater when I want heat. A small sized clothes iron (from the thrift store) works well also.

dragon813gt
06-01-2017, 01:02 PM
Go here: http://www.lsstuff.com/store/

Read the descriptions as they tell you if they need heat or not. I've found that 2500+ needs heat when it's cold out. My equipment is in an unconditioned garage.

2500+ will cover all the bases. Carnauba Red works well but requires a heater. Lots of people like BAC for pistols. I haven't gotten around to trying Carnauba Blue yet but I have it. Their lubes flat out work and don't break the bank.

pjames32
06-01-2017, 01:19 PM
I use Carnauba red for most of mine with heat. 50/50 for my 45-70 with no heat.
lss stuff is the place to buy and they will send you samples to try.

TexasGrunt
06-01-2017, 03:02 PM
I want to get a lube sizer and I need to know if I really need a heater?
I was thinking I could buy a used lyman or rcbs on ebay for not much money ($50. or so)

Right now I am tumble lubing with 45/45/10 and sizing with lee dies.

Good luck with that. Most of them are going for close to double that.

GOPHER SLAYER
06-01-2017, 03:33 PM
I wouldn't think you would need a lube heater since you live I Florida. I live in Southern California and I don't use one. If it does get a little cool I just point my heat gun on it or a view minutes.

mblack
06-01-2017, 04:04 PM
I do all my reloading in the AC except casting of course.

mblack
06-01-2017, 04:08 PM
I wasn't expecting so many reply's in such a short amount of time. thanks everyone

mblack
06-01-2017, 04:09 PM
Good luck with that. Most of them are going for close to double that.

Ya after looking again, I am not sure where I got $50 from?

.455 Webley
06-01-2017, 04:16 PM
Keep your eyes out. I got mind at an auction for 15 bucks with a .429 die and top punch in it. I lube out side on warm days and it works like a charm. Are you shooting mostly rifle or pistol?

mblack
06-02-2017, 10:51 AM
Keep your eyes out. I got mind at an auction for 15 bucks with a .429 die and top punch in it. I lube out side on warm days and it works like a charm. Are you shooting mostly rifle or pistol?

I shoot mostly pistol 9mm 38sp 357 45acp. Soon I want to start reloading .223 and .308

gwpercle
06-02-2017, 12:49 PM
Ya after looking again, I am not sure where I got $50 from?

I bought a Lyman 450 about 1972 , I thought it was terribly expensive then , but it's one of the best , most used , labor saving and least messy ways to size/lube a boolit. I don't regret spending the money and would buy another in a heart beat , reloading gear never get cheaper ...trust me !

RMII
06-02-2017, 02:03 PM
i bought a bunch of Tac 1 & Tac X from Randyrat on this site. I live in NJ and in the winter I have to use a heater until it gets over 65 deg.

Jack Stanley
06-02-2017, 07:16 PM
With air conditioning having a heater is a good idea , even if you just use it to get things moving . That's what I do with mine , lubes like 50/50 Alox the heater is on briefly hard lube get more time .

Jack

lotech
06-06-2017, 08:53 AM
I work in my garage, so need heat even with soft half & half lube on cooler days. I've tried so many lubes over the years, I now use only two: anyone's half & half and LBT Soft (even if it's not really very soft).

mblack
06-06-2017, 08:54 PM
I work in my garage, so need heat even with soft half & half lube on cooler days. I've tried so many lubes over the years, I now use only two: anyone's half & half and LBT Soft (even if it's not really very soft).

what state are you in. thanks everyone for all the great info

lotech
06-07-2017, 07:11 AM
Texas

randyrat
06-07-2017, 07:17 AM
i bought a bunch of Tac 1 & Tac X from Randyrat on this site. I live in NJ and in the winter I have to use a heater until it gets over 65 deg.
For a soft lube= TAC 1 For a Harder lube TAC X
Find it right here;
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?131679-Tac-1-tac-x-mold-lube

HATCH
06-07-2017, 08:52 AM
To be totally honest with you, lubing boolits are going to be a thing of the past.

Coatings seem to be the way to go for most people now days.

I do lube some boolits still and I use Magma Lube sticks (green but it doesn't matter as they are all the same)

dragon813gt
06-07-2017, 11:27 AM
To be totally honest with you, lubing boolits are going to be a thing of the past.

Will it? There are many like me that don't coat for a myriad of reasons. There are no long term studies on barrel wear. And the accuracy isn't there w/ rifles yet. A lot has to be done to get there compared to traditional lube. I'm not knocking coatings. They just haven't been fully worked out.

gwpercle
06-07-2017, 12:57 PM
I tend to live in the past, so I'll stick with my 450 and Lithi-Bee .

ShooterAZ
06-07-2017, 01:21 PM
To be totally honest with you, lubing boolits are going to be a thing of the past.

Not for me either, I will continue lube-sizing mine. No desire to take up powder coating, now or ever. BAC is a wonderful lube for pistols, and works well for me in most of my rifles as well. It does not need a heater.

