30-20 and 30x39

[Elmo]

I have a tc contender 30- 20 and a small ring Mauser in 30-39. Both have .308 barrels. Anyone have recommendations on molds for general use shooting, small game, plinking and some target shooting. I would love to use the same mold for both if possible. My casting experience is solely on .38, .44, and .45's plus lots of muzzleloader fodder.
Elmo

[Elmo]

Thinking maybe Lyman 311410. Plain base 130 grain.
Elmo

[Der Gebirgsjager]

I'm kind of stumped. What is a 30-39? Is that a 7.62x39mm? If so, a .311 should work in both, assuming the bores to be within specs.

[bruce drake]

a 30-39 is a .308x39mm Wildcat that I believe was designed in the 70/80s as a .30 American cartridge. Actual 30 caliber bore with bigger cartridge space than the 30 Carbine.

[Der Gebirgsjager]

Thanks. Never heard of that one before.

[dg31872]

I have a Blackhawk 30 carbine that I use 32-20 brass in, and I have good results with the 311008.

[Elmo]

I'm kind of stumped. What is a 30-39? Is that a 7.62x39mm? If so, a .311 should work in both, assuming the bores to be within specs.


The one that I have is a a 7.62X39 necked down to take a .308 bullet. Run a piece of 7.62 X 39 brass into the sizing die load and shoot.

[Elmo]

I have a Blackhawk 30 carbine that I use 32-20 brass in, and I have good results with the 311008.


Thanks, I like the flat nose and plain base on that one. It would be good pest medicine. I didn't see it when I looked in the Lyman catalog.
Elmo

[upnorthwis]

Out of the dozen or so .30 cal. molds I have, only one of them works in my .30-20 Contender. That's the LBT .309-115-FN. My load was 5.6 gr. WW231

[Sur-shot]

In my 30-20, I use H-4227, 205m primers with the RCBS crew, 150 FP, 165 FN and the 180 SP. The Contender is well documented to have a long throat. 1-10 twist and a .308 barrel, is normal. The 30-20 with a heavy bullet should seat out well in your TC. I have owned a 30-20 in a BF, an XL and a TC. I also shoot a 30-39, but in my custom AR-15 that I built, with a 1-10 twist .308 barrel. It works real well with the 150gr bullets, Fed 210 primers, and H-335, it will run 2,100 fps with ease and shoot 1 inch at 100. When you PC a hard cast bullet, they work fine in the AR gas system.
Ed

[Elmo]

Thanks for the load data Sur-shot. 30- 20 data is hard to come by. My 30-39 is a small ring Mauser that I bought off Shotgun news. My buddy glass bedded it and it shoots sub minute of angel at 100 yards, but only with Those light varmit bullets, 100 grains or so. I got disgusted with it and haven't shot it in years. I never even measured the twist. I am going to give it another try. Slug the barrel and check the twist. I am going to try cast bullets this time.
Elmo

[eck0313]

a 30-39 is a .308x39mm Wildcat that I believe was designed in the 70/80s as a .30 American cartridge. Actual 30 caliber bore with bigger cartridge space than the 30 Carbine.

The .30 American I am familiar with (and I have chamber drawings, and a reamer) is a rimmed cartridge that uses 30-30 brass.

[RoyEllis]

Thinking maybe Lyman 311410. Plain base 130 grain.
Elmo
Then you owe it to yourself to consider getting in on this group buy http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?331766-Re-Run-MiHec-311410-Brass-Cramer-HP-april-2017&p=405063
It's the boolit you want in a mold made to drop perfect ones (lyman can't say that about all theirs) with the option of flat point, shallow or deep hollowpoint.

[Texas by God]

The .30 American I am familiar with (and I have chamber drawings, and a reamer) is a rimmed cartridge that uses 30-30 brass.
This. And Federal made a run of small primer pocket 30-30 brass headstamped .30 American in the 80's.
A Ruger Mini 30 has a .308" barrel in 7.62x39. The 7.62x39 Numrich(Wilson) barrel I used for my SR Mauser 30-30 is .308" 1-10" twist and so far it is a treasure with cast and j-words.
Best, Thomas.

[Elmo]

Then you owe it to yourself to consider getting in on this group buy http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?331766-Re-Run-MiHec-311410-Brass-Cramer-HP-april-2017&p=405063
It's the boolit you want in a mold made to drop perfect ones (lyman can't say that about all theirs) with the option of flat point, shallow or deep hollowpoint.

That link takes me to a thread about which revolver to buy. I would like to know more about the group buy.
Elmo

[Cowboy_Dan]

Try this one

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?331766-Re-Run-MiHec-311410-Brass-Cramer-HP-april-2017

[Elmo]

Thanks that one is on the money. I appreciate the heads up. I am new here and don't know what all is going on. I have been shooting cast bullets for a long time but still got a lot to learn.
Elmo

[RoyEllis]

Wow! Copy & paste sure failed there for me....thanks Dan for the correction.
Elmo, if you want one of those ya might better jump on it, group buy will close & go to production @ 25 molds, there's 24 ordered right now.