Anyone built a bolt action 30-30?

[rockrat]

Maybe use a regular .473" bolt face and just trim the rims of the 30-30 to fit. How did it perform?? Been thinking of building one.

[tdoyka]

i'd try a savage 340 or sears 101 in 30-30.

you won't have to trim cases. followers i'm not sure about.

i have a 340 in 30-30 and i like it alot. i've never tried to accurize it, but it will go 1 1/2" at 100 yards(5 shots).

[richhodg66]

Or find a 788.

I had a 788 and much as I like the 788s, I liked the Savage 340 better. Not a tack driver, but consistently pretty good with cast (never shot a jacketed round through it) and seemed a handier, better hunting rifle.

Seems like it would be easy to build on a Mauser or similar if you didn't have to worry about it feeding from a magazine.

[Harter66]

I like the 340 also , although mine is a 325C . 196? WW and Super X shot 2" getting comfortable with the peep sight . Several loads have shot much smaller than that .

[Outpost75]

Had a Winchester 54, Remington 788, Savage 340. All shot well, the Remington 788 most accurate of the three.

[rockrat]

Had a 788 and a 340 over the years. Thought I might try something a bit different

[country gent]

A bolt action 30-30 on a savage action would not be to hard to do as the bolt faces are replaceable and barrels easily changed. Another interesting thought would be a martini action or high wall action for a single shot 30-30. Theres a lot of ways to "skin this cat" but the savage action would be fairly simple conversion. Some bolt actions are available in 30-30 in factory rifles also, Its just looking for them. I think reworking a bolt face would be easier as its a one time thing. Brass mods are a forever change thayt has to be done on all brass and limits use of factory ammo in a bind

[tdoyka]

Had a 788 and a 340 over the years. Thought I might try something a bit different

if you want something different, go with tc contender. a g2 with with a MGM 30-30 barrel (16 1/4 - 27" barrel) and high plains gunstock is what you'll need.

[Peregrine]

Out of genuine curiosity, why are you considering doing so in the first place?

[Texas by God]

A few here have built them-myself included. I love my 1926 Spanish 93 Mauser 30-30.
I put it together to see if I could, because the 7x57 barrel was toast, and because I love the cartridge.
It put 3 Rem 150gr corelokts into an inch at 100 yds today.
Best, Thomas.

[rockrat]

Why, to see how it performs. What kind of accuracy and velocity. Have a Douglas 30 cal barrel blank just sitting on my shelf, forlorn and unused. Also other 30 cal barrels I have picked up over the years. Maybe a Savage F class 308 barrel cut down and rethreaded.
Have a 30-30 reamer, have a lathe. Make up a bull barrel or a varmint weight barrel more than likely, 28" maybe, maybe bit longer.
Why not!!

Took a 308 rem. varmint barrel, cut off the chamber, rethreaded for Savage action and chambered to 7.62 x 39. Shoots fairly well with the ball ammo I use in it. Made it up, just because.

Too many things I think up, too little time:)

[MT Gianni]

A few here have built them-myself included. I love my 1926 Spanish 93 Mauser 30-30.
I put it together to see if I could, because the 7x57 barrel was toast, and because I love the cartridge.
It put 3 Rem 150gr corelokts into an inch at 100 yds today.
Best, Thomas.

What did you do to modify the bolt head? Is it still controlled feed from the magazine?

[Texas by God]

I used a rotary file in a drill press to open up the bolt face, and I thinned the extractor on the inside lip for the thicker rim. I also reshaped the face of the claw- cut and try till the runds fed smoothly(controlled feed). I Installed a "rim stop screw" on the follower to keep the first round in place while you stack the rims of rounds #2&3. Three rounds only in the mag works great. Four is asking for trouble. I'm not sure why and don't care but I think the case taper begins to matter at round four. Radically flat point boolits can be a problem but small meplat and RN designs work great. It is a fun project that luckily worked out great.
Best, Thomas.

[MT Chambers]

You'd be better off chambering the .30/30 in a single shot, no magazine/rim concerns.

[marlinman93]

if you want something different, go with tc contender. a g2 with with a MGM 30-30 barrel (16 1/4 - 27" barrel) and high plains gunstock is what you'll need.

No offense meant, but what's different about a TC Contender? Pretty common compared to almost any bolt action .30-30.

[oldblinddog]

You'd be better off chambering the .30/30 in a single shot, no magazine/rim concerns.

Where's the fun in that? Mausers are cool.

[rondog]

My brother Dave has a bolt-action .30-30, I bet he hasn't fired it in 45 years.