DHDeal
06-07-2017, 02:10 PM
You may be able to find a used lube sizer cheap, but you better be watching the forums and be ready to jump on one as soon as it pops up. There are many that will buy another even though they have 2 or 3 already. I bet they are like molds, in that they just show up a guy's house somehow.

Anyway, I too have found I needed more than one as changing out dies got to be a pain and those fine threads on the RCBS Lube a Matic seem to be easy to bugger up if you are ham fisted. At least that was my excuse to buy another. Now where is that cheap Star sizer I'm looking for?

There are many good lubes available (too many really) so I just picked one and went with it. Until I found another....... That's the fun of the hunt for the perfect anything, you are never done testing. All kidding aside, try White Label or Randy Rat's lubes from this site. I'm personally using White Label Carnuba Blue right now. Not as sticky as their BAC and works well without a heater.

Jack Stanley
06-07-2017, 09:55 PM
I already had a Star when I bought my second and already had an RCBS when I decided I needed another . Those and the Lee push through dies on an old Pacific 007 press seem to fit me just fine .

Slowly I think I'm getting my lube needs worked out to very few selections .

Jack

Iowa Fox
06-07-2017, 11:05 PM
Good luck with that. Most of them are going for close to double that.

A few months ago I purchased a nice 450 at the local gun show for $40 with a 358 die & 429 top punch. No rust and I don't think it saw much use but it was a dirty gummy mess. It cleaned right up and original paint looks good.

The deals are out there but usually pop up when your not looking.

Oklahoma Rebel
09-11-2017, 06:47 PM
DHdeal, what calibers/ velocities do you use carauba blue on? I am trying to deecide what I want to use for a 9.3X62 at 2,000-2,200fps. so far blue is looking good, I don't have a heater by the way.

randyrat
09-11-2017, 07:49 PM
I use regular lube, of course, I sell TAC 1 and TAC X.. I found the accuracy in a 1911 that is tough to match with tumble lubing or anything else but regular lube..So for shooting tin cans and blasting fun tumble lubing or powder coating is fine.

I use a heat gun with my lube sizer just to make it easier

claude
09-12-2017, 06:34 AM
I use TAC-1 for everything I shoot, all under 2200fps, works for me. Frankly, the powder coating just isn't going to happen in my little archaic world. Different strokes I suppose.

DHDeal
09-12-2017, 10:49 AM
DHdeal, what calibers/ velocities do you use carauba blue on? I am trying to deecide what I want to use for a 9.3X62 at 2,000-2,200fps. so far blue is looking good, I don't have a heater by the way.

The only rifles I shoot cast bullets out of are my BPCR's and any thing other than DGL need not apply. Even then, I mostly shoot PP bullets now out of them.

I use the Carnuba Blue out of revolvers and tend to stay under 1350 fps or so. My revolvers don't lead much so that isn't a real concern. What I have noticed is after the first shot from a clean barrel, every succeeding shot is into the group until I'm done.

lablover
09-12-2017, 06:25 PM
Randy, What lube are you using for that great 1911 accuracy. Thats all I load and cast for...for now. :)

aarolar
09-12-2017, 07:27 PM
Not for me either, I will continue lube-sizing mine. No desire to take up powder coating, now or ever. BAC is a wonderful lube for pistols, and works well for me in most of my rifles as well. It does not need a heater.Put me in this group I just can't get into coating to me lead boolits should have lube in the grooves.

Just keep your eye open and have the cash on hand eventually a deal will come by. I use soft lubes for everything so far but I don't load anything unusual and no lube heater.

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KenT7021
09-22-2017, 05:44 PM
There are several Lyman 45 and 450 lube sizers currently on eBay at decent prices.

gwpercle
09-22-2017, 06:48 PM
I hope all is well with mblack, his location is/was Ocala , Florida , right in the path of Irma, in the middle of the state.
Our last good hurricane left us without power, land line phone and computer service for two weeks.
The phone, cable tv and computer ( we bundled) was the very last thing to get restored. It was lying on the ground , it used to be on a pole, but when the trees went down they took down several poles. The electrical men did the poles and electrical lines but the phone, computer and cable tv wasn't theirs
My wife flagged down a truck with cable workers , she cried , talked real nice to them , showed them our downed line and gave them all cold water and cold beer for later , they had us up and running in 3-4 hours.
It's amazing what a woman can accomplish !
Gary

randyrat
09-23-2017, 07:52 PM
Randy, What lube are you using for that great 1911 accuracy. Thats all I load and cast for...for now. :)
I use TAC 1 and found the accuracy to be 2" difference between tumble lubing and my lube at 75'...Some would go nuts over 2" of extra accuracy and I need everything i can get so I am not changing

lablover
09-24-2017, 07:33 AM
I use TAC 1 and found the accuracy to be 2" difference between tumble lubing and my lube at 75'...Some would go nuts over 2" of extra accuracy and I need everything i can get so I am not changing

I dont suppose you send out samples? Would love to try it