[tdoyka]

No offense meant, but what's different about a TC Contender? Pretty common compared to almost any bolt action .30-30.

i don't know, to tell you the truth. weight? pointability? contender having more barrel length than a bolt gun? i already have a win. m94 and savage 340 in 30-30. they both are open sight and they both go 1 1/2"+/- at 100 yards. i know of a few guys that go to the contender(30-30) and i only knew a guy that did a 30-30 MGM contender barrel(i think it was 22", but i'm not sure). i've only seen pictures of what it can do, 1/2" at 100 yards(5 shots) makes it boringly accurate. MGM sure makes them accurate!

i use a tc encore with 20 vartarg, 6.5 creedmoor, 444 marlin and soon to be a 500 linebaugh, all of them are MGM. they are (500L i don't have, yet;)) "boringly accurate" . every gun goes 1/2" at 100 yards(5 shots), even the 444 marlin.

[WALLNUTT]

A Hiwall in 30-30 can be a great shooter. As Mount Chambers stated"no magazine/rim concerns". Breach seat or fixed ammo.

[marlinman93]

i don't know, to tell you the truth. weight? pointability? contender having more barrel length than a bolt gun? i already have a win. m94 and savage 340 in 30-30. they both are open sight and they both go 1 1/2"+/- at 100 yards. i know of a few guys that go to the contender(30-30) and i only knew a guy that did a 30-30 MGM contender barrel(i think it was 22", but i'm not sure). i've only seen pictures of what it can do, 1/2" at 100 yards(5 shots) makes it boringly accurate. MGM sure makes them accurate!

i use a tc encore with 20 vartarg, 6.5 creedmoor, 444 marlin and soon to be a 500 linebaugh, all of them are MGM. they are (500L i don't have, yet;)) "boringly accurate" . every gun goes 1/2" at 100 yards(5 shots), even the 444 marlin.

I agree with all your points, but don't think that makes a Contender "different". Just makes it a great gun. Different is something most people don't have. Lots of Contenders out there.

[tdoyka]

I agree with all your points, but don't think that makes a Contender "different". Just makes it a great gun. Different is something most people don't have. Lots of Contenders out there.


[smilie=l:[smilie=l:[smilie=l: yes, there are a few out there!!!

[gnoahhh]

I'm gonna be buried with my Winchester 54 .30-30. 'Nuff said.

[nekshot]

I have a savage 340 in 30-30 and some mauser 98 in 30-30 that I rebarreled but I never built a bolt action.

[bob208]

a cheap action to use would be the muslin 91-30 or even a british enfield.

[Hickok]

I would like to set up a Rem. 700 short action in .308 x 1.5". Bet it would be a good cast boolit cartridge.

[MT Chambers]

A Hiwall in 30-30 can be a great shooter. As Mount Chambers stated"no magazine/rim concerns". Breach seat or fixed ammo. It's not Mount Chambers.....It's M.T. Chambers, as in "empty chambers"........get it.....I'll spell it all out when I have time.

[firebyprolong]

I built one up on a # 1 mk 3 enfeild just for grins. Had to add new feed lips to the mag to get it to feed but the bolt face and extractor work just fine with 30-30 as is. It's a fun little gun. It was a lamp when I bought it at a garage sale for 20$. The rifle had been bubbaed long ago then the chamber drilled to pass the cord. now it's a dedicated cast bullet gun and damn fast too.

[oldblinddog]

A Hiwall in 30-30 can be a great shooter. As Mount Chambers stated"no magazine/rim concerns". Breach seat or fixed ammo.

Now a High Wall would be cool too.

[Fishman]

It's not Mount Chambers.....It's M.T. Chambers, as in "empty chambers"........get it.....I'll spell it all out when I have time.

Aw heck, I always read it as "Montana Chambers". Funny how the obvious sometimes isn't.

[retread]

If a Enfield would work it seems to me a 30-40 Krag with the side gate would eliminate the feed problem. Anyone heard of doing this?

[colonelsanders]

I building one around an 1891 Argentine Mauser. I will document the build in special projects when I am done.

[winchester 71]

I have been shooting cast in a stainless contender for the last 10 years...........every thing from 311316, lee
tumble lube 90 gr to ranch dog 175 Fp............buckshot, 31141 and 3118......shoots them all great and this is the ultimate woods walker rifle, super light, extremely accurate and if need be shoots 180 gr Hornady really well and is serious about blowing holes in stuff...............

[WALLNUTT]

Excuse me Mr Chambers

[Texas by God]

I built one up on a # 1 mk 3 enfeild just for grins. Had to add new feed lips to the mag to get it to feed but the bolt face and extractor work just fine with 30-30 as is. It's a fun little gun. It was a lamp when I bought it at a garage sale for 20$. The rifle had been bubbaed long ago then the chamber drilled to pass the cord. now it's a dedicated cast bullet gun and damn fast too.
Now that sounds like a cool gun. Lee Enfieds rock.

[Texas by God]

Now a High Wall would be cool too.
As would a Remington Rolling Block. ColSanders the 91 is much anticipated.

[Idaho Sharpshooter]

I have a Commercial 98 Mauser a gunsmith in the Boise area named W.F. Vickery built in the late 1930's or early 1940's. It is a variation of the 219 Donaldson Wasp. Vickery took 30-30 cases, turned the rims down to .473" and got them to feed. The rifle has DST's, and is a repeater. It came to me with an old Bausch & Lomb Balvar 6-24X external adjustment scope. Sadly, it came with a tong tool. I wish I knew how he formed the brass. It still shoots, Berger 55gr bullets group under an inch at 200, pushing 3600fps.

[gnoahhh]

I have a Commercial 98 Mauser a gunsmith in the Boise area named W.F. Vickery built in the late 1930's or early 1940's. It is a variation of the 219 Donaldson Wasp. Vickery took 30-30 cases, turned the rims down to .473" and got them to feed. The rifle has DST's, and is a repeater. It came to me with an old Bausch & Lomb Balvar 6-24X external adjustment scope. Sadly, it came with a tong tool. I wish I knew how he formed the brass. It still shoots, Berger 55gr bullets group under an inch at 200, pushing 3600fps.

In the same vein, could not the same thing be done by starting with .30 Remington brass? Dunno, just asking. At the same time, a .30 Remington in a bolt gun would be virtually the same thing as a .30-30, thus obviating the need to deal with a rimmed case.

The Winchester 54 bolt is virtually the same as an '06 bolt, the main thing they did to get them to feed from the magazine was to re-design the magazine on a slight slant in order to keep the rims stacked ahead of the ones below them.

[oldblinddog]

The .30 Remington would work perfectly. There is only one thing to deal with and that is that the rim diameter is 0.422", so the bolt face on the Mauser would need to be modified.

[rockrat]

MT. Gianni---- the 7.62 x 39 works fine with the 308 bolt face. Every now and then, I get a failure to extract on one type of ball ammo. I just use it as a single shot, not mag. fed.

[Texas by God]

rockrat- Sarco has a good deal going on Mauser 93 actions. Mapp55b got a few and they were Oviedos- mine is a good action and has a hinged floor plate ( great for mag loading booboos)

[tdoyka]

rockrat- Sarco has a good deal going on Mauser 93 actions. Mapp55b got a few and they were Oviedos- mine is a good action and has a hinged floor plate ( great for mag loading booboos)

i'm sorry to hijack your thread, but Texas by God , what's the c.u.p. on a mauser '93 action? i've been thinking on a 257 bob ai on a '98 mauser but a '93 will work too(depends on the c.u.p.).

[Texas by God]

i'm sorry to hijack your thread, but Texas by God , what's the c.u.p. on a mauser '93 action? i've been thinking on a 257 bob ai on a '98 mauser but a '93 will work too(depends on the c.u.p.).
The regular Bob is fine for the 93 action but if you're going to use the Ackley Imp I would use the 98 action. Play it safe because the AI version loaded correctly approaches 25-06 territory.
Best, Thomas.

[tdoyka]

mmmmmm, now i gotta think[smilie=l:[smilie=l:!` i can smell the smoke already:holysheep[smilie=l:

[Texas by God]

I would recommend talking to Mapp55B. He knows how to modify Mauser 93s for better gas handling.

[Texas by God]

The reason I made it work with the rimmed case was for the future owner to be able to use off the shelf ammo- rather than having to turn down rims. I stamped 30-30 Win on the barrel so my kids know that's what it is. The .30 Rem has been mentioned but the small diameter case won't work in any .473" size bolt action without major modifications.

[Texas by God]

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[oldblinddog]

That is a nice looking rifle!

[Texas by God]

That is a nice looking rifle!
Thanks! HPdrifter did the stock and said he'd want to slim it a bit more had he kept it. A friend who is a wood wizard is going to work on it and my Rem 700 soon. I need to fit the new cocking piece for the D/T trigger also.
To the OP- 30-30 bolt actions are doable and fun IMO!

[tdoyka]

:holysheep:shock::shock::shock:

that is a fine rifle!!!

[Texas by God]

When my buddy gets done it will look better with a better bedding job. I like the way the browning turned out. It certainly is a shooter; so everything else is gravy......

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